HoofHearted Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: That’s fair, but with a guy his size and speed you would expect/hope he’d toss that smaller player aside and at least affect the QB. I’ve seen numerous LBs go head up with a RB and the RB gets bowled over. I had never seen one sprinting to the LoS just to get stoned by a RB and then “that’s it.” No fight or hustle through the block, just acceptance that the back was there. It was wild to me. You're taught to compress the back into the QB, if you get stalemated you're taught to be a low box player and essentially maintain the LoS so that if the QB steps up into the pocket you can work an escape to compress it at that point. 12 minutes ago, Einstein said: I disagree. The Commanders motioned into Shotgun split on multiple plays. Bernard was able to recognize this particular direction due to Milano being the Mike. Again, everything to do with the motion and where the bubble was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Just now, HoofHearted said: You're taught to compress the back into the QB, if you get stalemated you're taught to be a low box player and essentially maintain the LoS so that if the QB steps up into the pocket you can work an escape to compress it at that point. The stalemated point is definitely what happened, he just stayed on the LoS with his hands on the back. There was no attempt to compress the back into the QB. Once he found there was a player in his way his sprint came to a full stop. Like I said, I was surprised because when I saw the RB step up I fully expected Tremaine to truck him, push him back, toss him aside, something! I didn’t expect an “oh well, I tried but he’s in the way” sort of give up. Luckily Ed Oliver (IIRC) got the sack on the play otherwise it would’ve incensed me even more 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoofHearted Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Just now, JayBaller10 said: The stalemated point is definitely what happened, he just stayed on the LoS with his hands on the back. There was no attempt to compress the back into the QB. Once he found there was a player in his way his sprint came to a full stop. Like I said, I was surprised because when I saw the RB step up I fully expected Tremaine to truck him, push him back, toss him aside, something! I didn’t expect an “oh well, I tried but he’s in the way” sort of give up. Luckily Ed Oliver (IIRC) got the sack on the play otherwise it would’ve incensed me even more 😂 His height was his biggest disadvantage in those situations. Those backs won the leverage battle more often than not because he had no bend and consistently played high. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: Waste of a draft pick tho He could've been had in the 6th. 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Congrats! Well deserved. Keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, HoofHearted said: Again, everything to do with the motion and where the bubble was. Again, I believe you are wrong. Cover 1 does as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoofHearted Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: Again, I believe you are wrong. Cover 1 does as well. Cover 1 does a good job of regurgitating football terms - not sure how much football they actually know though. 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: The Commies got most of their rushing yards after they were trailing big and our defense was concerned with the pass (a la Green Bay last year). Bienemy appears to think he still has Mahomes. He called a run play only 4 or 5 times in the first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, HoofHearted said: I mean they are being used differently. We played a way more 2 under Frazier where Edmunds was a true zone Tampa 2 dropper. This year under McDermott we're primarily playing 1 and 3 with a little 6 rolled in and we're pattern matching more than we ever have in the past (playing more man principles out of our zone coverages). Leslie Frazier used tons of pattern matching also Probably top in the league The last 5 years.. when McDermott and Frasier got here our defense was heavy cover 3 with matching Edited September 27, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoofHearted Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Leslie Frazier used tons of pattern matching also Probably top in the league The last 5 years When they ran quarters, sure. They played far more 2/Tampa than anything else though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HoofHearted said: When they ran quarters, sure. They played far more 2/Tampa than anything else though. The defense morphed a lot with Frasier over 6 years.. after teams adjusted to how they played them It started as a heavy cover 3 with pattern matching That it morphed to a combo coverages Then it turned into a deep tempa 2.. with cover one on third down There was like a 6 year morph based on how offenses played us ... By the end of the morph , bills also really liked cover one on third down Edited September 27, 2023 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 hours ago, MJS said: He was a 3rd round draft pick... Oh ***** yeah, I thought he was 4th! Okay, we can alternate the 3rd each year, offense, then defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoofHearted Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: The defense morphed a lot with Frasier over 6 years.. after teams adjusted to how they played them It started as a heavy cover 3 with pattern matching That it morphed to a combo coverages Then it turned into a deep tempa 2.. with cover one on third down There was like a 6 year morph based on how offenses played us ... By the end cover one on third down was the team's favorite Sure. I've specifically been comparing last year to this year with the Edmunds/Bernard comparisons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 hours ago, ngbills said: The Bills had pretty much a top 5 defense during Edmunds tenure. So its hard to say he was misused, just differently. Why would the Bills feel the need to change that if it was working? Now with a change to Bernard they are adjusting to what will make the D most successful, which has been much more blitzing Bernard and putting Bernard in better position for these types of plays. Also people have such short term memories. Last season first three games vs this season were much tougher yet the D possibly played even better...just look at the QB's last year vs this year. 2022 LAR - 10 points and 240 yards with 7 sacks and 3 turnovers to Stafford TEN - 7 points and 187 yards with 2 sacks and 4 turnovers to Tannehill MIA - 21 points and 212 yards with 2 sacks and 0 turnovers to Tua 2023 NYJ - 22 points and 289 yards with 3 sacks and 1 turnover to Zach Wilson LAV - 10 points and 240 yards with 0 sacks and 3 turnovers to Jimmy G WAS - 3 points and 230 yards with 9 sacks and 5 turnovers to Sam Howell It was actually 16 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Elam is the only guy preventing that draft from being a total home run. But I don't want to hot take that one. He clearly has talent - he may end up starting here, or being a good trade piece, so the evaluation on that is still pending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloTX Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Not every MLB is born equal. Bernard has a nose for the ball while Edmunds just has a big nose. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Congratulations young man! Keep crushing it! I owe you a sincere apology as I questioned your draft pick and your ability to play LB. It wasn’t personal but I was wrong on so many levels. It’s great to be wrong on this. Stay healthy and keep bringing it! LETS GO BUFFALO! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: The defense morphed a lot with Frasier over 6 years.. after teams adjusted to how they played them It started as a heavy cover 3 with pattern matching That it morphed to a combo coverages Then it turned into a deep tempa 2.. with cover one on third down There was like a 6 year morph based on how offenses played us ... By the end of the morph , bills also really liked cover one on third down Frasier was the one who designed to defense to neutralize MVP Lamar Jackson in playoffs which was copied by other teams who had the personnel following year. Frasier was a good DC who could not seem to solve puzzle of some teams and was well liked by players who he took the hits for their mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) Is it too early to start thinking nicknames? I was thinking about “the gaurd dog” because of the way he attacks. then I thought what about “the Bernard dog” Any thoughts? Edited September 27, 2023 by 0017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Frasier was the one who designed to defense to neutralize MVP Lamar Jackson in playoffs which was copied by other teams who had the personnel following year. Frasier was a good DC who could not seem to solve puzzle of some teams and was well liked by players who he took the hits for their mistakes. Certainly a better man than defensive coordinator. Class act and well respected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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