Einstein Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 13 minutes ago, transient said: You’re a self proclaimed Diggs fan; when has he EVER said something that was straightforward? In this 19s clip, what I hear is him saying, is that he doesn’t know about the money and all that… Right. That's exactly what many of us are responding to. His tendency to never give a straightforward positive answer. People aren't perfect. Diggs isn't either. You don't have to dig (no pun intended) so hard to defend him (but I admit its funnier and makes for better conversation when you do). Its much easier (and better) to give a short, positive answer than it is to give answers like "I dont know" and "I'll be ready wherever it goes" in response to someone asking if you will be with your team next year. 98% of NFL players are able to do this just fine. Josh Allen gets asked absolutely ridiculous questions all season and he answers them like a pro. At one point a reporter straight up told him "this offense doesnt look like its good enough to win a Super Bowl". Allen took it in stride and just responded "okay". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Diggs dropped a pass in dodge ball. Definitely a #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: Right. That's exactly what many of us are responding to. His tendency to never give a straightforward positive answer. People aren't perfect. Diggs isn't either. You don't have to dig (no pun intended) so hard to defend him (but I admit its funnier and makes for better conversation when you do). Its much easier (and better) to give a short, positive answer than it is to give answers like "I dont know" and "I'll be ready wherever it goes" in response to someone asking if you will be with your team next year. 98% of NFL players are able to do this just fine. Josh Allen gets asked absolutely ridiculous questions all season and he answers them like a pro. At one point a reporter straight up told him "this offense doesnt look like it’s good enough to win a Super Bowl". Allen took it in stride and just responded "okay". So, I feel like what I’m saying is less about defending Diggs, and more about pointing out the absolute uselessness of trying to interpret his intentions by micro dissecting what he says. In my opinion, it’s the way the dude is wired. It’s how he’s talked from the moment he got here. Expecting something different from him and highlighting every time it doesn’t happen is an exercise in futility. You, of anyone, should know, as the definition of insanity is often misappropriated to you, Einstein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) Speculation going around that Diggs recently reached out to a retired Texans WR about the city and organization & has built a relationship with Stroud If he doesn’t want to be here, send him out. Diggs + 3rd in 25 + 5th for HOU 23rd overall add more / higher rounds if needed I want two 1sts for 2 WR’s 56 minutes ago, KHAN said: I'll take "Things that don't matter" for $1000 Alex. The Bills and Diggs both know he's here next year, and nothing else is even an option. this is simply not true. The Bills can create 19 million in cap space this year if he’s traded and it’s designated post June 1st Edited February 4 by Warriorspikes51 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Speculation going around that Diggs recently reached out to a retired Texans WR about the city and organization & has built a relationship with Stroud If he doesn’t want to be here, send him out. Diggs + 3rd in 25 + 5th for HOU 23rd overall add more / higher rounds if needed I want two 1sts for 2 WR’s this is simply not true. The Bills can create 19 million in cap space this year if he’s traded and it’s designated post June 1st Just wondering, where did you see/hear/read this speculation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 15 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Here we go. It's bad enough the media likes to make something out of nothing every year. Do we really need to do it every year too? It's nothing. Same as last year. His contract isn't really tradable. Especially with how he played at the end of last year. Why would a team take that on if there's any concern he's falling off? As for what he said, I read it as nothing. I just took it as him looking at how things ended last season and the team being a mess roster wise and not taking for granted that he's safe. Reports are he's not unhappy or looking to move: https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/news-is-sean-mcdermott-hot-seat-insider-notes-bills-hc-s-future-stefon-diggs-speculation-seahawks-coaching-search?utm_source=www.sportskeeda.com&utm_medium=native&utm_campaign=ShareArticle It is very tradable. His cap hit for the receiving team is $18.5M this year with next to zero dead cap on the remaining contract. That number puts him between CeeDee Lamb and Justin Jefferson at number 15 among WR for 2024. If you’re a team with a lot of space and young QB it’s a slam dunk. If Diggs doesn’t work out you can move on with no cap implication. It costs the Bills an extra $3M to move on from Diggs. Im not saying they should, but if they feel they have to he is a very movable piece. As a post June 1 move he saves the team $19M this season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: Just wondering, where did you see/hear/read this speculation? it’s on “X” a Texans blogger with tens of thousands of followers said he knows for certain Diggs reached out to retired Houston receiver recently asking about city and team. Again, only speculation. I’d bet 50/50 he’s traded. My guess is Dallas or Houston if he doesn’t want to be here, we don’t want him. We went on a winning streak with him barely contributing. Whatever the factors were…. we have a great opportunity to go into next season with multiple young playmakers for Josh. Build chemistry and your offense stays elite for the next 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Diggs has delivered us a few gossip worthy moments. This one doesn’t move the needle for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 12 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: it’s on “X” a Texans blogger with tens of thousands of followers said he knows for certain Diggs reached out to retired Houston receiver recently asking about city and team. Again, only speculation. I’d bet 50/50 he’s traded. My guess is Dallas or Houston if he doesn’t want to be here, we don’t want him. We went on a winning streak with him barely contributing. Whatever the factors were…. we have a great opportunity to go into next season with multiple young playmakers for Josh. Build chemistry and your offense stays elite for the next 5 years It's odd that the blogger would say he knows for certain and then say it's only speculation. I feel like it got to be one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: It's odd that the blogger would say he knows for certain and then say it's only speculation. I feel like it got to be one or the other. Maybe he knows for certain that it’s only speculation… 🤷♂️😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, transient said: Maybe he knows for certain that it’s only speculation… 🤷♂️😂 I can't say for certain, because that would be speculative, but you may be right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, Einstein said: Right. That's exactly what many of us are responding to. His tendency to never give a straightforward positive answer. People aren't perfect. Diggs isn't either. You don't have to dig (no pun intended) so hard to defend him (but I admit its funnier and makes for better conversation when you do). Its much easier (and better) to give a short, positive answer than it is to give answers like "I dont know" and "I'll be ready wherever it goes" in response to someone asking if you will be with your team next year. 98% of NFL players are able to do this just fine. Josh Allen gets asked absolutely ridiculous questions all season and he answers them like a pro. At one point a reporter straight up told him "this offense doesnt look like it’s good enough to win a Super Bowl". Allen took it in stride and just responded "okay". “This offense doesn’t look good enough to win a Super Bowl” Allen - “okay” Diggs - “well, I’m trying out there. I know my production is down, but it’s not because of me. I don’t know what the future holds, ima keep doing me, and whatever happens, happens.” Bills fans - “why are Diggs comments a story???? It’s such a MYSTERY!!!!!” Edited February 4 by FireChans 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: that you’ve curated a hyper bills focused media bubble doesnt make this big news and that his sketchy answers and behavior are being acknowledged doesn’t mean they are creating a narrative out of thin air Out of thin air? No. There is plenty to talk about given his lack of usage in the last half of the season. What is being done is put his comments under a magnifying glass to add an air of excitement and speculation. For all Diggs knows is he could be traded, who knows? All he knows is his part and he will be ready. There is no better answer that would stop the speculation. Edit: and to also pretend that the media isnt writing constantly about Diggs (both national and local) and that I myself just "curated" this media because of my internet history is straight up dishonest lmao. Edited February 4 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 19 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: it’s on “X” a Texans blogger with tens of thousands of followers said he knows for certain Diggs reached out to retired Houston receiver recently asking about city and team. Again, only speculation. I’d bet 50/50 he’s traded. My guess is Dallas or Houston if he doesn’t want to be here, we don’t want him. We went on a winning streak with him barely contributing. Whatever the factors were…. we have a great opportunity to go into next season with multiple young playmakers for Josh. Build chemistry and your offense stays elite for the next 5 years I just watched an hour long video by Greg Tompsett going over a possible 10-15 moves that would result in the Bills being 30-40 million under the cap while obviously creating some holes that will need to be filled with that space. None of them involved the $31,096,000 in dead cap that trading Diggs will create. I'd just love to hear a detailed breakdown of how the Bills can do this and field a competitive team in 2024... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: I just watched an hour long video by Greg Tompsett going over a possible 10-15 moves that would result in the Bills being 30-40 million under the cap while obviously creating some holes that will need to be filled with that space. None of them involved the $31,096,000 in dead cap that trading Diggs will create. I'd just love to hear a detailed breakdown of how the Bills can do this and field a competitive team in 2024... I am assuming the below isn't true then? Honestly asking as I am not an expert on the cap. 49 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: this is simply not true. The Bills can create 19 million in cap space this year if he’s traded and it’s designated post June 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 It’s time. The $$$ vs the drama diva doesn’t add up. But I’d be surprised given his cap hit to the Bills and a potential trade partner if it’s feasible. Would have been great to see him man up about his poor year end and playoff performance. But he’s way above that on the never accountable scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 10 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: I just watched an hour long video by Greg Tompsett going over a possible 10-15 moves that would result in the Bills being 30-40 million under the cap while obviously creating some holes that will need to be filled with that space. None of them involved the $31,096,000 in dead cap that trading Diggs will create. I'd just love to hear a detailed breakdown of how the Bills can do this and field a competitive team in 2024... Diggs stays this year, price of signing a large extension. He agreed to it bow he is stuck this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: I am assuming the below isn't true then? Honestly asking as I am not an expert on the cap. It's true, at least per spotrac. A post 6/1 release or trade would save the Bills $19M in 2024, but would incur a 2025 dead cap number of 22M. If Diggs is on the team in 2025, his cap hit would be 27M. It's basically like a restructure, kicking the can down the road, and paying later. except with only minimal long-term savings and another hole at boundary WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 11 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: I am assuming the below isn't true then? Honestly asking as I am not an expert on the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 13 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: I just watched an hour long video by Greg Tompsett going over a possible 10-15 moves that would result in the Bills being 30-40 million under the cap while obviously creating some holes that will need to be filled with that space. None of them involved the $31,096,000 in dead cap that trading Diggs will create. I'd just love to hear a detailed breakdown of how the Bills can do this and field a competitive team in 2024... Just FYI, Greg Tompsett has absolutely no idea what he is talking about half the time. I ran the math 2 months ago and determined the Bills would be -$50M over the cap (before any moves). I pointed out to Greg that his numbers were vastly wrong (he was at -$26M). He argued with me for quite a while, stating OTC was always right, you're an idiot, yada yada. Guess what happened? Last week OTC updated their projects to.... I didnt even notice at first, but another tweeter who saw the argument bumped my tweet that was correcting him a couple months ago and pointed out that I was right. Greg must have saw that he screwed up so he blocked me lol. Long story short - take what Greg says with a GIGANTIC grain of salt. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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