Education in America

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

This is where we are with too many students. It is against the law to use your phone at school, but the county makes it so we cant actually punish the kids until the 7th violation, making the law basically null. Secondly I requested of the 32 parents who sent their children to school with non school computers that they only allow them the school computer and not one complied, despite my telling them that kids can't be monitored on the other computers. If parents don't man up we are screwed.

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

Rep Harriet Hageman “The Federal Department of Education

spends it as a budget of about $280 billion a year.

Less than 25% goes to educating our students.

So where does the other $220 billion go?

It goes to a bureaucracy, it goes to a consultant, and that consultant

then donates money BACK TO DEMOCRATS, and then it goes to a

different consultant, and then it goes to an NGO.

I mean, IT IS MONEY LAUNDERING and money churning at its absolute best.”

 

“Is the DOGE Program targeted at these bureaucrats?” “Yes”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 17, 2025 by B-Man

[The Frankish Reich]

There wasn't always a Department of Education. It used to be within Health, Education, and Welfare. I think Carter suggested we create it and Congress did so. The idea was that something important - and who denies that education is important? - needs it's own federal department to signal that importance and to create its own internal lobby to ensure that it wasn't given short shrift in the budgetary process. The same kind of sentiment was behind the creation of the Department of Homeland Security after 9/11.

 

I don't think anyone can look at DOE or even DHS and say that creation of a new bureaucracy helped achieve substantive goals. So I have no problem with eliminating these departments and giving their essential functions back to other departments or agencies.

 

But (there's always a but): let's do it an an orderly manner. It can be done. Has anyone really tried? No. "Hand it over to DOGE" is an admission of defeat. If the new Republican agenda is popular, then do like Reagan and convince the American people that these goals are important and Congress will follow.

[JDHillFan]

6 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I don't think anyone can look at DOE or even DHS and say that creation of a new bureaucracy helped achieve substantive goals. So I have no problem with eliminating these departments and giving their essential functions back to other departments or agencies.

 

But (there's always a but): let's do it an an orderly manner. It can be done. Has anyone really tried? No. "Hand it over to DOGE" is an admission of defeat. If the new Republican agenda is popular, then do like Reagan and convince the American people that these goals are important and Congress will follow.

Congress will follow? In the age of Trump? Zero chance of getting reform of this nature through the Murphy’s and Schiff’s of the senate. Which democrats will sign on to this sort of thing? 
 

Reagan never had a filibuster-proof majority but it was obviously a much more sane era. The parallel you have attempted to draw is a non-possibility. 

[BillsFanNC]

Who is impressed?

 

Roundy for sure. Anyone else?

 

 

[SectionC3]

MAGA:  Look at us!  We’re the evidence that the Department of Education has failed!  We’re a horde of semi-toothless morons who don’t understand tariffs and are taking down the economy because of it!

 

In some respects it’s hard to argue the point. 

[sherpa]

The elimination of the Federal Dept of Education has been suggested since the mid 80's.

Turning this issue back to the states and local govs has always seemed to make the most sense, as it is with most issues.

 

[Doc]

Education of America is horrible. Something needs to change.

[The Frankish Reich]

Look at who Trump invited to his Department of Education Memorial Service:

 

- Ron DeSantis, governor of the state bragging about how its ACT scores show a whopping 25% of graduates hitting the national Math benchmark

- Mike DWine, governor of a state that says hold my beer, Ron, we at 28%

- the Governor of Oklahoma (I have no idea of the name) where 15% meet the standard!

 

These folks have obviously discovered the Secret Red State Sauce that will allow us to compete with China!

[aristocrat]

2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

MAGA:  Look at us!  We’re the evidence that the Department of Education has failed!  We’re a horde of semi-toothless morons who don’t understand tariffs and are taking down the economy because of it!

 

In some respects it’s hard to argue the point. 

Pretty good evidence here

[BillsFanNC]

 

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

Pretty good evidence here

It’s not good, for sure.  Define “proficient,” though. 

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Elon should have worked harder on spelling. 

[The Frankish Reich]

15 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

It’s not good, for sure.  Define “proficient,” though. 

Elon should have worked harder on spelling. 

That's the Afrikaaner spelling.

[aristocrat]

37 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

It’s not good, for sure.  Define “proficient,” though. 

Elon should have worked harder on spelling. 

They can’t read at their own grade level. Department of education doing a bang up job

[B-Man]

 

45 years of failure 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Hooked on Phonics: Mississippi's Education Reform Pays Off As It Leads Nation In NAEP Test Scores

 

 

 

The Left likes to pretend red states are backward, uneducated enclaves of MAGA-hat wearing Nazis. They'll tell you all day long how they are smarter, morally superior, and just plain better people than folks in flyover country.  (often voiced by the lowlives here on PPP)

 

Except we've seen what happens in blue cities and blue states, and it's not superior to anyone or anything.

 

So it's going to really tick off the Left when they see that Mississippi is leading the way when it comes to test scores:

 

 

And Oregon is dead last.

 

Oregon did away with testing and graduation requirements in the name of 'equity',

which just means every kid who comes out of Oregon's public schools is equally illiterate.

 

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2025/04/08/mississippi-school-test-scores-soar-n2411110

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2025/04/09/brevard-teacher-loses-job-after-calling-student-by-preferred-name/82999144007/

 

 

This is going to be interesting to me how this all comes out. I do not know how her calling a kid by the wrong name became a problem unless the teacher was dumb enough to broadcast that they were breaking the law. I am more curious if the name situation is the "official" reason but there was some other issue they are really firing her for doing.