klos63 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Thrivefourfive said: Exactly. Plus, Pierce has no head coaching experience. This is beyond risky for the Raiders. I think people get blinded by the success during the interim. That’s no indicator for future success as the head guy beginning day 1. All I’m really saying is that it’s beyond risky, and there are other less riskier moves that could’ve been made. I’d have to think that the Raiders job is very prestigious to NFL men. In Vegas.. come on. This is a dream job. He has head coaching experience, just this past season. That's more experience than many new hires over the years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 5 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Herbert is the equalizer. We shall see 😊 Is he tho? He kinda looks like the West Coast Baker Mayfield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 It’s kind of nice to see an interim coach earn themselves the job for once 6 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I dont have the time or enrgery to look it up. But has there ever been an interim guy that then gets the full time job and done really well? I'm struggling to recall anyone that actually did well when they first got the job as an interim Note. This is NFL I'm talking. The Michigan basketball coach Steve Fisher that won a NCAA championship as and interim that took over for the Fab 5 may be the greatest interim to HC story in sports history. I feel like an interim keeps the job so infrequently that the sample size is too small to comment on either way. I think marrone was one technically but they probably always planned for him to get a shot at hc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 They need a QB. To get 4 wins with a dreadful QB most games is pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 (edited) 5 hours ago, klos63 said: He has head coaching experience, just this past season. That's more experience than many new hires over the years. Was he a coordinator? I don’t know. I’d say being a coordinator from day 1 has more to do with being a head coach than being an interim head coach. I just believe that for an interim, they haven’t created anything—they’re just taking over for an already established thing. Love it. Wonder why the Falcons aren’t deciding Antonio Pierce or Bill Belichick? Anyone here believe that Pierce is a better choice than Bill Belichick for the Raiders? Or for any team? I’d love to hear it. Edited January 21 by Thrivefourfive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Happy for Pierce. It's also weird to be old enough now to have watched guys play and then go on to become HCs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 34 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said: Was he a coordinator? I don’t know. I’d say being a coordinator from day 1 has more to do with being a head coach than being an interim head coach. I just believe that for an interim, they haven’t created anything—they’re just taking over for an already established thing. Love it. Wonder why the Falcons aren’t deciding Antonio Pierce or Bill Belichick? Anyone here believe that Pierce is a better choice than Bill Belichick for the Raiders? Or for any team? I’d love to hear it. What are you talking about? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, DCofNC said: Is he tho? He kinda looks like the West Coast Baker Mayfield. You may be right…the tools are there but Herbert still has a lot of upside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 8 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: You may be right…the tools are there but Herbert still has a lot of upside I see the same guy I saw at Oregon, talented, but no “it” factor. Maybe it’s the terrible coaching, but maybe it’s just the same guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 15 hours ago, GunnerBill said: The only other one I have is Marrone in Jax. Took them to an AFCCG but it was a lightening in a bottle season and they disintegrated quickly after. The one that always stood out as "shoulda" to me is Dan Campbell in Miami. Went 5-7 but his team competed their asses off every week and they passed him over to hire Adam Gase. Major mistake and I was saying it even then. Where is Adam Gase now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, DCofNC said: I see the same guy I saw at Oregon, talented, but no “it” factor. Maybe it’s the terrible coaching, but maybe it’s just the same guy. It is hard to tell but ive seen him play really well at times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I think Bill is insisting on being GM.. and that is costing him HC opportunities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I think hiring head coaches has so much weirdness and luck involved, I’m not going to be too critical unless a team hires a known bad coach (like Josh McDaniels). This guy had the benefit of the locker room being bought in and overachieving, so that is something. Really doesn’t matter who the HC is if they don’t get a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, DCofNC said: I see the same guy I saw at Oregon, talented, but no “it” factor. Maybe it’s the terrible coaching, but maybe it’s just the same guy. Watching him at Oregon, I also felt that something was missing. Maybe he was just overhyped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I think the question here is whether the players response was tied to the fact that he had the interim title. As we saw with the Chargers, even bad teams tend to play hard when their head coach gets fired and an interim takes over. Now that he's the full time head coach, will Pierce be able to maintain this? I honestly don't know. I do know the Raiders threw a ton of money at Josh McDaniels and so it did seem unlikely that they'd make another run at a Belichick or Harbaugh-type coach that would demand a lot of cash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/20/2024 at 5:02 PM, GunnerBill said: I think the chance to coach Herbert is no doubt tempting. But it is one of the worst ownership situations in the league. They don't like spending money and they interfere. Worst of both worlds. And Harbaugh is incapable of biting his tongue I think this has been settled my friend 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: I think this has been settled my friend 😊 Let's see how long it lasts. I give it 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Let's see how long it lasts. I give it 3 years. Moving the goal posts, huh? 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 13 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Moving the goal posts, huh? 😂😂😂 I never said he wouldn't go there. I said I thought it was a bad spot for him. I still do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I never said he wouldn't go there. I said I thought it was a bad spot for him. I still do. Triplin’ down now lol. Im just messin 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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