Warriorspikes51 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: I couldn't agree more. I think IMHO that Kincaid will be a brilliant pick by Beane. And he could develop into a top 5 TE before our very eyes. But we will need to find Steph's replacement in the near future. Diggs likely has 3 really good seasons yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Not a chance in hell I think that he’s going to be huge and games this year, but not in his first game and not against the Jets People need to temper their expectations a little bit Why do people need to temper their expectations? I have high expectations for Kincaid, and I expect he will have a long nfl career. My expectations aren't going to help or hinder his ability to achieve them aim high and if you fall short you can still fall under expectation but very close to them and xour still doing well. Have low expectations and fail I would question the lack of effort to even achieve a low expecation and that is unacceptable to me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Diggs likely has 3 really good seasons yet Fingers crossed but I see Diggs turning into a Hines Ward type player the last 3 or 4 years of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 22 minutes ago, wppete said: Wouldn’t surprise me…. I think he will blow peoples minds on Monday. If the Jets decide to Blitz Josh he will find Kincaid all day in the middle. Swollen Beasley will be on display! If they go Zone Josh will carve them up. I think it's Swole Beasley, Swollen Beasley makes it sound like Cole had an allergic reaction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, Logic said: Physical presence, I guess. Travis Kelce is 6'5", 256 lbs and ran a 4.61 40. Dalton Kincaid is 6'4", 240 lbs and ran a 4.71 40. I think that what makes Kincaid special is his brain and, as you said, his spatial awareness. I see him making a living making 8 yard catches in 3rd and 7, the way Ertz has for years. I DON'T see him regularly making huge downfield catches, being a RAC monster, or generally being the physical freak that it seems like Kelce/Gronk are/were. This is only my opinion. I think he'll be a very good player, but I see him more as a technician and security blanket than as a gamebreaking big play threat. Do you really believe Kincaid can’t run better than a 4.71? That’s your reasoning? Strange. Josh allen ran a poor 40, but he can move. Kincaid can move. You can see it. In most cases in which people bring up his speed they usually say he looks like 4.5’s. Kincaid is a smoother mover and route runner than Kelce. Is a better athlete and a more explosive mover. His hand are also almost 3/4 of an inch bigger the only things we should be worried about with him is injury and Dorsey. 9 minutes ago, AuntieEm said: Why do people need to temper their expectations? I have high expectations for Kincaid, and I expect he will have a long nfl career. My expectations aren't going to help or hinder his ability to achieve them aim high and if you fall short you can still fall under expectation but very close to them and xour still doing well. Have low expectations and fail I would question the lack of effort to even achieve a low expecation and that is unacceptable to me. That’s the best. Fans “need to temper expectations”. Had someone telling me I had to temper expectations because if he doesn’t do well, I’ll blame Dorsey and unfairly call for his job. 🤣 as if that will have an impact on anyone other than my wife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Imagine how great it would be if our offense has a player who is 80-85% of Kelce immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 53 minutes ago, NewEra said: Yeah they are. I have high expectations Same here. Kincaid is going to be a problem. His separation skills are superb and has the hands needed to be successful. I would not be surprised at all if he’s top 2 in yards for TE at seasons end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Diggs likely has 3 really good seasons yet I hope so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: Do you really believe Kincaid can’t run better than a 4.71? That’s your reasoning? Strange. Josh allen ran a poor 40, but he can move. Kincaid can move. You can see it. In most cases in which people bring up his speed they usually say he looks like 4.5’s. Kincaid is a smoother mover and route runner than Kelce. Is a better athlete and a more explosive mover. His hand are also almost 3/4 of an inch bigger the only things we should be worried about with him is injury and Dorsey. That’s the best. Fans “need to temper expectations”. Had someone telling me I had to temper expectations because if he doesn’t do well, I’ll blame Dorsey and unfairly call for his job. 🤣 as if that will have an impact on anyone other than my wife I feel like people seem offended that I said he's not gonna be Travis Kelce. Zach Ertz is/was still a HELL of an NFL tight end. I conceded that I think he'll be very good or great, and that I'm excited to see him play. I just don't see him as the physical presence/alien freak show that Gronk and Kelce are/were. I could very well be wrong in my prediction, but saying "I don't think he'll be Kelce" -- a guy who may go down as the GOAT TE -- isn't meant to be disparaging. Players can win in lots of different ways. Kincaid being a smooth, brainy technician instead of a physical freak doesn't mean he can't still be highly effective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Imagine how great it would be if our offense has a player who is 80-85% of Kelce immediately. He’s faster and more fluid than Kelce. Honestly Kincaid’s potential is incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, NewEra said: Kincaid is a smoother mover and route runner than Kelce. Is a better athlete and a more explosive mover. His hand are also almost 3/4 of an inch bigger Kincaid, the rookie who hasn’t played a single snap in the regular season? This is a god awful take. Kelce is a top 5 TE OAT still in his prime and he’s a worse route runner, lesser athlete, and is also less explosive than DK? 😂 Full disclosure, I loved the DK selection and think he will be awesome in this offense, but this is just silly. Edited September 8, 2023 by TheWeatherMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 He probably has 18 catches for 300 yards, 5 TD’s and they carry him off the field like Kellen Winslow Sr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 The water has broken and we are being rushed to the hospital! The baby is finally here. The reason why I think this is the year simply comes down to 1 person. Dalton Kincaid. The difference maker. We have lacked that one person on offense to draw attention away from Diggs that can reliably get open underneath and over the middle. He’s going to be a problem to cover. To fast and fluid for most linebackers. He will completely change the offensive dynamic this year where teams just can’t focus on Diggs. Having him play from the slot also helps open up the running game because he will help clear out some space in the box. This isn’t even including how I think our defense actually got better and healthier. We finally get our Super Bowl win everyone! Everyone will know who Dalton Kincaid is after this year is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, Logic said: I feel like people seem offended that I said he's not gonna be Travis Kelce. Zach Ertz is/was still a HELL of an NFL tight end. I conceded that I think he'll be very good or great, and that I'm excited to see him play. I just don't see him as the physical presence/alien freak show that Gronk and Kelce are/were. I could very well be wrong in my prediction, but saying "I don't think he'll be Kelce" -- a guy who may go down as the GOAT TE -- isn't meant to be disparaging. Players can win in lots of different ways. Kincaid being a smooth, brainy technician instead of a physical freak doesn't mean he can't still be highly effective. I’m only offended that you used a 4.71 40 time to support your thoughts. As if his speed is one of the reasons he isn’t Kelce. Watch him run. He’s plenty fast. I didn’t call him Kelce- just a future HoFer 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Araiza Curse said: The water has broken and we are being rushed to the hospital! The baby is finally here. The reason why I think this is the year simply comes down to 1 person. Dalton Kincaid. The difference maker. We have lacked that one person on offense to draw attention away from Diggs that can reliably get open underneath and over the middle. He’s going to be a problem to cover. To fast and fluid for most linebackers. He will completely change the offensive dynamic this year where teams just can’t focus on Diggs. Having him play from the slot also helps open up the running game because he will help clear out some space in the box. This isn’t even including how I think our defense actually got better and healthier. We finally get our Super Bowl win everyone! Everyone will know who Dalton Kincaid is after this year is done. Who are you and what have you done with araiza curse 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I think it's Swole Beasley, Swollen Beasley makes it sound like Cole had an allergic reaction. Yes it’s Swole! iPhone autocorrect 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Who are you and what have you done with araiza curse I still have my concerns, but overall I truly believe Kincaid is what gets us over the top. The piece we’ve been missing to help keep the chains going, and to help free up Diggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Who are you and what have you done with araiza curse Can only assume he is mocking this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Airseven said: Thread title is a legit factoid. Nice job. But the opening post veers into the fluff. C+ Yes, we already know you are hoping the favored Bills can "just keep it close." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: Kincaid, the rookie who hasn’t played a single snap in the regular season? This is a god awful take. Kelce is a top 5 TE OAT still in his prime and he’s a worse route runner, lesser athlete, and is also less explosive than DK? 😂 Full disclosure, I loved the DK selection and think he will be awesome in this offense, but this is just silly. Lol…..another typical “you” take. Please show me where I called him a “worse route runner”. I didn’t. I save you the time. I said he was a smoother route runner. There’s more to route running than being smooth. Yes, I think Kincaid is a more explosive mover and a more fluid athlete. Kelce is obviously the better TE by a MILE at the moment. I’m just talking about some physical attributes. 5 minutes ago, WEATHER DOT COM said: Can only assume he is mocking this thread He was actually very complimentary! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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