CapeBreton Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/16/2023 at 9:56 PM, Big Turk said: That big RB from Texas...not Robinson, the other one... Roschon Johnson, this guy looked pretty solid at the combine and runs hard, guessing he either goes late or is a UDFA though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, CapeBreton said: Roschon Johnson, this guy looked pretty solid at the combine and runs hard, guessing he either goes late or is a UDFA though. Most draft prognastication websites have Roschon Johnson projected in the third round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 9 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: I have a feeling that Beane is gonna get this done. I can't see them trading him to an AFC team, much less the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 If he’s looking for a big bodied back why didn’t he pull the trigger on Williams, Foreman, Perine . For god’s sake D’Ernest Johnson signed back with Cleveland for a couple million.This guy thinks that these FAs will take less for the privilege of playing in Buffalo. Just go out and get Zeke or trade for someone. I’m losing confidence in Beane with each passing day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, Eastport bills said: If he’s looking for a big bodied back why didn’t he pull the trigger on Williams, Foreman, Perine . For god’s sake D’Ernest Johnson signed back with Cleveland for a couple million.This guy thinks that these FAs will take less for the privilege of playing in Buffalo. Just go out and get Zeke or trade for someone. I’m losing confidence in Beane with each passing day. WIlliams got $4M/year, Foreman got $3M and Perine got $3.75M. The Bills could easily have afforded any of them. There were probably other factors involved. As for Johnson, he's not a big back and as far as I can see, is still unsigned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I am ok with the Elliot or Fournette idea now. Those guys aren’t my favorite, but they have something to prove, so you get them when their back is against the wall. They will be at their best. 13 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: If he’s looking for a big bodied back why didn’t he pull the trigger on Williams, Foreman, Perine . For god’s sake D’Ernest Johnson signed back with Cleveland for a couple million.This guy thinks that these FAs will take less for the privilege of playing in Buffalo. Just go out and get Zeke or trade for someone. I’m losing confidence in Beane with each passing day. With each passing day the prices get cheaper and more vets will be released. Remember that their priorities don’t always line up with ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 15 minutes ago, Doc said: WIlliams got $4M/year, Foreman got $3M and Perine got $3.75M. The Bills could easily have afforded any of them. There were probably other factors involved. As for Johnson, he's not a big back and as far as I can see, is still unsigned. He signed back with Cleveland for 2.4 million. I know he’s not as big but I like him. He’s not being aggressive and he throws these wish lists out there to give fans the idea he’s got a plan. We may be in trouble with this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: He signed back with Cleveland for 2.4 million. I know he’s not as big but I like him. He’s not being aggressive and he throws these wish lists out there to give fans the idea he’s got a plan. We may be in trouble with this guy. That was last year. And again they had money to sign any of those guys. Foreman chose the worst team in the league. You can't make guys sign with you. Edited March 18 by Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 15 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I am ok with the Elliot or Fournette idea now. Those guys aren’t my favorite, but they have something to prove, so you get them when their back is against the wall. They will be at their best. With each passing day the prices get cheaper and more vets will be released. Remember that their priorities don’t always line up with ours. OK, good point but guys are coming off the board that fit the description. What viable big bodied backs are eligible for release. I know of several that have just been resigned. Unless he’s looking to go RB with 27, we’re looking at a bargain basement dumpster dive tomato can. 3 minutes ago, Doc said: That was last year. You can always count on me for up to date info. Sorry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: If he’s looking for a big bodied back why didn’t he pull the trigger on Williams, Foreman, Perine . For god’s sake D’Ernest Johnson signed back with Cleveland for a couple million.This guy thinks that these FAs will take less for the privilege of playing in Buffalo. Just go out and get Zeke or trade for someone. I’m losing confidence in Beane with each passing day. We're talking about filling the #2/#3 RB spot. No need to rush into a desperate deal for 2nd level positions. It'll be fine. My sights are set on Zeke. Edited March 18 by DrDawkinstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Chaos said: Most draft prognastication websites have Roschon Johnson projected in the third round. I did not realize he was that high, he’s probably off the table that early then. I did see the Bills met with Bijan and Roschon though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: We're talking about filling the #2/#3 RB spot. No need to rush into a desperate deal for 2nd level positions. It'll be fine. My sights are set on Zeke. It’s not only the #2 RB, it’s starting LB, #2 receiver, Edge rusher if Miller isn’t ready. We’re playing defense with free agency instead of aggressively getting difference makers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: It’s not only the #2 RB, it’s starting LB, #2 receiver, Edge rusher if Miller isn’t ready. We’re playing defense with free agency instead of aggressively getting difference makers. "Aggressive" in Free Agency usually means desperate and previously-low-talent with no big spends and lots of cap room, so willing to overspend on players who will never live up to the contract. See: Da Bears, and the Falcons. Plenty of time and opportunity to cover those needs. I wouldnt call any of them premium positions. Except maybe DE, but we've made enough investment there already. Time for one (or more) of the kids to step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, Doc said: I can't see them trading him to an AFC team, much less the Bills. Tennessee has to know they aren't in SB contention. I'm thinking that they may want to do Henry a solid and trade him to a contender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 If the heading of this post is true i'm glad Beane has finally seen the error of his ways as far as when it comes to picking up a RB either in the draft or in FA because it has seemed to me that he has a love affair with RB's that are 200- Lbs & 5' 9" or less . In the past he has had in later rounds RB's the likes of AJ Dillon, Brian Robinson, Antonio Gibson, & others that were bigger backs that he could have had at the same pick as a Moss or others but he passed on them at those picks & then we have Gilliam that has shown some flashes but they don't use him more to see if he is that guy . I just hope they do get a bigger back & decide to actually use them more than a sprinkle here & a dash there Henry would be awesome but there again would he be more of a hood ornament or would he actually be a weapon used or Fornette but he is a lot more iffy IMHO but could be more cost prohibitive as far as the cap if he doesn't go for 1 in the draft . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, Eastport bills said: If he’s looking for a big bodied back why didn’t he pull the trigger on Williams, Foreman, Perine . For god’s sake D’Ernest Johnson signed back with Cleveland for a couple million.This guy thinks that these FAs will take less for the privilege of playing in Buffalo. Just go out and get Zeke or trade for someone. I’m losing confidence in Beane with each passing day. I think they were only interested in Williams. But we're not the only team looking for players, and most other teams have more money. 1 hour ago, Eastport bills said: It’s not only the #2 RB, it’s starting LB, #2 receiver, Edge rusher if Miller isn’t ready. We’re playing defense with free agency instead of aggressively getting difference makers. We're doing what we can w/ the money we have. How many difference makers do you think we can afford? We picked up a starting guard, and a speedy receiver. As I calculate it, we have room for maybe one more mid-level move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, Success said: I think they were only interested in Williams. But we're not the only team looking for players, and most other teams have more money. No excuses, he freed up enough money to get the guys we need. Keep making excuses for mediocrity and we deserve what we get, which is 0 for the club history SBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 3 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: No excuses, he freed up enough money to get the guys we need. Keep making excuses for mediocrity and we deserve what we get, which is 0 for the club history SBs. It's just reality. We missed out on one RB; most teams miss out on players in FA. We also got a starting guard, and a fast receiver. We'll probably make one more move, either RB or MLB. But we're working on a tight budget here. I like how we're looking heading into '23. I thought we had the best team for the 1st part of '22, until things kind of went off the rails. I feel like every team's fanbase feels this way when FA starts, every year - except for the 3-4 teams making the biggest splashes. It's that "every other team is making moves and we're just sitting there" thing. If you check other boards, the sentiments are the same. FA can be very overblown. The "FA winner" is so rarely the team we see there at the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Success said: It's just reality. We missed out on one RB; most teams miss out on players in FA. We also got a starting guard, and a fast receiver. We'll probably make one more move, either RB or MLB. But we're working on a tight budget here. I like how we're looking heading into '23. I thought we had the best team for the 1st part of '22, until things kind of went off the rails. I feel like every team's fanbase feels this way when FA starts, every year - except for the 3-4 teams making the biggest splashes. It's that "every other team is making moves and we're just sitting there" thing. If you check other boards, the sentiments are the same. FA can be very overblown. The "FA winner" is so rarely the team we see there at the end. Bills fans sound exactly like Chiefs fans, and not as bad as Bengals and Eagles fans who watched their "runner up" teams get decimated by Free Agency. The Bengals and Eagles would love to be in the Bills position of "retaining our own 'garbage'". Could be far worse. This is simply life at the top. It's understandable Bills fans arent used to it and dont know how to deal with it. Even if we had the cash, we could "win the offseason", like the Bears and Falcons (who stink) or the Dolphins (who win the offseason every year, become the media darlings, and then go 9-7). Edited March 18 by DrDawkinstein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 3 minutes ago, Success said: It's just reality. We missed out on one RB; most teams miss out on players in FA. We also got a starting guard, and a fast receiver. We'll probably make one more move, either RB or MLB. But we're working on a tight budget here. I like how we're looking heading into '23. I thought we had the best team for the 1st part of '22, until things kind of went off the rails. I feel like every team's fanbase feels this way when FA starts, every year - except for the 3-4 teams making the biggest splashes. It's that "every other team is making moves and we're just sitting there" thing. If you check other boards, the sentiments are the same. FA can be very overblown. The "FA winner" is so rarely the team we see there at the end. Eloquently put but we’re not trying to win the off season but trying to replace crucial pieces we lost. KC and Cinn needed to revamp their O-line and got the best FA tackles. We’re just as capable of getting 2 or 3 good players as they are. Hardy was an OK pickup but he’s coming off major injury. We lost arguably our best defensive player and our 20 million edge rusher along with our starting RB. If Hardy works out, he is a slot to replace McKenzie but weren’t we trying to get deeper in the secondary and at receiver. After #27 in the draft which should be O-line, are you confident #54 or #81 will make a difference. Remember we’re chasing KC and Cinn, we should be better than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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