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Week 4: Bills at Ravens 10/2 1pm


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1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

 

Haha so we just signed OL Justin Murray and he is limited already? How fitting!

 

 

I would think being he just got off his couch and knows nothing of the scheme's, style and playbook they will have him loosen up today

and be glued to Coach West side.

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1 hour ago, Mango said:

 

We aren't benching marginally better 6th round rookie Christian Benford so that Elam can get experience. We aren't benching the player that is significantly better in Dane Jackson so that Elam can get experience. Especially without Hyde and a possibly still banged up interior DL. 

Elam will rotate in, but Dane Jackson isn't getting benched when Tre comes back. 

I agree. But I do think elam has a chance to win the starting job if he significantly outplays Dane this week (if Dane plays).  I could see whoever wins the job being subbed out for the other 1-2 drives per game.  

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1 hour ago, Mango said:

 

Right, so I can get behind that. If/when Elam is the better player he will start. It is certainly possible that happens at some point this year. This staff has made a career of sitting rookies forever in favor of vets regardless of draft position. Nobody is starting for "experience". They will only start because they are starters. 

I thinks it’s possible Dane starts again once he’s fully healthy, but Elam would be the first 1st round pick of the McBeane era to not be a starter his rookie year. If Elam keeps playing the way he did the last 2 weeks and gets into a rhythm, it’s gonna be hard to justify sitting the guy you drafted to be a the future at CB2 for a JAG.

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10 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

 

 

I thinks it’s possible Dane starts again once he’s fully healthy, but Elam would be the first 1st round pick of the McBeane era to not be a starter his rookie year. If Elam keeps playing the way he did the last 2 weeks and gets into a rhythm, it’s gonna be hard to justify sitting the guy you drafted to be a the future at CB2 for a JAG.

Are you saying that’s Benford or Jackson are JAG’s? The numbers and my eyes see different. Both of them have performed very well in their time on the field so far this year.

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2 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Are you saying that’s Benford or Jackson are JAG’s? The numbers and my eyes see different. Both of them have performed very well in their time on the field so far this year.

Levi Wallace also looked good in the Bills defense, but he was still very replaceable. Elam has been just as good as Dane/Benford and offers wayyyyy more upside.

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1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Elam played great. When White comes back Jackson is going to the bench. Elam needs experience so he is solid in the playoffs.

 

I can virtually guarantee you that even when Tre is back and ready to go, he won't be out there for every snap.  He's going to be worked in slowly so he can ramp himself up to full speed over a number of weeks.  I think we will still see plenty of Jackson, Elam, and Benford for quite a while to come.  The last thing we need is to just throw Tre back out there and overwork him, not just to protect his knee, but from other injuries as well.  No matter how hard he's been working out and will come out and practice, anyone that is injured like he was will be more susceptible to new injuries by coming back and playing too much too soon.  Long term health is the goal for Tre and being able to get the young kids more more important reps is going to be an added bonus.  This is all about the big picture and having as many guys healthy as possible to go out and win after game 17 is over.

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8 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Are you saying that’s Benford or Jackson are JAG’s? The numbers and my eyes see different. Both of them have performed very well in their time on the field so far this year.

 

I think what is being said is that the Bills defensive scheme minimizes player losses to as large a degree as possible by playing within a system that relies more on being in the proper position and great technique more than it does outstanding play.  The outstanding play like we get from White, Hyde and Poyer are like the cherry on top, that takes it from it's floor of 15th-17th ranked defense at it's worse to closer to it's ceiling, but even with average players the defense can still function at a relatively high level by it being more team-centric than player-centric. If that makes any sense...not sure if I explained it well enough from my point of view or not.

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40 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

 

 

I thinks it’s possible Dane starts again once he’s fully healthy, but Elam would be the first 1st round pick of the McBeane era to not be a starter his rookie year. If Elam keeps playing the way he did the last 2 weeks and gets into a rhythm, it’s gonna be hard to justify sitting the guy you drafted to be a the future at CB2 for a JAG.

 

My response was to the OP who said "Elam will start because he needs experience" (paraphrasing) I am saying that he won't start because he needs experience. McD has no issue keeping a rookie on the bench. As of the last game both Elam and Jackson played, Jackson was the better player. 

 

Elam will only start when he wins the job. 

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On 9/27/2022 at 1:41 AM, ColoradoBills said:

40K a week.  He gets a minimum of 3 games pay whether he's on the team or not.  A bit taken off for him leaving the PS.

 

Are you sure about this? Do you have a source for this info?

 

To be clear I am not arguing, but I don't see any logic why would he got paid for 3 games if he is only on roster for one, and so far Sportrac has only those $40k next to his name as dead money ($53k total, but those $13k were there before for some other reason).

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17 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Better than I thought it would be. I think all those Limited players will play on Sunday, along with Dawkins (probably remnants of playing in the heat) and of course Saffold and Miller.

 

I think Dion and Saffold earned their day off after playing 100% of the offensive snaps on Sunday.

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9 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

 

Are you sure about this? Do you have a source for this info?

 

To be clear I am not arguing, but I don't see any logic why would he got paid for 3 games if he is only on roster for one, and so far Sportrac has only those $40k next to his name as dead money ($53k total, but those $13k were there before for some other reason).

 

The 3-game rule is to limit teams from signing guys off the PS and dumping them after the game (like the Bills did).

I checked Spotrac and I see what you mean.  My guess is next week he gets another check and it goes up another $40k.

The NFL pays for game weeks.

 

https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/8/30/23325681/how-it-works-nfl-practice-squad-rules-eligibility-salary-and-more

If a practice squad player is signed to the active roster, he will receive a minimum of three weekly paychecks, even if he is released before spending three weeks with the new team.

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5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

The 3-game rule is to limit teams from signing guys off the PS and dumping them after the game (like the Bills did).

I checked Spotrac and I see what you mean.  My guess is next week he gets another check and it goes up another $40k.

The NFL pays for game weeks.

 

https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/8/30/23325681/how-it-works-nfl-practice-squad-rules-eligibility-salary-and-more

If a practice squad player is signed to the active roster, he will receive a minimum of three weekly paychecks, even if he is released before spending three weeks with the new team.

Ok thanks for the link. It makes sense that you said about Sportrac. I will keep on checking it :)

 

Btw, I need to correct myself, I checked my previous screenshot and Emili had $2,5k dead money before. So this week added $50,666.

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