BarleyNY Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 47 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Sorry aren't we 41 mill over right now,not 29 mill? That is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 59 minutes ago, NewEra said: I think you’re underestimating the impact of having an OC that’s in tune with the roster. Dorsey was all in on Diggs and neglected cook. Brady is the opposite while having no clue how to use his 2 good TEs (which can offset your need for having 4 good WRs). Again I’ll ask- which teams can afford to lose their WR1-2 and not miss a beat? No roster can lose its WR1 and WR2 and be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 56 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Sorry aren't we 41 mill over right now,not 29 mill? 8 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: That is correct. I believe Tompsett covers that in the videos, that the $29M number counts the expected increase in cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Until Diggs or the Rookie R1 WR gets hurt, in which case Shakir slides up a peg, and you don't have any useable WRs in slots #4, #5, #6. It's one storyline that has been talked about on here - the Bills have been virtually injury free on offense outside of Knox. In this scenario, hopefully Shorter can outplay his 5th Round draft slot. Only concern with DaQuan and Floyd is giving money to guys who are both 32+ when next season starts. 4 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: No roster can lose its WR1 and WR2 and be fine. Sorry- I should’ve typed WR1 or WR2 instead of WR1-WR2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I think the Bills are in a solid spot cap wise. The only bad contracts are Von Miller and Knox and Knox is fairly manageable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 So at minimum WR in Round 1. In this scenario we’re going all in on that player. Because it’s Diggs, R1, Shakir, Shorter and Harty. So do your plan, let Sherfield walk, and bring in a <$5M vet FA. In this scenario, if Shakir takes another large step forward and the R1 WR can give you 800+ yards, you might be ok. Keep Harty, hope Shorter becomes playable and come out of FA with a low cost veteran that is better than Sherfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Sorry aren't we 41 mill over right now,not 29 mill? I believe the estimate was running on the Over The Cap figures, which had a slightly more generous cap estimate. The general numbers per contract seem to hold out though. The premise that we can very comfortably get over the cap and have the money for rookies and a few modest re-signings still holds, as does the idea that if we have a once in a lifetime shot we can really push it, though there will be some uncomfortable changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 If New Orleans can field a football team then the cap is just accounting and book keeping, because they're like 75 million over every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 29 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I believe Tompsett covers that in the videos, that the $29M number counts the expected increase in cap. Thar can’t be it. Spotrac has an increase from $224.8M to $242.5M for the cap in their calculations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Euthanise Von 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 On 12/6/2023 at 12:12 AM, Rubes said: Holy moly, I hope that's all correct. That makes me feel a bit better about next year, but we'll see. Me too, Beane never gave the feeling that it would be much of an issue, it also (if true) may relax some board members that are overly concerned… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 9 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Thar can’t be it. Spotrac has an increase from $224.8M to $242.5M for the cap in their calculations. Right, theyre guessing too. They're merely $5M off from Tompsett's guess. No one knows the numbers for sure, but Tompsett DOES count a cap increase of some sort in his starting number which is why he starts at $29M under. He talks about exactly this at the 9:00 mark of the Cover1 video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 14 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I believe the estimate was running on the Over The Cap figures, which had a slightly more generous cap estimate. The general numbers per contract seem to hold out though. The premise that we can very comfortably get over the cap and have the money for rookies and a few modest re-signings still holds, as does the idea that if we have a once in a lifetime shot we can really push it, though there will be some uncomfortable changes. OTC has a number very close to Spotrac’s. They don’t account for rollover and when you factor that in, the numbers are nearly identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 51 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I believe Tompsett covers that in the videos, that the $29M number counts the expected increase in cap. Gotcha! Thanks doc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 9 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Right, theyre guessing too. They're merely $5M off from Tompsett's guess. No one knows the numbers for sure, but Tompsett DOES count a cap increase of some sort in his starting number which is why he starts at $29M under. He talks about exactly this at the 9:00 mark of the Cover1 video. Yeah. Everyone is guesstimating the cap increase so numbers will be off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 10 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Yeah. Everyone is guesstimating the cap increase so numbers will be off. FWIW I remember speculation that it would be a big jump. Sports betting has taken off in a big way. Again, complete speculation on the actual amount of revenue, but the gambling advertising I've seen has been going crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 24 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: FWIW I remember speculation that it would be a big jump. Sports betting has taken off in a big way. Again, complete speculation on the actual amount of revenue, but the gambling advertising I've seen has been going crazy. It looks like the estimates I see are for an 8% increase. That would be in line with the historical average so it certainly could be higher with the extra revenue you mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: So at minimum WR in Round 1. In this scenario we’re going all in on that player. Because it’s Diggs, R1, Shakir, Shorter and Harty. So do your plan, let Sherfield walk, and bring in a <$5M vet FA. In this scenario, if Shakir takes another large step forward and the R1 WR can give you 800+ yards, you might be ok. Keep Harty, hope Shorter becomes playable and come out of FA with a low cost veteran that is better than Sherfield. Can we boot Harty and Sherfield and take a 2nd WR in the 5th or 6th who can return punts and use the money to sign Josh Reynolds? I don't think we'd bring him in as WR 2 or 3 but he's probably what we wanted when we signed Sherfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Right, theyre guessing too. They're merely $5M off from Tompsett's guess. No one knows the numbers for sure, but Tompsett DOES count a cap increase of some sort in his starting number which is why he starts at $29M under. He talks about exactly this at the 9:00 mark of the Cover1 video. Tompsett is often wrong. Just FYI. He has admitted to not even reading the balance sheet of how the cap is being formulated and just basing his numbers off what OTC speculates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) On 12/6/2023 at 9:42 PM, Solomon Grundy said: Josh needs a known weapon. We aren't sure if any of these prospects will pan out, let alone produce from day one. No team is certain that a given prospect will pan out pretty much ever, it’s a chance that must be taken sooner or too late…, We get a new #1 WR in the draft, shift Diggs to #1b/2 WR and move on to other roster concerns, but right now we have a super bowl to win…, 😁👍 Edited January 4 by Don Otreply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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