M. Wrotto Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I am pretty sure this was discussed quite a while ago, but I can’t find anything on it. With Hyde and possibly Poyer gone, what’s the possibility of transitioning Elam to Safety? I am in favor of it honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCNC Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Very small possibility imo. Does not seem to have those skills. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwell358 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 More likely bentford. Problem is we don’t know how good or bad Elam will be at corner and we may need 47 at CB. Plus he was pretty good there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 White would be more likely, imo. But they'll probably draft someone high, and pick up a FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Doubtful that neither white nor Elam will be converted to safety. Neither are strong tacklers which is what is required from that position. 1 minute ago, Success said: White would be more likely, imo. But they'll probably draft someone high, and pick up a FA. High as in round 3? No way it should be higher than that. McD took 2 late round corners and made them pro bowl safeties. We have other needs that need addressed by early picks. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 11 minutes ago, M. Wrotto said: I am pretty sure this was discussed quite a while ago, but I can’t find anything on it. With Hyde and possibly Poyer gone, what’s the possibility of transitioning Elam to Safety? I am in favor of it honestly. Elam would be experimental, Benford would be an elite safety. All depends on Tre White and his recovery/willingness to take a pay cut. If White isn’t on the active roster, Douglas and Benford will be the starting CBs. I am super interested to see Elam get some reps at FS this summer, though. Edited January 24 by TheyCallMeAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Doubtful that neither white nor Elam will be converted to safety. Neither are strong tacklers which is what is required from that position. High as in round 3? No way it should be higher than that. McD took 2 late round corners and made them pro bowl safeties. We have other needs that need addressed by early picks. I was thinking 3rd round. Safety would be an unusual round 1 pick. But I wouldn't want to wait too long. We'll need an immediate impact player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Success said: I was thinking 3rd round. Safety would be an unusual round 1 pick. But I wouldn't want to wait too long. We'll need an immediate impact player. I’m not sure about that. They got both poyer and Hyde in one FA period. They were both corners with position flexibility that allowed the bills to convert them to safety. I’d bet anything they are seeing who will be available on the FA market in a similar scenario where they could get them cheap and convert them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I don’t understand the fascination this board has with moving a guy who a) is strictly a man to man cb and b)who struggled to even see the field in a zone defense. It’s an awful decision. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 13 minutes ago, M. Wrotto said: I am pretty sure this was discussed quite a while ago, but I can’t find anything on it. With Hyde and possibly Poyer gone, what’s the possibility of transitioning Elam to Safety? I am in favor of it honestly. you mean the guy that’s struggling to get time at corner because his coach thinks he lacks zone skills and physicality in the run game? Doesn’t scream safety to me 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 @GunnerBill went into some detail on this in another thread. Elam’s skills do not translate well to the position of safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, Bagwell358 said: More likely bentford. Problem is we don’t know how good or bad Elam will be at corner and we may need 47 at CB. Plus he was pretty good there Benford has become a very good CB. Don't see him moving anywhere. Probably a FA, along with Rapp. Poyer probably gone too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, ALLinALLEN said: I don’t understand the fascination this board has with moving a guy who a) is strictly a man to man cb and b)who struggled to even see the field in a zone defense. It’s an awful decision. I’m no football fundamental expert, but I would think the techniques are different. Elam could transition to safety rather nicely. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Would rather just draft one and sign another. Kyle Dugger on this defense would be insane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, klos63 said: Benford has become a very good CB. Don't see him moving anywhere. Probably a FA, along with Rapp. Poyer probably gone too. If White is still on the roster, Benford is depth. He is a phenomenal tackler with ball skills (talking Benford). 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Would rather just draft one and sign another. Kyle Dugger on this defense would be insane. Give me a healthy Tre White as CB2, Benford at FS, Duggers at SS. Elam and Jackson the primary backups at CB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: If White is still on the roster, Benford is depth. He is a phenomenal tackler with ball skills (talking Benford). Big question mark with White. Need to be 100% ready in training camp, or likely a cap casualty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said: I don’t understand the fascination this board has with moving a guy who a) is strictly a man to man cb and b)who struggled to even see the field in a zone defense. It’s an awful decision. They are trying to make something out of nothing. For I guy to make the transition ideally you want a slightly bigger corner who can cover range is smart in zones and a sure tackler. And by cover range not necessarily fast but the being smart with zone and taking angles more so. Lockdown man corners don't typically need to close on a guy from 20 yards away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said: I don’t understand the fascination this board has with moving a guy who a) is strictly a man to man cb and b)who struggled to even see the field in a zone defense. It’s an awful decision. they see a savvy vet lose a step and suddenly anyone that can’t play outside can slide back to safety 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 The solution is Brandon Jones(that guy in the #29 you saw all over the field in the regular season finale), because it doesn't break the bank and also screws the Dolphins. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazinBill Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 As a safety and the last line of defense by nature- tackling should be a strong suit and not getting trucked over is probably desirable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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