Education in America

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

On 5/28/2025 at 9:44 AM, All_Pro_Bills said:

Somebody told me a while back that you can tell a lot about a person's situation by how much time and effort they spend thinking about the future. Generally, people well off or wealthy spend a lot of time worrying about the future vs. focusing on the present. The poor on the other hand, do not.

 

A lot of the education problem has to do with the culture of poverty. People that value education are people that think a lot about the future. If you've got a decent job and a stable home life you're in a good position to do that kind of thinking. Those White and Asian households that you mention where education is deemed important provide that environment. A lot of black and hispanic households provide this kind of environment too. These are homes that produce the most proficient students and learners. These people learn that putting in the work in the present produces gratification and results in the future. The ability to defer gratification and rewards is a trait almost every single successful person in any field of work share.

 

But if you're working poor or live at or below the poverty level, no matter your race and national origin, its hard to focus on the future when the present is a struggle for survival. In those circumstances, putting a lot of time and effort focusing on the future is not only a waste of time but can hinder the ability to survive under the present circumstances. You can't defer gratification and results or worry too much about the future, you need results and money now to survive. That these people need results now, not later, should be obvious because there may not be a later for them.

You have to get some help along the way.  A wealthy/affluent family can surely raise a lazy, unmotivated child as easily as a family struggling to get by.  
 

I used to take my children on a drive through a local city to show them what they didn’t want as their future.  I always paid particular attention to the accumulation of garbage and debris at/near around a residence v homes/dwellings that were well kept in the same neighborhood.  My theory was that you can not always control your circumstances (@Doc Brown did a nice job outlining the need for a social safety net in another thread recently), but in a city with regularly scheduled, predictable garage pick up, in the vast majority of cases, you could control the amount of trash accumulating outside your front door.  
 

I think you’re over the target here, and at some point, on some level, a desire for more has to come from somewhere.  The stories of athletes being successful and crediting a hard-working single mom for helping them achieve goals of college and beyond come to mind.  
 

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You have to get some help along the way.  A wealthy/affluent family can surely raise a lazy, unmotivated child as easily as a family struggling to get by.  
 

I used to take my children on a drive through a local city to show them what they didn’t want as their future.  I always paid particular attention to the accumulation of garbage and debris at/near around a residence v homes/dwellings that were well kept in the same neighborhood.  My theory was that you can not always control your circumstances (@Doc Brown did a nice job outlining the need for a social safety net in another thread recently), but in a city with regularly scheduled, predictable garage pick up, in the vast majority of cases, you could control the amount of trash accumulating outside your front door.  
 

I think you’re over the target here, and at some point, on some level, a desire for more has to come from somewhere.  The stories of athletes being successful and crediting a hard-working single mom for helping them achieve goals of college and beyond come to mind.  
 

 

I live in an area with a lot of immigrants and first generation Americans and the trash analogy is very true. My low intelligent students, regardless of background, will often leave trash behind or write all over the desk, despite my providing paper whenever requested. As a reward I will buy donuts for classes that perform well on the final test, this year I had over 200 total donuts for the kids, and the only kids who did not clean up after themselves were the kids who did not perform well but were rewarded because their classmates did well. I will be redoing my incentives next year because I refuse to clean up a streak of chocolate icing along a desk because a kid was too lazy to use a napkin. 

[Orlando Buffalo]

I want to give one example of how the kids are better behaved than their parents. At graduation we ask that all applause be held since we have 700+ kids to name individually, and we announce it in 3 languages. We only had  a few parents/families disobeying the rule and the kids whose families did act up all looked embarrassed by their family. every single student was great. 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

34 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Duke is a private institution. But they’ll go after them. University of Chicago next?  MIT? Eat our technology.Northwestern?  Then top liberal arts schools,, will soon be a second class global technolgy and information center.

 Golf claps

[Big Blitz]

Burn it all down.  
 

 

 

[Homelander]

On 6/19/2025 at 12:15 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is why Nazis always take over the education systems first.

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[joshypoo]

On 6/1/2025 at 12:04 PM, Orlando Buffalo said:

I live in an area with a lot of immigrants and first generation Americans and the trash analogy is very true. My low intelligent students, regardless of background, will often leave trash behind or write all over the desk, despite my providing paper whenever requested. As a reward I will buy donuts for classes that perform well on the final test, this year I had over 200 total donuts for the kids, and the only kids who did not clean up after themselves were the kids who did not perform well but were rewarded because their classmates did well. I will be redoing my incentives next year because I refuse to clean up a streak of chocolate icing along a desk because a kid was too lazy to use a napkin. 

i really hope that streak of icing doesn’t kill you snowflake lol…

 

maybe have the daughters crew team come in and do the cleaning for you since they’re being pushed out of college sports by the big bad trans women dominating in crew right now lol.

[B-Man]

 

 

The mask is off.

 

 

 Teachers Union Resolves To Call Trump ‘Fascist,’ Support Student Protests Over ICE Raids.

 

The largest teachers union in the United States has demanded that $3500 be set aside so that it can officially refer to President Donald Trump and his “programs and actions” as “fascist.”

 

Members of the National Education Association, during its annual convention, adopted a resolution that would have the group put up the cash so that all official NEA materials would “correctly characterize” the agenda of the Trump administration as “fascist.”

 

Corey DeAngelis shared several of the resolutions that were adopted by the NEA, saying in a Monday X post, “I just received a copy of the National Education Association’s resolutions that they passed at their annual convention. They kept them private this year.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/teachers-union-resolves-to-call-trump-fascist-support-student-protests-over-ice-raids

[B-Man]

 

 

Nation's largest teachers’ union misspells "fascism" in anti-Trump resolution

 

                   

 

 

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[Big Blitz]

On 4/25/2023 at 11:43 AM, Big Blitz said:

I give it 10 years then it’s over.  
 

The real estate tax savings are going to be necessary anyway to compensate for your 15 percent interest rate - but housing costs that hold because the government continues to subsidize it.   

 

Democrats turned their back on manufacturing.  They’ll do the same with education.  
 

8 more to go.  Now they can’t even say a college degree will get you employment.  

 

 

 

 

…When the promise is destroyed, most middle-class men (greedy phenotypes marginally exist) would rather prefer to drop out to a homestead / farmland / van-life / forest-cabin, than going through long Education, slogging 70h in an eventual dead-end corporate job with stagnant wages & endless politics and consuming hedonistically.

 

However, wealthy are fine. They are marrying with higher TFR.

 

It’s the middle-class male facing DEI, broken family dynamics, AI disruption, housing unaffordability.

 

 

 

 

They (government, feminists, Hollywood, corporate America) sold us a lie that both parents had to work.  They knew that would destroy families.  
 

But so long as it increased the GDP in the process, they didn’t care.  

[Big Blitz]

Teachers Unions during COVID:  We can do this online.  All in this together 

 

 

Oklahoma:   Bet.  And we won’t need you and we’re going to save tax payers millions 

 

 

 

 

[Roundybout]

7 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Teachers Unions during COVID:  We can do this online.  All in this together 

 

 

Oklahoma:   Bet.  And we won’t need you and we’re going to save tax payers millions 

 

 

 

 

Sounds like communism to me. Where is it in the constitution that kids need to be schooled online? 

[JDHillFan]

5 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Sounds like communism to me. Where is it in the constitution that kids need to be schooled online? 

Always good to comment without actually watching the video. Makes one look rather sharp. 
 

nice work 

[CoudyBills]

32 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Sounds like communism to me. Where is it in the constitution that kids need to be schooled online? 

It's buried in the section that deals with public works and fiber to every home.  

[Roundybout]

31 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Always good to comment without actually watching the video. Makes one look rather sharp. 
 

nice work 

Oh, sorry. 
 

Where is it in the constitution that tax money should be funneled to insane regressive MAGA cult indoctrination? 
 

 

Wtf is a “patriotic education” anyways?

[JDHillFan]

3 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Oh, sorry. 
 

Where is it in the constitution that tax money should be funneled to insane regressive MAGA cult indoctrination? 
 

 

Wtf is a “patriotic education” anyways?

No need to be sorry, just educate yourself. It’s a “private school” that has merely been certified for use by the state of Oklahoma. Are you short on things to be outraged about today? 
 

Choice = “sounds like communism” is the argument you have made tonight. Absolutely brilliant. 

[CoudyBills]

15 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Oh, sorry. 
 

Where is it in the constitution that tax money should be funneled to insane regressive MAGA cult indoctrination? 
 

 

Wtf is a “patriotic education” anyways?

What do you care?  Are you an Oklahoma resident?  If this is what they want, shouldn't you be tolerant?