Kemp Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share Posted September 7, 2023 Trump's latest lie is that he will testify when even the dimmest of Trump supporters know it would be suicide for him. He is incapabable of telling the truth. In response to another question, he said he can do whatever he wants. He'll still say that if he ends up behind bars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Echo chamber ∆∆∆∆ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 9 hours ago, Andy1 said: Well a recent survey showed that Trumpers believe the orange king more than their family or religious leaders so yea, loyalty to the tribe overrides their religious values. In other words… cult. Can you post a link or source of that survey? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share Posted September 7, 2023 There are lots of Trumpers here who are unable to discuss facts and instead write cultish responses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 42 minutes ago, Kemp said: Trump's latest lie is that he will testify when even the dimmest of Trump supporters know it would be suicide for him. He is incapabable of telling the truth. In response to another question, he said he can do whatever he wants. He'll still say that if he ends up behind bars. Yup, just like he can't wait to debate, lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Can you post a link or source of that survey? CBS news and YouGov did the poll. Edited September 7, 2023 by Andy1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share Posted September 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Andy1 said: CBS news and YouGov did the poll. Now he'll either tell you that you can't trust that source or he'll ignore you because he's in a cult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share Posted September 7, 2023 Trump needs more time to prepare his defense because he's so darn busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Can you post a link or source of that survey? SPLC? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share Posted September 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: SPLC? CBS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Andy1 said: CBS news and YouGov did the poll. This is the poll that finally convinced me that it is a cult. A cult of personality, or whatever you want to call it, but a cult. It doesn't have anything to do with policy or ability to get things done, and it certainly has nothing to do with stability and having a steady hand at the wheels of power. It is simply a cult. This is why Ron DeSantis, who believed he could get traction by outflanking Trump on the right on culture war issues, has gained no traction at all. He didn't understand that nature of the almost sexual attraction people (mostly men) have to Trump. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: This is the poll that finally convinced me that it is a cult. A cult of personality, or whatever you want to call it, but a cult. It doesn't have anything to do with policy or ability to get things done, and it certainly has nothing to do with stability and having a steady hand at the wheels of power. It is simply a cult. This is why Ron DeSantis, who believed he could get traction by outflanking Trump on the right on culture war issues, has gained no traction at all. He didn't understand that nature of the almost sexual attraction people (mostly men) have to Trump. So the one poll and the article slanted helped you to fully support what you read in the slanted article. The end seems to be some projection on your part. Good luck with that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chris farley said: So the one poll and the article slanted helped you to fully support what you read in the slanted article. The end seems to be some projection on your part. Good luck with that Why the eyeroll at the posting of the poll? after you asked for it? You're a clown, as cali guy would say were he here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: Why the eyeroll at the posting of the poll? after you asked for it? You're a clown, as cali guy would say were he here. Aw. The ***** bird didn't block me and is all kinds of tweaking this morning. I'm sorry. It's gotta be hard realizing your never gonna be in the make believe story you created for your character. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Kemp said: Every single person who died, or ended up hurt, or ended up in prison as a result of 1/6, suffered their fate because a sociopath spread a lie that he was robbed and because Republican elected officials backed up his lie out of fear and their own evil desire for power. in fairness, people had to be really stupid to believe it. ...oh, wait. They bear some responsibility. Or their parents do for letting them out of the basement, raising them poorly or passing on bad genes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Kemp said: There are lots of Trumpers here who are unable to discuss facts and instead write cultish responses. Asking you to share actual facts and sources to support your claim about something is an inability to discuss fact? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Why the eyeroll at the posting of the poll? after you asked for it? You're a clown, as cali guy would say were he here. How does his eye roll use differ from your constant use of the laughing emoji? It’s a rhetorical question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Aw. The ***** bird didn't block me and is all kinds of tweaking this morning. I'm sorry. It's gotta be hard realizing your never gonna be in the make believe story you created for your character. yeah, i needed a chuckle and was curious given an eyeroll response to an answered question. unfortunately eyerolls can't be ignored. Edited September 7, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: in fairness, people had to be really stupid to believe it. ...oh, wait. They bear some responsibility. Or their parents do for letting them out of the basement, raising them poorly or passing on bad genes. I'm not going to defend anybody that committed acts of violence but I'm also not going to get on my knees and blow the government for the outstanding job (sarcasm) their doing either like some here. Edited September 7, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: How does his eye roll use differ from your constant use of the laughing emoji? It’s a rhetorical question. I don't believe I've ever posted a laughing emoji in response to a directly answered question. Rarely get the opportunity since the right so rarely direvcly answers questions. Cryptic, evasive responses trigger actual laughter at the pathos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: I don't believe I've ever posted a laughing emoji in response to a directly answered question. Rarely get the opportunity since the right so rarely direvcly answers questions. Cryptic, evasive responses trigger actual laughter at the pathos... Sure 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I'm not going to defend anybody that committed acts of violence but I'm also not going to get on my knees and blow the government for the outstanding job (sarcasm) their doing either like some here. how bout people who illegally trespassed? was that OK with you? 2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Sure cryptic, evasive response. I really did laugh. It was too perfect. Edited September 7, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: how bout people who illegally trespassed? was that OK with you? How about they did nothing to preempt it, left the standard Capitol Police contingent swinging in the breeze to deal with 100K protesters, and let it happen while the National Guard was held back a couple blocks away until 8 PM when it was all over in order to exploit it for political purposes? How about those people? Not a one of them responsible for allowing the Capitol to be undefended has been questioned or held to account. But Joe Public taking selfies in the Rotunda gets a year for trespassing. Edited September 7, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: How does his eye roll use differ from your constant use of the laughing emoji? It’s a rhetorical question. I've gotten the eye roll when I post something I'm quite sure he agrees with. It's knee jerk. Poster = A; Response = B (eye roll) There's a thread here about "why are you here?" I was nice and said sometimes I learn something. People have different experiences and knowledge, and believe it or not, sometimes I do learn something. More often, though, it's like a window into people who are just impervious to logic or reason. People who keep posting the same things even when I've pointed out how they are objectively wrong. Example: I've now seen the "Vanguard and Black Rock own a huge percentage of Apple/Microsoft/Netflix/Whatever." I've pointed out that this "ownership" represents the mutual funds/ETFs that individual investors and things like pension funds own. Vanguard/Black Rock do not own them in their own portfolios. Instead of saying, "thanks for the clarification" or at a minimum simply not repeating that misunderstanding, they continue on as if nothing has changed. So I'm not here to change anyone's mind. But I have learned a lot about how some people are so dug in to their beliefs, even if those are based on misinformation, that those beliefs will never change. That's real insight ... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: How about they did nothing to preempt it, left the standard Capitol Police contingent swinging in the breeze to deal with 100K protesters, and let it happen while the National Guard was held back a couple blocks away until 8 PM when it was all over in order to exploit it for political purposes? How about those people? Not a one of them responsible for allowing the Capitol to be undefended has been questioned or held to account. But Joe Public taking selfies in the Rotunda gets a year for trespassing. Even if this was true, no one forced them to illegally trespass. you seem to be saying the traitors were entrapped? C'mon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I've gotten the eye roll when I post something I'm quite sure he agrees with. It's knee jerk. Poster = A; Response = B (eye roll) There's a thread here about "why are you here?" I was nice and said sometimes I learn something. People have different experiences and knowledge, and believe it or not, sometimes I do learn something. More often, though, it's like a window into people who are just impervious to logic or reason. People who keep posting the same things even when I've pointed out how they are objectively wrong. Example: I've now seen the "Vanguard and Black Rock own a huge percentage of Apple/Microsoft/Netflix/Whatever." I've pointed out that this "ownership" represents the mutual funds/ETFs that individual investors and things like pension funds own. Vanguard/Black Rock do not own them in their own portfolios. Instead of saying, "thanks for the clarification" or at a minimum simply not repeating that misunderstanding, they continue on as if nothing has changed. So I'm not here to change anyone's mind. But I have learned a lot about how some people are so dug in to their beliefs, even if those are based on misinformation, that those beliefs will never change. That's real insight ... Thanks for stepping up and explaining redhawk’s over-reliance on the laughing emoji. I thought it was just a matter of personal insecurities. In both situations it’s lame. Edited September 7, 2023 by JDHillFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I've gotten the eye roll when I post something I'm quite sure he agrees with. It's knee jerk. Poster = A; Response = B (eye roll) There's a thread here about "why are you here?" I was nice and said sometimes I learn something. People have different experiences and knowledge, and believe it or not, sometimes I do learn something. More often, though, it's like a window into people who are just impervious to logic or reason. People who keep posting the same things even when I've pointed out how they are objectively wrong. Example: I've now seen the "Vanguard and Black Rock own a huge percentage of Apple/Microsoft/Netflix/Whatever." I've pointed out that this "ownership" represents the mutual funds/ETFs that individual investors and things like pension funds own. Vanguard/Black Rock do not own them in their own portfolios. Instead of saying, "thanks for the clarification" or at a minimum simply not repeating that misunderstanding, they continue on as if nothing has changed. So I'm not here to change anyone's mind. But I have learned a lot about how some people are so dug in to their beliefs, even if those are based on misinformation, that those beliefs will never change. That's real insight ... exactly. This hate for mutual funds is bizarre. And he's on the side calling others commies or socialists. These people are certifiable and should be ignored except for entertainment value. 3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Thanks for stepping up and explaining redhawk’s over-reliance on the laughing emoji. I thought it was just a matter of personal insecurities. Please tell me how you are absolutely certain based on vast knowledge, that trump couldn't fire the Fed chair. It's sure to illicit a laugher. Oh, and then call anyone who disagrees a fool...x for the Wharton prof with a JD who specializes in SCOTUS and works for Brookings... Edited September 7, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Even if this was true, no one forced them to illegally trespass. you seem to be saying the traitors were entrapped? C'mon.... Even if it were true? That's an even bigger story than the trespassing rap! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) Quack MD. Doors were opened in some cases from the inside at the Capitol on J6. People streamed in, single file right past Capitol police officers and continued between the velvet ropes. We have a guy blaring from a megaphone at the top of scaffolding exhorting people to first "move forward" and then "we're in, cmon, we need your help, let's fill up the Capitol!" Strangely enough the FBI has no interest in this character whatsoever. I wonder why? Don't tell us...Qanon! Ray Epps himself used the defense that he thought the Capitol was open on J6 as to why he was encouraging people to go INTO the Capitol that day. Curious why he told hundreds of others that WE need to go into the Capitol, that he thought was open, but then he never did? If the I thought the Capitol was open defense is good enough for Epps, why not for others? Officers standing by letting people in might give one the impression that the Capitol was indeed open, no? Edited September 7, 2023 by BillsFanNC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Quack MD. Doors were opened in some cases from the inside at the Capitol on J6. People streamed in, single file right past Capitol police officers and continued between the velvet ropes. We have a guy blaring from a megaphone at the top of scaffolding exhorting people to first "move forward" and then "we're in, cmon, we need your help, let's fill up the Capitol!" Strangely enough the FBI has no interest in this character whatsoever. I wonder why? Don't tell us...Qanon! Ray Epps himself used the defense that he thought the Capitol was open on J6 as to why he was encouraging people to go INTO the Capitol that day. Curious why he told hundreds of others that WE need to go into the Capitol, that he thought was open, but then he never did? If the I thought the Capitol was open defense is good enough for Epps, why not for others? Officers standing by letting people in might give one the impression that the Capitol was indeed open, no? So you're ok with the Ashlii Babbit shooting then? Because that area was locked and people still tried pushing through and broke the window that she then climbed through all while being ordered not to. I honestly don't know what the policies are involving the Capitol being open to the public day to day, but I'd assume that normally during the certification of an election, it is closed. I may be wrong. But even if people were let in, the actions by some of the people after that caused problems. if I have a party, and have people inside, and 3 of the 15 people invited start causing problems and breaking things in my house, everyone is out. And those that then refuse are now there illegally, whether they came in invited or not. And I'm not agreeing if people were "let it" or not. I have no idea as I wasn't there. Just showing that even if they were "let in", that doesn't give them free reign, or establish that they continued to be peaceful once inside. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Why the eyeroll at the posting of the poll? after you asked for it? You're a clown, as cali guy would say were he here. You should wear an eye roll from him like a trophy. He's a banal incel. Every single post is the same. You ever see Debbie Downer on snl? That's him except male/incel. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 37 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Thanks for stepping up and explaining redhawk’s over-reliance on the laughing emoji. I thought it was just a matter of personal insecurities. In both situations it’s lame. True. Believe it or not, I have posted likes and agrees for lots of posts coming from people ostensibly on the other side of the political spectrum. Read the post before responding! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: how bout people who illegally trespassed? was that OK with you? cryptic, evasive response. I really did laugh. It was too perfect. What's worse, an illegal trespass at the southern border or a citizen entering their countries capital? The hypocrisy from the left on these things is remarkable. Edited September 7, 2023 by Pokebball 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: You should wear an eye roll from him like a trophy. He's a banal incel. Every single post is the same. You ever see Debbie Downer on snl? That's him except male/incel. So much projection "John" you all going to owe me rent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: True. Believe it or not, I have posted likes and agrees for lots of posts coming from people ostensibly on the other side of the political spectrum. Read the post before responding! I do also, on occasion. Unfortunately, the occasion rarely arises from the other side. But I rarely get likes from them...and that's just fine by me. 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Even if it were true? That's an even bigger story than the trespassing rap! Yes, because you're with the party of law and order. Except when you aren't. Did you notice any liberals crying about Hunter being likely to get 10 years? Any "but what about Kushner?" Edited September 7, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: But I rarely get likes from them... You are an older version of billstime. What’s to like? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 So fun seeing leftists triggered by emoticon reactions to posts Here's a few more for them... For the sane, you do realize that this will be their next angle to complain to mods, right? But he eyerolls all my content! Additionally we have useful idiots getting triggered by: Ignoring them. (The King and Finding Qanon) Tagging them and the notifications it generates (The King et al.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: You are an older version of billstime. What’s to like? and you're a bad version of yourself. ibid. 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: So fun seeing leftists triggered by emoticon reactions to posts Here's a few more for them... For the sane, you do realize that this will be their next angle to complain to mods, right? But he eyerolls all my content! Additionally we have useful idiots getting triggered by: Ignoring them. (The King and Finding Qanon) Tagging them and the notifications it generates (The King et al.) We find ya'll entertaining. until we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share Posted September 7, 2023 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Asking you to share actual facts and sources to support your claim about something is an inability to discuss fact? Every time I have posted facts Trumper responses have been to jump topics, ignore, or insult. 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I'm not going to defend anybody that committed acts of violence.... It's at least somewhat encouraging that you would not cast a vote for Trump since his lie was the inspiration for the violence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: How about they did nothing to preempt it, left the standard Capitol Police contingent swinging in the breeze to deal with 100K protesters, and let it happen while the National Guard was held back a couple blocks away until 8 PM when it was all over in order to exploit it for political purposes? How about those people? Not a one of them responsible for allowing the Capitol to be undefended has been questioned or held to account. But Joe Public taking selfies in the Rotunda gets a year for trespassing. You blame they, when they were Trump? Is this the flat-out lie that was pushed that Pelosi held back protection when she had zero power to do so? _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Did their lawyers give them bad advice or did they ignore the advice? Edited September 7, 2023 by Kemp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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