Hurricane Season 2022 - Florida Now in the Bullseye

[Special K]

3 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Huh? They're not that different in size based on those pictures. The Charley picture is zoomed out more.

Say what you want about the picture, but the information is true....Our local meteorologist said this on the news.

 

Speaking as someone who lived through both storms, I can tell you that the core of Charley took about 30 minutes to pass over my area, whereas the core of Ian took over 30 hours to pass over my area.

[ExiledInIllinois]

55 minutes ago, Draconator said:

Syracuse actually gets more total snowfall per year than Buffalo on average. It's just we have those pesky Lake Effect snowbands that can dump 7ft of snow in a day and a half.  I was stranded at work for 3 days, 2 inches of snow, while my wife at home in Cheektowaga had the 7 feet. 

Yup.  But they don't consider snow a natural disaster.  It can be shoveled and it melts.

[ExiledInIllinois]

I guess snowstorms within reason... But in the grand scheme of things other natural disasters grossly outweigh a snowstorm.  And of course they are using a weighted scale when making these lists. Unless a tree falls through you're living room while your watching TV or your roof collapses... Given technology like modern vehicles with front wheel drive, banking apps, Direct Deposit, etc... Snowstorms have been mitigated much better in modern times.

 

Snow just spreads the pain and inconvenience out over a consistent time period: Winter.  A tornado,  wild fire, earthquake, hurricane will wipe you out in moments. 

 

The snowiest place on earth is on a North Island in Japan.  Somehow they live with it, thrive. Don't lose everything they have worked for. 

 

Just my $0.02.

Edited October 1, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[Special K]

4 hours ago, TBBills said:

I am glad someone said it, the pictures are not the same size.

 

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article266502671.html

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 minute ago, Special K said:

 

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article266502671.html

It's not the size of the wand, it's the magic in it. 😉 😏 

[TBBills]

57 minutes ago, Special K said:

 

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article266502671.html

Oh OK it's just eye wall comparison.  Made it seem like the whole hurricane.

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4 hours ago, TheCockSportif said:

the tiny bikini crowd started making an appearance by the hotel pool.

 

Pics?

[TheCockSportif]

31 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

Pics?

If only.  I was literally posing for a corporate picture, with like 200 people, the day after I got promoted, right by the pool.  But some time in the future, definitely.

[Draconator]

4 hours ago, TBBills said:

Oh OK it's just eye wall comparison.  Made it seem like the whole hurricane.

 

The way I took it. the entirety of Hurricane Charley would fit inside Ian's eye.

[TBBills]

2 hours ago, Draconator said:

 

The way I took it. the entirety of Hurricane Charley would fit inside Ian's eye.

After reading again it's the hurricane force winds of Charley can fit inside the eye of Ian. Charlie's hurricane force winds only extended 15 miles and the eye of Ian was 40 miles, Ian's hurricane force winds extended out 100 miles.

[muppy]

OH MY

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[ExiledInIllinois]

20 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

Why keep rebuilding?  Leave it and move to a safer location. People shouldn't live in flood plains and neither should they live in paths of storms.  The population growth is unsustainable. Florida needs to stop taking charity and passing their problems on to other more responsible areas. People walked out of the Dust Bowls in the 1930s, they can walk off the coasts in the 2020s. 

 

Maybe institute an income tax to fund their own clean ups... The north doesn't ask for snow removal money.

 

I am not trying to be mean, but the danger zones need to be more responsible.  The population growth is unsustainable and reckless in these places. Sure, some people can live there, but return the areas to how they handle these storms... As barriers. The incentives to move to these areas is reckless.  A premium needs to be charged for living in the path of destruction. Enough is enough.

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Why keep rebuilding?  Leave it and move to a safer location. People shouldn't live in flood plains and neither should they live in paths of storms.  The population growth is unsustainable. Florida needs to stop taking charity and passing their problems on to other more responsible areas. People walked out of the Dust Bowls in the 1930s, they can walk off the coasts in the 2020s. 

 

Maybe institute an income tax to fund their own clean ups... The north doesn't ask for snow removal money.

 

I am not trying to be mean, but the danger zones need to be more responsible.  The population growth is unsustainable and reckless in these places. Sure, some people can live there, but return the areas to how they handle these storms... As barriers. The incentives to move to these areas is reckless.  A premium needs to be charged for living in the path of destruction. Enough is enough.

Why would insurance companies even insure people living there? 

[Back2Buff]

5 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Why would insurance companies even insure people living there? 

 

Do they insure for natural disasters?  All I have heard is that you can't even get insurance in Florida in certain areas for things like hurricanes.

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Darwin would be proud:

 

https://www.wyff4.com/article/myrtle-beach-handstand-balcony-death-hurricane-ian/41543118

 

[TBBills]

2 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

Darwin would be proud:

 

https://www.wyff4.com/article/myrtle-beach-handstand-balcony-death-hurricane-ian/41543118

 

See not everything is bad.

On 10/3/2022 at 10:33 AM, Tiberius said:

Why would insurance companies even insure people living there? 

Insurance companies know what they are doing, don't you worry. They make money even in disasters.

[ExiledInIllinois]

The editor nailed it here... About the living in climate danger zones...

 

"Florida towns have a particularly strong incentive to rebuild, because the demand for beachside living is so potent. As the writer Michael Grunwald points out in The Atlantic, “Florida has always been about now, mine, more.” Longtime observers like him have little faith that Hurricane Ian will represent any kind of turning point for what he calls the “ecological Ponzi scheme” state.

 

If state and local government won’t check a rebuilding spree, then it’s probably up to the federal government to find ways to pump the brakes on certain types of coastal development. At some point, we’ll all grow tired of this sad, expensive movie. ... "

 

Not sure what the source is... You'd think my wife being an Admin Librarian would know better... But I don't want to take credit for this awesome hot take!

 

Whoever you are... I can't agree more!

 

"Ecological Ponzi Scheme"

 

So true!

Edited October 8, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[ExiledInIllinois]

On 10/3/2022 at 9:33 AM, Tiberius said:

Why would insurance companies even insure people living there? 

Because they can raise my homeowner's policy in Illinois, tell me some BS that my property is worth more.

 

Just like we're paying $50/month bucks in Summer for natural gas when all I got is one pilot light and the wife doesn't cook, or dry clothes... lol...  She uses the micro (attempting to cook, not dry clothes)... 😆  ...Thanx Texas for the reach-around. 😆 

 

Oh, I got Tampa's pride and joy: Progressive.  /WallBash... 

Edited October 8, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[TBBills]

All you are going to see is a better rebuild of what was destroyed. The circle of life. More delta version homes and structures that withstand higher winds along with raised elevation of said structures.

 

Disasters cost money but they also make way more money.

Edited October 8, 2022 by TBBills

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[Special K]

Here we freakin' go again!!!

 

In November!! Come on.

 

It isn't supposed to be too bad for inland areas where I am.....25-35 mph winds and 5 to 7 inches of rain.

 

But even that is too much for areas that are still flooded from Ian, not to mention the fact that the entire east coast of Florida is going to be just crushed by storm surge, 15-25 foot waves, and coastal flooding.

 

There are houses in the Daytona/New Symrna beach areas that are feet away from falling into the ocean due to coastal erosion from Ian....there is no way those houses will make it through this event. Just a complete shame for the state of Florida.

[T&C]

8 hours ago, Special K said:

Here we freakin' go again!!!

 

In November!! Come on.

 

It isn't supposed to be too bad for inland areas where I am.....25-35 mph winds and 5 to 7 inches of rain.

 

But even that is too much for areas that are still flooded from Ian, not to mention the fact that the entire east coast of Florida is going to be just crushed by storm surge, 15-25 foot waves, and coastal flooding.

 

There are houses in the Daytona/New Symrna beach areas that are feet away from falling into the ocean due to coastal erosion from Ian....there is no way those houses will make it through this event. Just a complete shame for the state of Florida.

The gusts will be higher though but yeah, last thing we need for sure. The track has shifted a bit north so it looks like, as of now, it is more headed your way instead of where Ian hit. Here is a great link to monitor things:  https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/weather/tropical

[Wacka]

Those sand piles remind me how Bufalo may look after the game Sunday with the possible snow.

[T&C]

59 minutes ago, Wacka said:

Those sand piles remind me how Bufalo may look after the game Sunday with the possible snow.

Maybe so but it's the real deal here, we don't need this one bit.

[ExiledInIllinois]

3 hours ago, T&C said:

Maybe so but it's the real deal here, we don't need this one bit.

Then don't live there... Population can't grow every year with people living in the face of danger.   There's always been these storms, just less people living in the teeth of them. 

 

My sister near Stuart evacuated,  she lives on boat and they cut power this morning... Floating docks may help. She went to Tampa to stay with her daughter.

[T&C]

27 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Then don't live there... Population can't grow every year with people living in the face of danger.   There's always been these storms, just less people living in the teeth of them. 

 

My sister near Stuart evacuated,  she lives on boat and they cut power this morning... Floating docks may help. She went to Tampa to stay with her daughter.

Lol... have the invasive eels swam up in to your innards? 

[Special K]

17 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Then don't live there... Population can't grow every year with people living in the face of danger.   There's always been these storms, just less people living in the teeth of them. 

 

 

 

As someone who has lived in Florida for almost my entire life, I can attest to the fact that there is too much overpopulation and overdevelopment in Florida, especially in the last 20 years.

 

However, the frequency of Hurricanes hitting the Central Fl area has gone wild in the last six years.

 

For example, between 1984 and 2004, zero hurricanes hit the Central Fl area. Then we had three hurricanes hit the area in the same year(Charley, Francis, Jeane). Then we had another 11 year stretch with no Hurricanes in the area.

 

Now since 2016, we have had 7 Hurricanes impact the Area.

 

So 3 in 32 years, as compared to 7 in 6 years. That’s either bad luck, global warming, or a combination of the two.

[BuffaloBud]

My sister lives in Jax Beach about 1 block from the beach.  She estimated that about 8feet of the dunes, that were rebuilt not too long ago, were washed away.

[Special K]

Pretty crazy......18 years apart, and in both years the two storms were 43-44 days apart!

 

[billsfanmiamioh]

Have been at Disney all week and this storm was nothing. 

[Special K]

58 minutes ago, billsfanmiamioh said:

Have been at Disney all week and this storm was nothing. 

 

Does this look like nothing to you?  

 

 

 

On 11/7/2022 at 11:59 PM, Special K said:

 

It isn't supposed to be too bad for inland areas where I am.....25-35 mph winds and 5 to 7 inches of rain.

 

 

 

They were a little off on their prediction for my area.....ended up with 5 inches of rain, but the winds were much stronger 50-60 mph with gusts to 70mph.

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