Doc Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, boyst said: He's still a douche because he's not an expert on this subject despite being touted as one. As someone who's gone to the Titanic wreckage 33 times and survived, I'd put him up there with any so-called "expert." Hell an "expert" died in that submersible. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Doc said: As someone who's gone to the Titanic wreckage 33 times and survived, I'd put him up there with any so-called "expert." Hell an "expert" died in that submersible. Fair in this perspective. I guess cnn/media would rather chase the clout name then get a legit expert. The average Uhmerikan glued to this is probably more impressed by the guy who made the documentary on the Titanic than a guy with a degree from MIT on submarines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, boyst said: Fair in this perspective. I guess cnn/media would rather chase the clout name then get a legit expert. The average Uhmerikan glued to this is probably more impressed by the guy who made the documentary on the Titanic than a guy with a degree from MIT on submarines I think most experts think the same thing happened to it. There was obviously structural failure for it to implode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Doc said: I think most experts think the same thing happened to it. There was obviously structural failure for it to implode. I guess and maybe they're just too busy like many of the world trying to avoid this crap to want to actually talk about it. Sadly, I'm sure Congress will dredge this out for an investigation, and there will be some big Netflix movie, and we will get a huge spin on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Doc said: As someone who's gone to the Titanic wreckage 33 times and survived, I'd put him up there with any so-called "expert." Hell an "expert" died in that submersible. I’ve been on like 30 flights. Can I claim to be expert next plane crash? honestly, I don’t know how full involvement but I suspect he’s much more of a passenger than designer on these subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I’ve been on like 30 flights. Can I claim to be expert next plane crash? honestly, I don’t know how full involvement but I suspect he’s much more of a passenger than designer on these subs. He’s part owner of a submersible company. I’ve heard he helped design the submersible he’s been using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Doc said: He’s part owner of a submersible company. I’ve heard he helped design the submersible he’s been using. But by design does that mean he actually knows the physics and engineering of the vehicles or he has opinions based on those experts to him? Or... Is he saying that they should make the feng shui a little more pleasing in the driver seat? Or they should make the entryway at a different angle to allow for various media reasons? I know he knows a lot about his field but his actual field isn't designing submarines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Read this! Wow! https://komonews.com/news/loc...ron-ocean-surface-expedition "...Over cigars one night, (Stockton) Rush told Weissmann that he got the carbon fiber for the Titan’s hull at a big discount because it was past its shelf-life for use in airplanes, Weissmann said. But Rush reassured him it was safe. ..." WTF! 27 minutes ago, boyst said: But by design does that mean he actually knows the physics and engineering of the vehicles or he has opinions based on those experts to him? Or... Is he saying that they should make the feng shui a little more pleasing in the driver seat? Or they should make the entryway at a different angle to allow for various media reasons? I know he knows a lot about his field but his actual field isn't designing submarines. Any idiot knows that spheres are better than tubes at deep dives. And if you are gonna make it a tube... Better to go stronger than carbon fiber. They have been doing this since the 1960s. I think the engineering is pretty well set... Even more so now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) Yeah... But I got some cheap expired carbon fiber. What could possibly go wrong after 12 dives! 😆 🤣 😆... He's treating it like one day old expired milk! /smdh... Where was this clown from? Edited June 25, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 You'd think... They'd have a REMOTE "BlackBox" and sound bouy in place nearby to record every detail up until the last 40th millisecond the implosion went off. Would help the investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: I’ve been on like 30 flights. Can I claim to be expert next plane crash? honestly, I don’t know how full involvement but I suspect he’s much more of a passenger than designer on these subs. James Cameron helped design the submersible that he piloted to the very bottom of the Mariana Trench, making him only the third person to ever achieve this. He most certainly is an expert in the field. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/05/23/186302916/Mariana-Trench https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepsea_Challenger https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/120325-james-cameron-mariana-trench-challenger-deepest-returns-science-sub 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 33 minutes ago, Bad Things said: James Cameron helped design the submersible that he piloted to the very bottom of the Mariana Trench, making him only the third person to ever achieve this. He most certainly is an expert in the field. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/05/23/186302916/Mariana-Trench https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepsea_Challenger https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/120325-james-cameron-mariana-trench-challenger-deepest-returns-science-sub Cameron has conducted more deep sea expeditions than anyone else on the planet. 33 trips to the Titanic and is one of only a few to visit Challenger Deep in the Mariana Trench. I’d say his opinion on deep sea exploration is as well qualified as anyone else in the world. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 12 hours ago, Bad Things said: James Cameron helped design the submersible that he piloted to the very bottom of the Mariana Trench, making him only the third person to ever achieve this. He most certainly is an expert in the field. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/05/23/186302916/Mariana-Trench https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepsea_Challenger https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/120325-james-cameron-mariana-trench-challenger-deepest-returns-science-sub interesting to learn! Good share. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 11:04 AM, Doc said: I stopped reading after you started talked about Terry Pegula not needing to extend McBeane. LOL. This is hilarious. What’s even more hilarious is that somebody else tagged your post as “awesome.” So this site has tens of thousands of users, and surely MANY people have a different opinion than you, but you’re stating here that when somebody has a different opinion than you, and you see that in the first sentence or two of somebody’s post, you “stop reading.” Uh huh, right. If somehow you are being honest/serious here, I can’t imagine any adult being so triggered to compel such a reaction on a public message board. You would be “not reading” a ton of posts in here, simply because somebody else’s opinion was different than yours. I guess some people….like you…enjoy going through life in an echo chamber, and that is perplexing and sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 41 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: LOL. This is hilarious. What’s even more hilarious is that somebody else tagged your post as “awesome.” So this site has tens of thousands of users, and surely MANY people have a different opinion than you, but you’re stating here that when somebody has a different opinion than you, and you see that in the first sentence or two of somebody’s post, you “stop reading.” Uh huh, right. If somehow you are being honest/serious here, I can’t imagine any adult being so triggered to compel such a reaction on a public message board. You would be “not reading” a ton of posts in here, simply because somebody else’s opinion was different than yours. I guess some people….like you…enjoy going through life in an echo chamber, and that is perplexing and sad. Don't flatter yourself. I skim through the first few lines of posts when I'm trying to play catchup. Your opening screed made me skip to the next post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 10:40 PM, ExiledInIllinois said: You'd think... They'd have a REMOTE "BlackBox" and sound bouy in place nearby to record every detail up until the last 40th millisecond the implosion went off. Would help the investigation. It didn't have a data recorder, but did have a transponder which was completely autonomous from the vessel, ie., had its own separate power supply etc. Given that the transponder stopped signaling at the same time communication was lost and research as well as intel listening devices picked up the big bang was a very strong indication the rescue attempt was irrelevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 I think they were attacked by an undersea monster: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Im so glad I said no when they asked me to go down there! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said: Im so glad I said no when they asked me to go down there! @HOUSE is glad he couldn't find his wallet. Edited June 27, 2023 by WhoTom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 minute ago, WhoTom said: @HOUSE is glad he couldn't find his wallet. I said no because i had the same controller and that mofo broke so quick on me 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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