PBF81 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea my edit does make the point I think his recent playoff record is a fair knock. But it is a fair knock on an otherwise excellent resume. Presumably you would agree that there's zero excuse, given the field, of not at minimum making the AFC CG, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: Presumably you would agree that there's zero excuse, given the field, of not at minimum making the AFC CG, right? No because that isn't the way the NFL works. There is a lot of parity and it is a matchup league. You can't just look down a sheet of paper and give players a rating. It isn't Madden. That said, if the Bills win tonight there is definitely a route that opens up for them to make it, hosting 2 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, PBF81 said: The problem is that the worst ones are in the playoffs to end out hopes. Let's see what happens this season yet. Who knows, we may win it all and then we're all whistling past the graveyard in a manner of speaking. You sound like one of those “ we won the Super Bowl, but…” types. Win or lose, you’re going to whine. Probably spit on the grave too. Have fun watching tonight’s game, I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No because that isn't the way the NFL works. There is a lot of parity and it is a matchup league. You can't just look down a sheet of paper and give players a rating. It isn't Madden. That said, if the Bills win tonight there is definitely a route that opens up for them to make it, hosting 2 games. So you don't think then, by implication, that we're better than the Steelers, Texans, Browns, Fins, and Chiefs ... this season? Well, OK. Otherwise, using that as an excuse every season, well, that's a huge part of the problem that we're having in these discussions between the two sides. 4 minutes ago, Dopey said: You sound like one of those “ we won the Super Bowl, but…” types. Win or lose, you’re going to whine. Probably spit on the grave too. Have fun watching tonight’s game, I guess. LOL You don't know me, you couldn't be more wrong. You sound like the type that runs on emotions and fuels your arguments that way. You a woman? Asking for a friend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, PBF81 said: So you don't think then, by implication, that we're better than the Steelers, Texans, Browns, Fins, and Chiefs ... this season? Well, OK. Otherwise, using that as an excuse every season, well, that's a huge part of the problem that we're having in these discussions between the two sides. No I don't think the NFL is that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 18 minutes ago, PBF81 said: OK, so Allen better than Lamar. Cook better and more versatile than Edwards who has very limited utility as a receiver and is more power back than speedster with agility like Cook. As to the WRs, let's stick to the group as a whole. Which is better, ... Flowers, OBJ, Andrews, Likely, and Agholor ... or .... Diggs, Davis, Kincaid, Knox, and Shakir? Don't leave Diggs and Kincaid out of the discussion and try to pass it off as if Baltimore has better WRs. Which team has the better top five WRs/TEs? You say that Likely is a vet, he's in his second season as a late 4th round draft pick. Hardly a seasoned vet. Agholor in 9 seasons has averaged about 500 yards and 4 TDs. Hardly much more than a JAG. Flowers is a rookie. Is there a reason why their WRs/TEs are more consistent and why their offense averages 1.5 PPG more than we do when their leading RB and leading WR don't even approach the production of ours? Thank you for a decent answer. We'll never know, but I'm curious what John Harbaugh would do with Allen as his QB over Jackson. It's time! GO BILLS!!!! Shakir doesn’t average 500 yards so maybe he’s less than a JAG. Maybe part of the reason their offense is more consistent is because their QB doesn’t throw passes to Eli Apple’s chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, PBF81 said: So you don't think then, by implication, that we're better than the Steelers, Texans, Browns, Fins, and Chiefs ... this season? Well, OK. Otherwise, using that as an excuse every season, well, that's a huge part of the problem that we're having in these discussions between the two sides. LOL You don't know me, you couldn't be more wrong. You sound like the type that runs on emotions and fuels your arguments that way. You a woman? Asking for a friend. That’s enough for me to know what you are. You have a friend? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, FireChans said: Shakir doesn’t average 500 yards so maybe he’s less than a JAG. Maybe part of the reason their offense is more consistent is because their QB doesn’t throw passes to Eli Apple’s chest. He also hasn't been in the league for 9 seasons. If you want to use that comp at least be honest and cite Agholor's first two seasons where he averaged just over 300 yards. That's part of the problem here, you and others can't be honest with your arguments. It makes it impossible to have an honest discussion. No sense in trying further. Enjoy the game! 10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No I don't think the NFL is that simple. Of course not, otherwise you'd have to do a little bit more thinking on your postion re: McD. I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: He also hasn't been in the league for 9 seasons. If you want to use that comp at least be honest and cite Agholor's first two seasons where he averaged just over 300 yards. That's part of the problem here, you and others can't be honest with your arguments. It makes it impossible to have an honest discussion. No sense in trying further. Enjoy the game! Of course not, otherwise you'd have to do a little bit more thinking on your postion re: McD. I understand. But Agoholor isn’t in his first two seasons. So why would I include what he was 8 years ago, in a discussion about him today? Project harder about honest arguments lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: But Agoholor isn’t in his first two seasons. So why would I include what he was 8 years ago, in a discussion about him today? Project harder about honest arguments lmao Enjoy the game Chans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Clock management 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 McDermott certainly isn’t the issue tonight and I’ve been one to be critical of him. Look no further than #17 for tonights issues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Hutz Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 That guy that wrote the article about McDermott was right about him always looking to shift blame. He did it with Allen during his halftime interview. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 How this team closes out this game indicts McDermott. I will refuse to see what I want to see and believe the facts. This isn't much different than the Bengals game last year. Chips are down, we can't sustain momentum, we have made mistakes, we have let opportunities slip away, our fundamentals are struggling. We need a good HC and staff to pull this win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, Lionel Hutz said: That guy that wrote the article about McDermott was right about him always looking to shift blame. He did it with Allen during his halftime interview. Oh yeah, McDermott threw all those ill advised passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradumbass Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 All we knew was failure before he arrived and all we've know since is success I don't get the McD questioning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 This game isn’t on the coaches. The only thing McD isn’t doing is getting in Josh’s face between plays. Dude needs to be held accountable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I want to change my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 21 minutes ago, boater said: Oh yeah, McDermott threw all those ill advised passes. We could have gotten 3 out of one of them...4th and 2 when the scores 0-0. Take the points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 48 minutes ago, FireChans said: I want to change my vote. to COTY! 14 points. 1 first down in the second half. Multiple injuries, including today. LETS GO SEAN. THIS IS JUST LIKE (insert terrorism reference here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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