Bills!Win! Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) This has been on my mind ever since Sunday night and I just have to get it out there. The list of great QBs who never won a Super Bowl. I define “Great” as having consistent success, excelling at the position and not a player who had an up and down career. Jim Kelly Josh Allen Joe Burrow Philip Rivers Tony Romo Dan Marino Donovan McNabb Steve McNair Frank Tarkenton Randall Cunningham Warren Moon Great QBs who only won one superbowl (shows how hard it is) Kurt Warner Steve Young Brett Favre Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees Matt Stafford (Namath, Dawson, Unitas, Stabler, Simms, Doug Williams) - I never really watched film on these guys to see if they were good/great but I can only assume they were. Shows my age QBs who won multiple Superbowls Peyton Manning Patrick Mahomes Troy Aikman Joe Montana Eli Manning Bart Starr Bob Griese Terry Bradshaw Ben Roethlisberger Tom Brady Roger Staubach Which category will Allen fall in? I’ve come to the realization that Allen will not win multiple Superbowls and it won’t be because of Josh Allen but because of the team he plays for. We will never be a dynasty. I say he wins one in 2-3 years from now and that’s it. Edited January 24 by Bills!Win! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I would be thrilled if Allen only wins one Super Bowl for the Buffalo Bills. Obviously, everyone would want them to win more but just to experience winning it once would be fantastic. It won't happen with McDermott. I wish Terry would grow a pair and make the move to Belichick, Harbaugh, or even Vrabel but he won't. I will throw this out there. Tomlin is going into his last year as Steelers coach next year. If he moves on from the Steelers and the Bills fail again in the playoffs (they will) with McDermott. Then if the opportunity is there then bring Mike here. He will build a tough team and a strong defense. Even though he only has one Super Bowl win it is still one more than McDermott. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Heck I just want my team to even get there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Romo, Allen, Burrow, McNair, and Cunningham were not great QB's. Rivers was not great, either, but threw a ton. 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 It's an absolute crime of sports that Josh has not been in a Super Bowl yet. The other night was maddening. You can't lose back to back Divisional games at home. ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, zow2 said: It's an absolute crime of sports that Josh has not been in a Super Bowl yet. The other night was maddening. You can't lose back to back Divisional games at home. ugh. If the Ravens win it all then we get to hear all of the media "experts" say how LJ is a much better QB than Allen. That will happen if he becomes a Super Bowl champion. Mahomes has won. Jackson has a very good chance to win it. Burrow has been in a Super Bowl. We can wear our 4-time AFCE championship tee shirts with pride. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 12 minutes ago, zow2 said: It's an absolute crime of sports that Josh has not been in a Super Bowl yet. The other night was maddening. You can't lose back to back Divisional games at home. ugh. Correction: apparently you CAN lose back to back divisional games at home, because we just did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 9 minutes ago, Gregg said: If the Ravens win it all then we get to hear all of the media "experts" say how LJ is a much better QB than Allen. That will happen if he becomes a Super Bowl champion. Mahomes has won. Jackson has a very good chance to win it. Burrow has been in a Super Bowl. We can wear our 4-time AFCE championship tee shirts with pride. Yeah, and with Two MVP's in the bag and an AFC Championship game, Lamar is already being fitted for his gold jacket. Everything else he does personally is gravy. They were actually angry on ESPN Get UP this morning that the Bills lost to KC the other day. They are still breaking it down and are perplexed. Even they want and expected the Bills to get over the hump. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I actually consider Kelly to be a Super Bowl winning QB. he did exactly what Brady did to win his first Super Bowl. Guided his team to a game winning FG in the last minute of the game. Not his fault that the kicker failed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Go down the list of those great QB teams and you’ll find flaws — either OL, DL, WRs, secondary, RBs, etc. Our biggest flaws that are holding us back are DE and WR. Get these addressed and we have a chance. Oh, and get lucky with injuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 i'll raise my stake. Kelly was not a great QB. his selfishness in at least 2 super bowls cost us victories. if he would have just handed the ball off more in the first two we likely win those games controlling the ball and clock. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 16 minutes ago, zow2 said: Yeah, and with Two MVP's in the bag and an AFC Championship game, Lamar is already being fitted for his gold jacket. Everything else he does personally is gravy. They were actually angry on ESPN Get UP this morning that the Bills lost to KC the other day. They are still breaking it down and are perplexed. Even they want and expected the Bills to get over the hump. There is only one person who can fix this and that is Terry Pegula. Given the season ending press conferences yesterday it seems like we are stuck with McDermott for at least one more year. In a year when Belichick, Harbaugh, and even Vrabel are all available to get. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: This has been on my mind ever since Sunday night and I just have to get it out there. The list of great QBs who never won a Super Bowl. I define “Great” as having consistent success, excelling at the position and not a player who had an up and down career. Jim Kelly Josh Allen Joe Burrow Philip Rivers Tony Romo Dan Marino Donovan McNabb Steve McNair Frank Tarkenton Randall Cunningham Warren Moon Great QBs who only won one superbowl (shows how hard it is) Kurt Warner Steve Young Brett Favre Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees Matt Stafford (Namath, Dawson, Unitas, Stabler, Simms, Doug Williams) - I never really watched film on these guys to see if they were good/great but I can only assume they were. Shows my age QBs who won multiple Superbowls Peyton Manning Patrick Mahomes Troy Aikman Joe Montana Eli Manning Bart Starr Bob Griese Terry Bradshaw Ben Roethlisberger Tom Brady Roger Staubach Which category will Allen fall in? I’ve come to the realization that Allen will not win multiple Superbowls and it won’t be because of Josh Allen but because of the team he plays for. We will never be a dynasty. I say he wins one in 2-3 years from now and that’s it. Things absolutely suck right now, but I really do still believe Allen gets multiple Super Bowls. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: This has been on my mind ever since Sunday night and I just have to get it out there. The list of great QBs who never won a Super Bowl. I define “Great” as having consistent success, excelling at the position and not a player who had an up and down career. Jim Kelly Josh Allen Joe Burrow Philip Rivers Tony Romo Dan Marino Donovan McNabb Steve McNair Frank Tarkenton Randall Cunningham Warren Moon Great QBs who only won one superbowl (shows how hard it is) Kurt Warner Steve Young Brett Favre Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees Matt Stafford (Namath, Dawson, Unitas, Stabler, Simms, Doug Williams) - I never really watched film on these guys to see if they were good/great but I can only assume they were. Shows my age QBs who won multiple Superbowls Peyton Manning Patrick Mahomes Troy Aikman Joe Montana Eli Manning Bart Starr Bob Griese Terry Bradshaw Ben Roethlisberger Tom Brady Roger Staubach Which category will Allen fall in? I’ve come to the realization that Allen will not win multiple Superbowls and it won’t be because of Josh Allen but because of the team he plays for. We will never be a dynasty. I say he wins one in 2-3 years from now and that’s it. I used to think we'd win multiple. Now I really just hope we can at least get 1. It's not going to happen until a coaching change, if one happens. 6 hours ago, boyst said: i'll raise my stake. Kelly was not a great QB. his selfishness in at least 2 super bowls cost us victories. if he would have just handed the ball off more in the first two we likely win those games controlling the ball and clock. Marv coached them really tight in the SB's too if we're being honest. They should have been more aggressive on the last drive vs the Giants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Lots of great QB's have never won the SB for various reasons. Partly because it's a matter of luck and is a team sport. It's not the end of the world. I think the Bills mafia could get to a healthier place mentally if they stopped focusing on Super Bowls. Focus on being the best team you can be, and not on long-term goals and other teams. Also, where is Dan Fouts on that list? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 8 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: This has been on my mind ever since Sunday night and I just have to get it out there. The list of great QBs who never won a Super Bowl. I define “Great” as having consistent success, excelling at the position and not a player who had an up and down career. Jim Kelly Josh Allen Joe Burrow Philip Rivers Tony Romo Dan Marino Donovan McNabb Steve McNair Frank Tarkenton Randall Cunningham Warren Moon Great QBs who only won one superbowl (shows how hard it is) Kurt Warner Steve Young Brett Favre Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees Matt Stafford (Namath, Dawson, Unitas, Stabler, Simms, Doug Williams) - I never really watched film on these guys to see if they were good/great but I can only assume they were. Shows my age QBs who won multiple Superbowls Peyton Manning Patrick Mahomes Troy Aikman Joe Montana Eli Manning Bart Starr Bob Griese Terry Bradshaw Ben Roethlisberger Tom Brady Roger Staubach Which category will Allen fall in? I’ve come to the realization that Allen will not win multiple Superbowls and it won’t be because of Josh Allen but because of the team he plays for. We will never be a dynasty. I say he wins one in 2-3 years from now and that’s it. Always have had a hard time calling Kurt Warner a great QB. He had a 12 year career, out of them 6 good years, but of those 6, only 3 the team did well. Other years he barely played half the games, not sure if it was due to injury or benched? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 8 hours ago, boyst said: Romo, Allen, Burrow, McNair, and Cunningham were not great QB's. Rivers was not great, either, but threw a ton. Great compared to the 1000ish starting QBs who ever played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 hours ago, pennstate10 said: I actually consider Kelly to be a Super Bowl winning QB. he did exactly what Brady did to win his first Super Bowl. Guided his team to a game winning FG in the last minute of the game. Not his fault that the kicker failed. I like Kelly but that's kind've silly. Wasn't the knock on Kelly he didn't do enough on that last drive to get the Bills closer to Norwood's ideal yard range? 47 yards was no chip shot back in 1991 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Honestly, I'm in the "one before I die" crowd. I'm sure when we win one, I'll want more - but just one will bury all of the demons. Then, it will just be about enjoyment. I'm sure of that. I think Allen gets one in the next few years, and who knows - maybe another when he's in his 30's. And that's fantastic. Brady changed a lot of perspectives on this. All of a sudden, unless you have a dynasty or get a bunch of titles, it's insufficient. But for this fan, 1 is just fine. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 hours ago, pennstate10 said: I actually consider Kelly to be a Super Bowl winning QB. he did exactly what Brady did to win his first Super Bowl. Guided his team to a game winning FG in the last minute of the game. Not his fault that the kicker failed. Well, ok, if that's the case, then Buffalo won the SB in 2021. It's not Josh's fault 13-sconds occurred. If we had beaten KC, then most agree Buffalo would have beaten Cincy and then the Rams. See how that works? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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