Bills First Rnd pick in 2025 draft: Maxwell Hairston - CB - Kentucky

[Dillenger4]

2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Crap. That’s not good. Thanks for the clarification. 

also - watch the original video of him in this thread. You will see the players consoling him.

Edited Tuesday at 04:09 PM by Dillenger4

[billsfan89]

Just now, BarleyNY said:

 

 

I can’t see what Tre’s response was, but there were not multiple players around him with tears in their eyes. That’s a bit of a relief. 

 

I’ve been present for multiple ACL tears. After a complete tear there is usually no (or minimal) pain. Partial tears are usually painful. A person can easily walk with a fully torn ACL that’s the only part of the knee that is injured. 

 

The trainer did help Hairston off the field, but we do not know why. It could’ve just been precautionary.

 

We just have to wait and see. While I am not filled with hope at this point, I’m not devoid of it either. 

I didn’t see the additional walk off initially. I am 50/50 on the severity of the injury from my amateur opinion I don’t think they would have let him walk off even with assistance from the trainer if they had suspected a chance at a tear. 
 

I hope it’s a strain that he just misses a week or two. An injury where he misses all of pre season is gonna set back his development 

[MasterStrategist]

1 minute ago, Dillenger4 said:

also - watch the original video of him in this thread. You will see the players consoling him.

So you saw it "live"/in person at camp?  Just to be clear.  Or just videos?

 

I will say its very uncommon to have a player walk off with a torn ligament, if he suspected something serious.  And while walking, having him test stability, very strange he'd put any strain like that.

[Walking Tall]

Jeez. That doesn’t look good. I’ll hope for good news.

Edited Tuesday at 04:16 PM by Walking Tall

[ALLinALLEN]

 

me no likey

[BarleyNY]

10 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

I didn’t see the additional walk off initially. I am 50/50 on the severity of the injury from my amateur opinion I don’t think they would have let him walk off even with assistance from the trainer if they had suspected a chance at a tear. 
 

I hope it’s a strain that he just misses a week or two. An injury where he misses all of pre season is gonna set back his development 

 

Him walking off doesn’t mean anything, unfortunately. 

[billsfan89]

5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

 

Him walking off doesn’t mean anything, unfortunately. 

I know guys walk off with ACL but that’s usually in game situations and not practice. From what I am reading if the trainers suspect a tear even somewhat they will not let the player walk off even with some assistance. 
 

Yes it is possible the manual test came up wrong and they let the walk off. But I am hoping for the best as it is less likely they would let the player walk off if they suspected a tear

[Ralonzo]

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

5 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Ugh. Thigh doctor is always right.

[Process]

4 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

I wouldn't take that account seriously it's all clickbait. Always goes straight to worst case scenario. 

[Ralonzo]

5 minutes ago, Process said:

I wouldn't take that account seriously it's all clickbait. Always goes straight to worst case scenario. 

 

Speaking as someone without an ACL, my leg does that... :/

[MasterStrategist]

15 minutes ago, Process said:

I wouldn't take that account seriously it's all clickbait. Always goes straight to worst case scenario. 

Yeah hoping for minimal tearing/damage.  Could be a hyperextension, and some people (like myself), have natural laxity in my knee.

 

Im holding out hope

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

18 minutes ago, Process said:

I wouldn't take that account seriously it's all clickbait. Always goes straight to worst case scenario. 

I don’t know— this dude is usually right. 

[Walking Tall]

Next man up.

[GoBills808]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

 

 

I can’t see what Tre’s response was, but there were not multiple players around him with tears in their eyes. That’s a bit of a relief. 

 

I’ve been present for multiple ACL tears. After a complete tear there is usually no (or minimal) pain. Partial tears are usually painful. A person can easily walk with a fully torn ACL that’s the only part of the knee that is injured. 

 

The trainer did help Hairston off the field, but we do not know why. It could’ve just been precautionary.

 

We just have to wait and see. While I am not filled with hope at this point, I’m not devoid of it either. 

that has not been my experience having done both knees

 

yes you can easily walk w a torn ACL but to say there is no pain (or at least major discomfort) when the ruptured ligament is bleeding into the joint and filling it up w blood...it's not fun

[BarleyNY]

49 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

I know guys walk off with ACL but that’s usually in game situations and not practice. From what I am reading if the trainers suspect a tear even somewhat they will not let the player walk off even with some assistance. 
 

Yes it is possible the manual test came up wrong and they let the walk off. But I am hoping for the best as it is less likely they would let the player walk off if they suspected a tear

I don’t know what the Bills protocol is, but walking in a straight line would not pose any danger of making this kind of injury worse. It would make sense for an NFL team to be cautious, but that’s all it would be about. 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

It looks like the trainer has him test it while walking 

[GunnerBill]

 

13 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

I don’t know what the Bills protocol is, but walking in a straight line would not pose any danger of making this kind of injury worse. It would make sense for an NFL team to be cautious, but that’s all it would be about. 

 

This. If it is a suspected achillies rupture or something no way I'm helping the guy up and to walk off. But an ACL? Yea a slow straight line walk off is pretty normal in my experience and you are not gonna do more damage that way.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

We're dangerously close to seeing a whole lotta Dane Jackson this season

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

 

This. If it is a suspected achillies rupture or something no way I'm helping the guy up and to walk off. But an ACL? Yea a slow straight line walk off is pretty normal in my experience and you are not gonna do more damage that way.

you're not going to do any more damage to a ruptured achillies limping away either

 

level of assistance received departing the field of play is not a meaningful diagnosis