Donuts and Doritos Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 They talk at the end about him being mocked to Buffalo. Steve Smith says he won't be there, he's going in the "teens" & that we'd have to move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 4/5/2024 at 10:24 AM, Solomon Grundy said: Fitzgerald ran a 4.63 What are you suggesting? Do you think they should draft Coleman? If they are taking just 1 WR early, I would be disappointed if it is him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andy1 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Just give me Legette at spot 28 and I’ll be happy. He is a physical athletic freak but a late bloomer at his position. Similar to Josh in that way. He reminds me a lot of Eric Moulds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 23 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: What are you suggesting? Do you think they should draft Coleman? If they are taking just 1 WR early, I would be disappointed if it is him. Larry Fitz was an animal in college in the early 2000’s not the modern passing game. As a redshirt freshman had 1000 yards and 12 tds and followed that up with 1600 yards and 22 Tds. When has Coleman ever done that? Tape, production than athletic profile. His athletic profile doesn't disqualify him but it validates by he wasn't consistent or dominant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) Based on all the metrics, if we stay at 28, and are drafting a WR, Ladd McConkey has to be the pick… He was not my first choice, but I have to trust the numbers…👍 Edited April 6 by JaCrispy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I cant get behind it with his injury history and lack of production in round 1. His negative is frame and by missing games emphasizes it imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 hour ago, Donuts and Doritos said: They talk at the end about him being mocked to Buffalo. Steve Smith says he won't be there, he's going in the "teens" & that we'd have to move up. I don’t think many people, if any, think that Thomas will be there @ 28. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 10 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Based on all the metrics, if we stay at 28, and are drafting a WR, Ladd McConkey has to be the pick… He was not my first choice, but I have to trust the numbers…👍 I agree 100%. I don’t think Beane wants to give up 2 1st, 2 2nds and some late picks to move up to 5/6/7. I do think he would be willing to give up a 2nd + to move up to the late teens to grab Thomas II if (1) Thomas last to then and (2) they have Thomas as their #4 wr, a lot of people do not. I would take Ladd at 28 if he’s there (not a given as I could see KC trading ahead of us to grab him) then I would trade 60 and a future 2nd to move up to the low/mid 40s and grab Legette/frankli/worthy/polk/coleman, etc - whomevers left then and they like best. adding Ladd +, say Legette would be awesome. I think the bills like both of them a lot. They’ve met with both a couple of times and Josh mentioned him prominently in a recent interview saying he’s got the best southern accent he’s ever heard. we may also just stay at 60 and grab whomever falls to there, but they do have 10 picks and 10 draft picks arent making this team. my dream senario; #28, 2025 2nd, 2024 4th, 2024 5th for pick 27 or so and take Thomas Ii #60 and other 2025 2nd for #40 and take Ladd who’s has fallen to 40 thomas and Ladd added to our wr corp and we’d still have a total of 8 2024 picks and picks in every round in 2025 except the 2nd. We will get 2 or so comp picks though in 2025 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: I don’t think many people, if any, think that Thomas will be there @ 28. I’ve seen him mocked as early as 12 and lasting until 28. A lot of people have him as the #4 but a lot of people don’t. I’d love to see how the Bills rank the wr. My guess is they may have legette at #4 and may take him at #28. The kid is a one year wonder (no fault of his own) but oozes character. His story is heart wrenching. He and buffalo written all over him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Based on all the metrics, if we stay at 28, and are drafting a WR, Ladd McConkey has to be the pick… He was not my first choice, but I have to trust the numbers…👍 which metrics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) Food for thought! I wonder if we could get 2 of the top 3 somehow. Edited April 6 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, LEBills said: which metrics? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/12pCgsJPa9X-jjNMOZ_exJTAEfxmZOeETzEm8SNkuXec/htmlview Separation and catch % stand out most…And that’s exactly what Josh needs…👍 Edited April 6 by JaCrispy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 16 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Food for thought! I wonder if we could get 2 of the top 3 somehow. What stands out to me there is Legette…doing that in the SEC, being his teams’ really only weapon and playing with Rattler. Apparently he played poorly when Tennesse played man on him and locked him up. But that stat stands out to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 25 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/12pCgsJPa9X-jjNMOZ_exJTAEfxmZOeETzEm8SNkuXec/htmlview Separation and catch % stand out most…And that’s exactly what Josh needs…👍 Gotcha, I have McConkey as my WR5 a few pages back in this thread. Wasn’t sure if you were seeing data I hadn’t already. I like to take in as much of that stuff pre draft as I can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Food for thought! I wonder if we could get 2 of the top 3 somehow. It might be possible to get 1 of Nabers/Odunze/BTJ and keep pick 60 for Legette/Franklin. Legette would probably require a move up again into the top 45 I imagine but we could absolutely move into the teens say 16 with 28, 128 & 2025 2nd then you could move from 60 to get Legette by parting with our other 2025 2nd so you come away with 16. Brian Thomas Jr. 40. Xavier Legette Still have a 4th, other late picks. Kept our 1st next year would certainly be a fun combo. Legette is a physical, very fast beast and plays taller than 6’1. as seen above, can be elite against man and has insane breakaway speed in open field Thomas is 6’3 with one of the biggest wingspans in the draft, a true deep threat with 4.3 speed and the 2nd lowest drop rate among top WR’s. 17 TD’s. 2nd highest contested catch rate among the top 3 rounds of WR’s gives our WR room a serious speed and size uprade. Both of which are needed badly & a bonus, from interviews they seem to be fairly humble guys Edited April 6 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 5 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said: They talk at the end about him being mocked to Buffalo. Steve Smith says he won't be there, he's going in the "teens" & that we'd have to move up. Man Thomas is perfect for this team. Hopefully he drops since he is a quiet guy like Smith says. He’s a perfect fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Man Thomas is perfect for this team. Hopefully he drops since he is a quiet guy like Smith says. He’s a perfect fit. he’s worth the move up. Anywhere from 13-19 is likely where he ends up going probably cost a 4th and a 2nd next year. Then we can still go after Legette by moving up in Round 2 if he makes it maybe we end up with a guy like McConkey and I’ll end up liking it later on…but IMO this team needs size and speed Edited April 6 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 11 hours ago, Mat68 said: Larry Fitz was an animal in college in the early 2000’s not the modern passing game. As a redshirt freshman had 1000 yards and 12 tds and followed that up with 1600 yards and 22 Tds. When has Coleman ever done that? Tape, production than athletic profile. His athletic profile doesn't disqualify him but it validates by he wasn't consistent or dominant. Coleman's offense wasn't pass happy with Norvell. If Keon ran a 4.5 40, people would be clamoring for him. The dude is a baller and would be a great asset to Josh as a chain mover and in the red zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 12 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said: What are you suggesting? Do you think they should draft Coleman? If they are taking just 1 WR early, I would be disappointed if it is him. Yes I do. He's the type of WR the Bills been looking for for some time. A big bodied RAC receiver. An open when not open type of WR. His tape don't lie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 10 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Food for thought! I wonder if we could get 2 of the top 3 somehow. Sadly, likely only in Madden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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