akcash Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, BigdaddyinOrlando said: Yeah, plus they appear to be hitting the reset button. You want and need draft currency asap and next year picks do nothing, next year picks come in after a June 1 trade. can’t see it happening Yeah I hear what u are saying. The fans on that board tho seemed like they and the gm weren't worried about picks in '23. Not sure how it comes to that conclusion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: "You mean DT, LB, and S, don't you?" says a fella named Sean. Yeah, that too.😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: No way we can upgrade the offensive line in 2023 at this point. What we have now is what it's going to be, likely with a couple draft picks added into the mix. What's your preference for adding a true WR2? Right now the available options are Hopkins for Arizona's asking price, Jerry Jeudy for a 1st, or OBJ for whatever salary he's asking for. If reports are true that OBJ wants to play with Aaron Rodgers on the Jets that gives us just Hopkins and Jeudy as the available options. Unless you have someone else in mind? I would prefer jeudy and using some Beane majic to make that happen Hopkins is s short term solution, but a viable one no to OBJ unless he is cheap and we can dump him in a year or two. I am nervous about those injuries. And i dislike him muchly LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) Pick one going in to the 2023 season: Hopkins Whatever pick 27 will be You’d take Hopkins all day. Obviously try to get him for less but if that’s what the Cardinals want I’m doing it. Doing that means much more to your aging vets in a win now mode then trusting the process with your 27th pick overall that will likely need 1 year to develop. So don’t scoff at trading 27. It should be available for ANY player that adds elite talent to this team right now. Edited March 25, 2023 by Big Blitz 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: I would prefer jeudy and using some Beane majic to make that happen Hopkins is s short term solution, but a viable one no to OBJ unless he is cheap and we can dump him in a year or two. I am nervous about those injuries. And i dislike him muchly LOL Folks are speculating that Jeudy might not be available now because of an injury to KJ Hamler. I don't know. I said upthread, I think it was this thread, somewheres, that the higher the AZ price goes for Hopkins, the more Jeudy becomes a consideration (if he's available.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, Dr. Who said: Folks are speculating that Jeudy might not be available now because of an injury to KJ Hamler. I don't know. I said upthread, I think it was this thread, somewheres, that the higher the AZ price goes for Hopkins, the more Jeudy becomes a consideration (if he's available.) Read the same. More of a wish than a potential reality ay this point. But would be choice in "what if " world 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Pick one going in to the 2023 season: Hopkins Whatever pick 27 will be You’d take Hopkins all day. Obviously try to get him for less but if that’s what the Cardinals want I’m doing it. Doing that means much more to your aging vets in a win now mode then trusting the process with your 27th pick overall that will likely need 1 year to develop. So don’t scoff at trading 27. It should be available for ANY player that adds elite talent to this team right now. AFAIK, they’re not asking for 27. They want a 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Pick one going in to the 2023 season: Hopkins Whatever pick 27 will be You’d take Hopkins all day. Obviously try to get him for less but if that’s what the Cardinals want I’m doing it. Doing that means much more to your aging vets in a win now more then trusting the process with your 27th pick overall that will likely need 1 year to develop. So don’t scoff at trading 27. It should be available for ANY player that adds elite talent to this team right now. how about next years #1 Just now, FrenchConnection said: AFAIK, they’re not asking for 27. They want a 2nd. well then we offer a third and Kumerow LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: how about next years #1 well then we offer a third and Kumerow LOL Not next years - can’t do that. Too high a probability compared to the last 4 years with how tough the division is going to be we might not make the playoffs - odds of that are higher. We could be picking in the top 15-20 next year. Going in to last year zero doubt we were winning the division which is why our 2023 1st should have been on the table for a deal like we’re trying to make one year too late. At least Beane knows the cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 The trade will be official when this hits page 142. Book it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: AFAIK, they’re not asking for 27. They want a 2nd. Ok then what’s the hold up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 56 minutes ago, papazoid said: i'm just here to get to 200.....lol seriously, the bills are one WR2 from dominating dhop is just 1 year older than diggs. he is a legit superstar #1 WR give josh more time (OL) and 1 more weapon and lookout !!.....all the defense needs to do is get healthy this needs to be the year of the offense GO BILLS ! 11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Pick one going in to the 2023 season: Hopkins Whatever pick 27 will be You’d take Hopkins all day. Obviously try to get him for less but if that’s what the Cardinals want I’m doing it. Doing that means much more to your aging vets in a win now mode then trusting the process with your 27th pick overall that will likely need 1 year to develop. So don’t scoff at trading 27. It should be available for ANY player that adds elite talent to this team right now. You guys are like a breath of fresh air. Thank goodness other people get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: No way we can upgrade the offensive line in 2023 at this point. What we have now is what it's going to be, likely with a couple draft picks added into the mix. What's your preference for adding a true WR2? Right now the available options are Hopkins for Arizona's asking price, Jerry Jeudy for a 1st, or OBJ for whatever salary he's asking for. If reports are true that OBJ wants to play with Aaron Rodgers on the Jets that gives us just Hopkins and Jeudy as the available options. Unless you have someone else in mind? I believe Risner is still available? We could add him for less than the cap hit for Hopkins and still have our draft picks. I'm not really hight on OBJ, but again, could probably get him and still keep our picks. It may cost a 1st for Juedy, but he still has a year on his rookie deal if I remember correctly and he is probably better wr than what would be available in the draft to us.🤔 I was thinking Chark, but that option sailed. Personally, if I were Beane, I'd also reach out to the Colts and see if they are willing to part ways with Pittman. Seeing they were thinking of trading him to move up. MAYBE, there is something there? New regime, last year of his rookie deal and they got Pierce last draft. Maybe they could use an extra pick to move up to secure a qb (not get jumped), or maybe the new coach's flexibility with a new scheme? Just thinking outside the box here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Ok then what’s the hold up. Beane nickel and diming when there is currently no reason to do so. We know what we need, just get it and be done with it before it becomes a non sale. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: The trade will be official when this hits page 142. Book it Some prophet you are. You said 114 before. This is like those fellas who read the Book of Revelation and set a date for the end of the world. When it doesn't happen, they recalculate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Folks are speculating that Jeudy might not be available now because of an injury to KJ Hamler. I don't know. I said upthread, I think it was this thread, somewheres, that the higher the AZ price goes for Hopkins, the more Jeudy becomes a consideration (if he's available.) I think I’ve come to this conclusion too. Honestly too much noise. Last years with Von it was all about Chandler Jones, Chandler Jones then we swooped in and got a better player. I’m not saying Jeudy is better just more interesting to me being so much younger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Jeudy hasn’t proven much better than Davis. They had near identical stats last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: Jeudy hasn’t proven much better than Davis. They had near identical stats last year. I'd be mildly amused if it turns out you are related to Monti Ossenfort. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Some prophet you are. You said 114 before. This is like those fellas who read the Book of Revelation and set a date for the end of the world. When it doesn't happen, they recalculate. He's not recalculating. He's just using a base system other than 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: Jeudy hasn’t proven much better than Davis. They had near identical stats last year. D Hop last 2 years - 572 and 717 yards You do realise that the D Hop that’s available is the 2023 version right? We aren’t trading for 2018 D Hop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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