Coldfronts Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) And why should anything change. the bills have not showed us anything to prove us wrong https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2023/11/5/23948251/buffalo-bills-fall-out-of-afc-playoff-picture-with-sunday-night-loss 1. Kansas City Chiefs (7-2, 5-1 AFC) 2. Baltimore Ravens (7-2, 4-2 AFC) 3. Jacksonville Jaguars (6-2) 4. Miami Dolphins (6-3) 5*. Pittsburgh Steelers (5-3, division tiebreaker*) 6*. Cleveland Browns (5-3, division tiebreaker*, win over CIN) 7*. Cincinnati Bengals (5-3, division tiebreaker*, loss to CLE) 8. New York Jets (4-3) 9. Buffalo Bills (5-4) 10. Houston Texans (4-4) 11. Indianapolis Colts (4-5, 3-3 AFC) 12. Las Vegas Raiders (4-5, 2-3 AFC) 13. Los Angeles Chargers (3-4) 14. Tennessee Titans (3-5, 2-4 AFC) 15. Denver Broncos (3-5, 1-4 AFC) 16. New England Patriots (2-7) * Steelers win a three-way tie in the AFC North because of their 2-0 division record. Then the Browns have a head-to-head tiebreaker over the Bengals. Edited November 6, 2023 by Coldfronts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Coldfronts said: And why should anything change. the bills have not showed us anything to prove us wrong https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2023/11/5/23948251/buffalo-bills-fall-out-of-afc-playoff-picture-with-sunday-night-loss 1. Kansas City Chiefs (7-2, 5-1 AFC) 2. Baltimore Ravens (7-2, 4-2 AFC) 3. Jacksonville Jaguars (6-2) 4. Miami Dolphins (6-3) 5*. Pittsburgh Steelers (5-3, division tiebreaker*) 6*. Cleveland Browns (5-3, division tiebreaker*, win over CIN) 7*. Cincinnati Bengals (5-3, division tiebreaker*, loss to CLE) 8. New York Jets (4-3) 9. Buffalo Bills (5-4) 10. Houston Texans (4-4) 11. Indianapolis Colts (4-5, 3-3 AFC) 12. Las Vegas Raiders (4-5, 2-3 AFC) 13. Los Angeles Chargers (3-4) 14. Tennessee Titans (3-5, 2-4 AFC) 15. Denver Broncos (3-5, 1-4 AFC) 16. New England Patriots (2-7) * Steelers win a three-way tie in the AFC North because of their 2-0 division record. Then the Browns have a head-to-head tiebreaker over the Bengals. Nobody Honestly Cares this team couldn’t even beat the Patriots 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 Is it too early to talk about draft positions, easier schedule next year, and unloading some of the expensive old veterans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, Coldfronts said: Is it too early to talk about draft positions, easier schedule next year, and unloading some of the expensive old veterans No it’s not unfortunately. what do we save by ditching Von? Poor guy is terrible out there, he should pull himself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, peterpan said: No it’s not unfortunately. what do we save by ditching Von? Poor guy is terrible out there, he should pull himself out. Von is a stand-up guy and a Hall of Famer I keep on waiting for him to retire and save the bills some dollars Edited November 6, 2023 by Coldfronts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, peterpan said: No it’s not unfortunately. what do we save by ditching Von? Poor guy is terrible out there, he should pull himself out. Von has been terrible since he came back. Teams are running right where he would be if he wasn't getting blown 15 yards off the play Bills need to unload all the old slow expensive vets and try again. The way they are playing they'll be lucky to win 2 more games this year. This place will self immolate if we finish last in the afce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 For now. They still are one game back of the division. They win last night..they would be in 1st place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 50 minutes ago, peterpan said: No it’s not unfortunately. what do we save by ditching Von? Poor guy is terrible out there, he should pull himself out. We don’t save anything by cutting von until after 2024. IIRC we’d lose like 10 more mil in space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 51 minutes ago, peterpan said: No it’s not unfortunately. what do we save by ditching Von? Poor guy is terrible out there, he should pull himself out. After Tre hurt himself again, I'm assuming Von will not be playing a lot of snaps anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: For now. They still are one game back of the division. They win last night..they would be in 1st place. For now ... yes ... but with our remaining schedule and the way we are playing, I don't see it happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: For now. They still are one game back of the division. They win last night..they would be in 1st place. but they didn't and they're not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Von has been terrible since he came back. Teams are running right where he would be if he wasn't getting blown 15 yards off the play Bills need to unload all the old slow expensive vets and try again. The way they are playing they'll be lucky to win 2 more games this year. This place will self immolate if we finish last in the afce What are you talking about? Von leads the league in sprinting 10 yards past the QB. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) The harsh reality is that Buffalo was one pass interference non call away from being 1-4 in what was supposed to be the easy part of the schedule. That is much more than a wake up call or slump. If you break down the remaining schedules you see this Tier 1 Buffalo might be the favorite-Broncos, Patriots. Even in those cases, Denver is playing better and New England already beat us Tier 2 Buffalo might beat them if they play well- Jets, Chargers Tier 3 Out of our League-Chiefs, Eagles, Cowboys, Dolphins Best case scenario to me is four more wins. Worst case is one more. The defense is depleted. The offense under Dorsey has been figured out by the rest of the league and the morale is shot. This is a drought era team with a good QB. Edited November 6, 2023 by dgrochester55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: The harsh reality is that Buffalo was one pass interference non call away from being 1-4 in what was supposed to be the easy part of the schedule. That is much more than a wake up call or slump. If you break down the remaining schedules you see this Tier 1 Buffalo might be the favorite-Broncos, Patriots. Even in those cases, Denver is playing better and New England already beat us Tier 2 Buffalo might beat them if they play well- Jets, Chargers Tier 3 Out of our League-Chiefs, Eagles, Cowboys, Dolphins Best case scenario to me is four more wins. Worst case is one more. The defense is depleted. The offense under Dorsey has been figured out by the rest of the league and the morale is shot. This is a drought era team with a good QB. Oddly enough I think we will do well against the tier 3s above. It's the lower caliber teams we can't handle this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: What are you talking about? Von leads the league in sprinting 10 yards past the QB. with that elite bend away from the ball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, dorquemada said: with that elite bend away from the ball Even my wife noticed it. "Where is #40 going? Is he trying to tackle someone behind the QB?" Edited November 6, 2023 by Tenhigh 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 54 minutes ago, Coldfronts said: Von is a stand-up guy and a Hall of Famer I keep on waiting for him to retire and save the bills some dollars He's not going to turn down millions of dollars. Just now, Tenhigh said: Even my wife noticed it. "Where us #40 going? Is he trying to tackle someone behind the QB?" He's practicing his wind sprints. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Von is just about embarrassing himself now. Wonder what is total stats are this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 How embarrassing is this list. 3 teams with mediocre talent (NYJ, Browns, Steelers) ahead of us. But based on the Bills propensity to play down to their opponents its richly deserved. How many times does this team need to look in a mirror and man up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, dgrochester55 said: The harsh reality is that Buffalo was one pass interference non call away from being 1-4 in what was supposed to be the easy part of the schedule. That is much more than a wake up call or slump. If you break down the remaining schedules you see this Tier 1 Buffalo might be the favorite-Broncos, Patriots. Even in those cases, Denver is playing better and New England already beat us Tier 2 Buffalo might beat them if they play well- Jets, Chargers Tier 3 Out of our League-Chiefs, Eagles, Cowboys, Dolphins Best case scenario to me is four more wins. Worst case is one more. The defense is depleted. The offense under Dorsey has been figured out by the rest of the league and the morale is shot. This is a drought era team with a good QB. Cowboys game is in Buffalo they win that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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