JDHillFan Posted September 3 Posted September 3 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Not upset. Just confused about your apparent obsession with me. Repeatedly going through my posts and quoting me on unrelated topics to derail the conversation when you have nothing of value to say. You’re not even the first to have such a weird obsession with me. I think this site just has a bad effect on some people and you may want to consider rethinking how much time you spend here. You are giving yourself far too much credit. I simply remember when people say truly dimwitted things, especially when it’s done with an air of superiority. Think Redhawk. In your case there is a fair amount of material to call on. If you want to believe that’s an obsession, I’m OK with that. thank you for your concern about my welfare, but we all have fun in our own way. if you are still wondering why people were dunking on you immediately after the November election, just go back and read most of your posts with a critical eye. I’m confident you’ll figure it out. 1
ChiGoose Posted September 3 Posted September 3 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: You are giving yourself far too much credit. I simply remember when people say truly dimwitted things, especially when it’s done with an air of superiority. Think Redhawk. In your case there is a fair amount of material to call on. If you want to believe that’s an obsession, I’m OK with that. thank you for your concern about my welfare, but we all have fun in our own way. if you are still wondering why people were dunking on you immediately after the November election, just go back and read most of your posts with a critical eye. I’m confident you’ll figure it out. I cannot think of a bigger waste of time or energy than keeping track of what posters on this site said. If you have to dredge up old posts, you’re just admitting you have nothing of relevance to say. Do you have anything to say about the actual topic of this thread? Or do you just want to keep thinking about me instead? EDIT: It seems my other number one fan is here too. Maybe the two of them can fight it out for who spends the most time thinking about me instead of saying anything useful. Edited September 3 by ChiGoose
T master Posted September 3 Posted September 3 Both the new Mayor and the Governor need to be committed they are both crazy as a S**T house rat ! They would rather complain about not having the money or space to keep the illegal immigrants, take tax payer money to support keeping them there rather than allowing ICE to come in and remove the problem . F all of them ! Cut off any Federal funding and let the people of the state let their feeling be known if need be kick their asses out of office, eventually the people will and are starting to get tired of their BS lies and them sticking up for what is the wrong thing to stick up for and are seeing through their BS . And if anyone here is sticking up for either of them you are a part of the problem and it should be allowed for about 10 + illegals to come live at your house and you pay for them then report back and let us all know how it's going ... Stupid is as stupid does !!!
JDHillFan Posted September 3 Posted September 3 6 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I cannot think of a bigger waste of time or energy than keeping track of what posters on this site said. If you have to dredge up old posts, you’re just admitting you have nothing of relevance to say. Do you have anything to say about the actual topic of this thread? Or do you just want to keep thinking about me instead? EDIT: It seems my other number one fan is here too. Maybe the two of them can fight it out for who spends the most time thinking about me instead of saying anything useful. If you want to think I’m keeping track, that’s OK too. In reality, some things are so idiotic that it’s hard for me to forget them. Again, in your case, there’s quite a few of those. I’m sorry if that upsets you. it’s irrefutable that there are sections of Chicago where it’s an all out disaster and people should not have to live like that. I’m surprised that’s the case what with Chicago having benefited from Democratic rule for many decades. Mayor Bowser in DC seems to have had a change of mind. Let’s see what happens in Chicago.
Wacka Posted September 3 Posted September 3 Hey Kimg, I'm immunocompromised and I don't wear a mask unless there is a lot of sneezing or coughing going on. I dp carry one in the car.
The Frankish Reich Posted September 3 Posted September 3 2 hours ago, JDHillFan said: It wasn’t my intention to upset you by pointing out some of your past thoughts. Please spend your retirement cataloging posts by your perceived enemies on a football forum. I can think of no better use of your time! 1
JDHillFan Posted September 3 Posted September 3 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: Please spend your retirement cataloging posts by your perceived enemies on a football forum. I can think of no better use of your time! I would love to forget your “mentally fit” routine. Sadly, that’s just not possible. 1
BillsFanNC Posted September 3 Posted September 3 You mean you guys actually remember the profoundly stupid shlit that we post? That's weird. - The King, Finding, Roundy, Bullstojan et al... 😂 Outside of everyone here presumably being actual Bills fans what else do we know about posters here OTHER than what they post? JFC.
Pokebball Posted September 3 Posted September 3 3 hours ago, ChiGoose said: A good way to evaluate whether or not the whole National Guard thing is actually about crime is to see if they focus their deployment on neighborhoods like Lawndale, Garfield Park, and Englewood. If instead, they deploy to places like the Loop, River North, or Old Town, it’s because the real purpose is a show of force against perceived enemies, not combating crime. Which option do we think they will choose? Are you ok? You might want to go touch some grass buddy. You seem to have an unhealthy relationship with this site. I've experienced gang activity in the Loop, River North and Old Town, especially late at night. 1
LDD Posted September 3 Posted September 3 If they send National Guard troops into some of these places there will be shots fired and that's the point where my biggest concern will come about...these guardsmen are not trained for LE, they are combat trained and many of them are very young. It's a terrible spot to put these young people in. I have no idea why Trump doesn't send federal LE/FBI/HSI/ATF into surge these places if it's really about crime. I assume that it's a pretty big morale kill of the Nat Guard to be deployed to American cities where they can look forward tooooo...combat against American citizens?? WTF?? 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 3 Posted September 3 1 minute ago, LDD said: If they send National Guard troops into some of these places there will be shots fired and that's the point where my biggest concern will come about...these guardsmen are not trained for LE, they are combat trained and many of them are very young. It's a terrible spot to put these young people in. I have no idea why Trump doesn't send federal LE/FBI/HSI/ATF into surge these places if it's really about crime. I assume that it's a pretty big morale kill of the Nat Guard to be deployed to American cities where they can look forward tooooo...combat against American citizens?? WTF?? Get a grip. My god how do you people make it in life? 1 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 3 Posted September 3 4 hours ago, sherpa said: Regarding relative safety in Chicago,I lived in the a western suburb for a number of years. The crime issue is really neighborhood dependent. There are places we really enjoyed, and there were places we would never go voluntarily. Never lived there, but loved the times I have visited. I have a close friend who lives downtown--bought a very cool house in a renovated area maybe 20 years ago. His version is that crime is bad, it happens in his neighborhood but at a lower rate than some of the high crime areas. Guy was shot up around the corner a few years ago. I have another friend who lived in the suburbs, worked downtown in his financial services firm who believes the city is not worth the risk anymore due to crime and poor leadership. Part of his view may be skewed because the wife of a friend caught a bullet in the head on the way home to the suburbs, from the downtown office she worked at, and died. He moved south, the firm moved out of the downtown area. Obviously, two anecdotal experiences does not a crisis make, but it certainly sounds like the relative safety of the city is nothing to brag about if you're leading the charge at city and state levels. 1
LDD Posted September 3 Posted September 3 51 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Get a grip. My god how do you people make it in life? Well, I live in a van down by the river and it's calm here. Conducting LE in major American cities is a pretty big chore, one that the Nat Guard isn't trained for. That's my point, sorry you didn't pick up on it. I also have a concern for other Americans, generally speaking. We're all in this together. 1
JDHillFan Posted September 3 Posted September 3 2 minutes ago, LDD said: Well, I live in a van down by the river and it's calm here. Conducting LE in major American cities is a pretty big chore, one that the Nat Guard isn't trained for. That's my point, sorry you didn't pick up on it. I also have a concern for other Americans, generally speaking. We're all in this together. Muriel Bowser has seen it all play out up close and personal. She now supports it and wants more of it. I suspect there’s a few MPs in the mix of those deployed.
ChiGoose Posted September 3 Posted September 3 1 hour ago, Pokebball said: I've experienced gang activity in the Loop, River North and Old Town, especially late at night. There's no place that is bereft of all crime. But if there is such a spate of crime in Chicago that would warrant a heavy handed federal and military deployment, shouldn't those resources be focused on the areas with the highest crime? If the presence of soldiers deters crime, wouldn't you want them stationed in the places where crime is most likely to occur? Here are the 12 month totals of homicides and homicide rates of some Chicago neighborhoods: Washington Park: 12 homicides (Rate of 92.3 out of 100k people) West Garfield Park: 15 homicides (88.2) East Garfield Park: 15 (75) Greater Grand Crossing: 23 (74.2) North Lawndale: 24 (68.6) West Pullman: 15 (57.7) Riverdale: 4 (57.1) Englewood: 13 (54.2) Humboldt Park: 19 (35.2) Near West Side: 19 (27.9) Near North Side: 13 (12.4) Near South Side: 3 (10.3) Lower West Side: 3 (8.8) The Loop: 2 (4.8) Lincoln Park: 2 (2.9) Lakeview: 1 (1) If you were to organize the deployment of these resources, how would you deploy them based on these homicide rates? If you see a bunch of Feds standing around the Bean in broad daylight, that might tell you something about the real intent here. 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 3 Posted September 3 6 minutes ago, LDD said: Well, I live in a van down by the river and it's calm here. Conducting LE in major American cities is a pretty big chore, one that the Nat Guard isn't trained for. That's my point, sorry you didn't pick up on it. I also have a concern for other Americans, generally speaking. We're all in this together. The Chicago police clearly don't have any answers. They should bring in the a team for all I care! Just now, ChiGoose said: There's no place that is bereft of all crime. But if there is such a spate of crime in Chicago that would warrant a heavy handed federal and military deployment, shouldn't those resources be focused on the areas with the highest crime? If the presence of soldiers deters crime, wouldn't you want them stationed in the places where crime is most likely to occur? Here are the 12 month totals of homicides and homicide rates of some Chicago neighborhoods: Washington Park: 12 homicides (Rate of 92.3 out of 100k people) West Garfield Park: 15 homicides (88.2) East Garfield Park: 15 (75) Greater Grand Crossing: 23 (74.2) North Lawndale: 24 (68.6) West Pullman: 15 (57.7) Riverdale: 4 (57.1) Englewood: 13 (54.2) Humboldt Park: 19 (35.2) Near West Side: 19 (27.9) Near North Side: 13 (12.4) Near South Side: 3 (10.3) Lower West Side: 3 (8.8) The Loop: 2 (4.8) Lincoln Park: 2 (2.9) Lakeview: 1 (1) If you were to organize the deployment of these resources, how would you deploy them based on these homicide rates? If you see a bunch of Feds standing around the Bean in broad daylight, that might tell you something about the real intent here. What's the real intent?
LDD Posted September 3 Posted September 3 2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Muriel Bowser has seen it all play out up close and personal. She now supports it and wants more of it. I suspect there’s a few MPs in the mix of those deployed. The National Guard is offering Level 1 Use of Force LE "officer presence" and it is probably working. But, that only works for awhile. My point would be, what happens when "presence" isn't enough and the guard then has to conduct actual LE which they don't have jurisdiction to do? MPs can only conduct LE in connection with military members and violations of UCMJ etc... Why not send in actual federal law enforcement?
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