As Time Goes By More Truth Rises to the Top !

[T master]

These are the people that we put our trust in that made us think they cared about our well being as people under their leadership .

 

Yet here we are and it doesn't seem they have learned anything about what they have done looking back . I have read that the Dr. says he would institute stronger lock downs if he had to do it all over again and Joe well he just can't remember what he said & probably doesn't care .

 

The blind leading the blind !!

 

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/UhgzENOMzfPL/

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/cWFBGLn7RmFt/

[Brueggs]

I wish it were as simple as the blind leading the blind.  It appears to be ineptness, and they make it look that way on purpose, but its really the culmination of decades of methodical planning to destroy this country...and it appears to be working.  The majority of elected officials are just doing what they are told and being rewarded for it.  The welfare of the people is very low on their list, unfortunately.

[Tiberius]

Oh, the country is being destroyed? You should leave then 

[T master]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Oh, the country is being destroyed? You should leave then 

 

Well if those that said if Trump was elected would have left - yes the US would be a much better place but like you they choose to believe the BS .

 

Yes it is by a bunch of liars with a agenda !!

 

Seeing that i have posted this here & you will not call a spade a spade but continue to be as phony as those that lied about it all just shows your true character .

 

Which because of you allowing those lies to first be said with out the proof to back it up & now still believe in those that did lie tells us all that your character as a person is S**T .

 

If you like some of us here would at the very least when proof is either stated in black & white or a person is shown by video to be 1 either lying or 2 just not telling all the information to push a narrative then call it exactly what it is & stand up for what is actually truth we may think differently of you .

 

But with most every reply you continue to show us all that your character as a person is run by a narrative filled with bias & hatred rather than truth which in other words shows that you are a turd .

 

In layman terms just saying !! 

Edited July 27, 2022 by T master

[Tiberius]

ONLY FLORIDA REP TO VOTE NO — “20 Republicans, including Rep. Matt Gaetz, vote against anti-human trafficking bill,” by USA Today’s Ella Lee: “Twenty Republicans on Wednesday voted against legislation that would reauthorize programs to combat human trafficking. The bill, called the Frederick Douglass Trafficking Victims Prevention and Protection Reauthorization Act of 2022, passed the House by a tally of 401-20. It first became law in 2000 and saw almost no opposition from either party at the time. Florida GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz, who is reportedly himself under federal investigation for sex trafficking allegations involving a minor, was among the GOP members who voted ‘no’ on the bill.”

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

ONLY FLORIDA REP TO VOTE NO — “20 Republicans, including Rep. Matt Gaetz, vote against anti-human trafficking bill,” by USA Today’s Ella Lee: “Twenty Republicans on Wednesday voted against legislation that would reauthorize programs to combat human trafficking. The bill, called the Frederick Douglass Trafficking Victims Prevention and Protection Reauthorization Act of 2022, passed the House by a tally of 401-20. It first became law in 2000 and saw almost no opposition from either party at the time. Florida GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz, who is reportedly himself under federal investigation for sex trafficking allegations involving a minor, was among the GOP members who voted ‘no’ on the bill.”

Yes… Extremist idiots are bad 

 

you must likewise dislike AOC for voting against harming Putins oligarch buddies, right?

[SoCal Deek]

17 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

ONLY FLORIDA REP TO VOTE NO — “20 Republicans, including Rep. Matt Gaetz, vote against anti-human trafficking bill,” by USA Today’s Ella Lee: “Twenty Republicans on Wednesday voted against legislation that would reauthorize programs to combat human trafficking. The bill, called the Frederick Douglass Trafficking Victims Prevention and Protection Reauthorization Act of 2022, passed the House by a tally of 401-20. It first became law in 2000 and saw almost no opposition from either party at the time. Florida GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz, who is reportedly himself under federal investigation for sex trafficking allegations involving a minor, was among the GOP members who voted ‘no’ on the bill.”

Ah yes....the classic 'they voted no on this' nonsense.  You do realize that are often legitimate reasons why members on BOTH sides of the aisle vote no on a particular bill, right?  It could be that they don't think that the bill goes far enough. Or it could be that there are line items inserted in a specific that they believe should not be included, or might be harmful to their District.  As a member of a Board myself, I have often voted no on particular things on the agenda, even though I know that my vote is not going to change the outcome. Still, my fellow Board members know why I am voting the way that I do.  All Board members do this.

[T master]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Ah yes....the classic 'they voted no on this' nonsense.  You do realize that are often legitimate reasons why members on BOTH sides of the aisle vote no on a particular bill, right?  It could be that they don't think that the bill goes far enough. Or it could be that there are line items inserted in a specific that they believe should not be included, or might be harmful to their District.  As a member of a Board myself, I have often voted no on particular things on the agenda, even though I know that my vote is not going to change the outcome. Still, my fellow Board members know why I am voting the way that I do.  All Board members do this.

 

None of that makes sense to Tibs he's out to paint a picture that coincides with the agenda & as long as he can do that that's all that matters to him even if you have proof in the form of a in person video statement that still doesn't matter it's all about toting the company line for him & his cohorts .

 

If they can convince just 1 person or plant a seed of discontent in any way they feel they have succeeded to move their view forward & that's what truly matters .

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

27 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

ONLY FLORIDA REP TO VOTE NO — “20 Republicans, including Rep. Matt Gaetz, vote against anti-human trafficking bill,” by USA Today’s Ella Lee: “Twenty Republicans on Wednesday voted against legislation that would reauthorize programs to combat human trafficking. The bill, called the Frederick Douglass Trafficking Victims Prevention and Protection Reauthorization Act of 2022, passed the House by a tally of 401-20. It first became law in 2000 and saw almost no opposition from either party at the time. Florida GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz, who is reportedly himself under federal investigation for sex trafficking allegations involving a minor, was among the GOP members who voted ‘no’ on the bill.”

This is the dumb. 
 

Between fake outrage over trafficking, Gaetz “reportedly under investigation” with no sources listed and nothing beyond an arbitrary allegation, it borders on the absurd. 
 

When you consider the collectible decades of abuse, assault, death and agony that has happened on the watch of both political parties for decades—-amidst perpetual promises to fix the border by both sides with very little ever accomplished, it’s ridiculous. 
 

Less than a month ago, 53 people die a horrible death stuffed into a truck in an attempt to cross the border.  Outrage ensures.  Sadly it’s just another day in the life of people being victimized on both sides of the border and a whole lot of politicians getting paid.  
 

John McCain, for example, had himself a great life running the game in a border state and virtually nothing changes the entire time the Maverick ruled.   

[Tiberius]

34 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

This is the dumb. 
 

Between fake outrage over trafficking, Gaetz “reportedly under investigation” with no sources listed and nothing beyond an arbitrary allegation, it borders on the absurd. 
 

When you consider the collectible decades of abuse, assault, death and agony that has happened on the watch of both political parties for decades—-amidst perpetual promises to fix the border by both sides with very little ever accomplished, it’s ridiculous. 
 

Less than a month ago, 53 people die a horrible death stuffed into a truck in an attempt to cross the border.  Outrage ensures.  Sadly it’s just another day in the life of people being victimized on both sides of the border and a whole lot of politicians getting paid.  
 

John McCain, for example, had himself a great life running the game in a border state and virtually nothing changes the entire time the Maverick ruled.   

What’s dumb? The story? 

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Yes… Extremist idiots are bad 

 

you must likewise dislike AOC for voting against harming Putins oligarch buddies, right?

Oh, and Trump praising Putin? Trump having a business arraignment with him? 

[BillStime]

Truth rises to the top?

 

I figured this was another thread on the most corrupt administration in our lifetime.

 

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

Truth rises to the top?

 

I figured this was another thread on the most corrupt administration in our lifetime.

 

So you’re saying Trump was “The Big Guy”? I hadn’t heard that theory but it makes sense…I guess. 

[Doc]

There's nothing more corrupt than a 50+ year Congresscritter.  

[Brueggs]

On 7/27/2022 at 11:10 AM, Tiberius said:

Oh, the country is being destroyed? You should leave then 

I know you will try and maintain a position that we are all better off than we were a few years ago, in spite of reality, but not liking what your government is doing, and not liking your country are two very different things.  

Out of curiosity, are there any leftist talking points that you are not 100% on board with?  

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

Truth rises to the top?

 

I figured this was another thread on the most corrupt administration in our lifetime.

 

Do you see any corruption in the current administration? 

[Gene Frenkle]

On 7/27/2022 at 8:20 AM, T master said:

These are the people that we put our trust in that made us think they cared about our well being as people under their leadership .

 

Yet here we are and it doesn't seem they have learned anything about what they have done looking back . I have read that the Dr. says he would institute stronger lock downs if he had to do it all over again and Joe well he just can't remember what he said & probably doesn't care .

 

The blind leading the blind !!

 

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/UhgzENOMzfPL/

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/cWFBGLn7RmFt/

 

If you want to talk about trust, you should start with the echo chamber you live in.

[BillStime]

10 minutes ago, Brueggs said:

Do you see any corruption in the current administration? 

There is some level of corruption in EVERY administration… but Trump takes the cake.

 

Ever question why Trump “sold” his lease to his DC Hotel after he left the WH?

 

Ever question why Pompeo wouldn’t release the amount of money the Trump administration paid to Trump properties during his tenure right before the 2020 election?

 

Fool me once… 

 

 

[Buffarukus]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

There is some level of corruption in EVERY administration… but Trump takes the cake.

 

Ever question why Trump “sold” his lease to his DC Hotel after he left the WH?

 

Ever question why Pompeo wouldn’t release the amount of money the Trump administration paid to Trump properties during his tenure right before the 2020 election?

 

Fool me once… 

 

 

 

so when does it end? 

 

it certainly doesn't with current corruption being absolved by past. call it out now or don't ever say another word about it because you accept it as long as your team is the one doing it.

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

so when does it end? 

 

it certainly doesn't with current corruption being absolved by past. call it out now or don't ever say another word about it because you accept it as long as your team is the one doing it.

 

Four years versus 50.  Hmmm...

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

What’s dumb? The story? 

Oh, and Trump praising Putin? Trump having a business arraignment with him? 

I think it’s clear where you stand on him, I was asking about your stance on AOC

[BillStime]

9 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

so when does it end? 

 

it certainly doesn't with current corruption being absolved by past. call it out now or don't ever say another word about it because you accept it as long as your team is the one doing it.

When does it end? lmao

 

Are you a child?

 

Governments have been corrupt for centuries.

 

Maybe you should run for office and end it.

 

Good luck child 

[Buffarukus]

 

Just now, BillStime said:

When does it end? lmao

 

Are you a child?

 

Governments have been corrupt for centuries.

 

Maybe you should run for office and end it.

 

Good luck child 

 

so stop being so childish about trumps corruption. it just what they do and not sure why your bringing it up. 

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

so stop being so childish about trumps corruption. it just what they do and not sure why your bringing it up. 

 

Because it helps her to sleep at night fantasizing Joke and the rest of the Dems aren't completely corrupt.

[aristocrat]

 

Gonna be a heck of a spin on this one. 

[Doc]

Gotta keep the payments flowing...

[BillStime]

10 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

 

so stop being so childish about trumps corruption. it just what they do and not sure why your bringing it up. 

 

So it bothers you to be reminded about your bad choice - got it.  

 

What happened to free speech?  I will stop brining up Trump once the reality tv CON crawls back in is hole for good. Until then, our republic is under siege - and its definitely not Joe Biden (and his so called corruption - lmao) that is out to destroy our democracy and Constitution.

 

 

 

 

[Buffarukus]

8 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

So it bothers you to be reminded about your bad choice - got it.  

 

What happened to free speech?  I will stop brining up Trump once the reality tv CON crawls back in is hole for good. Until then, our republic is under siege - and its definitely not Joe Biden (and his so called corruption - lmao) that is out to destroy our democracy and Constitution.

 

 

 

 

 

say what? my bad choice? if it was a choice it was what 6 years ago. i dunno if you looked out the window or calendar there skippy but its 2022 and things are pretty dark. you want to say corruption is like the weather then go on to say but THIS corruption, this is different. yeah put your shield away pal. ill be more then happy to see trump thrown in a cage for any corruption, because im tired of it. while you simp off biden like you personally benefit from him.

 

there's a big difference between us. 

Edited July 28, 2022 by Buffarukus

[nedboy7]

Did you really put Tucker Carlson clips on and talk about the truth? 

 

 

Now comes the claim that you can't expect to literally believe the words that come out of Carlson's mouth. And that assertion is not coming from Carlson's critics. It's being made by a federal judge in the Southern District of New York and by Fox News's own lawyers in defending Carlson against accusations of slander. It worked, by the way.

Just read U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil's opinion, leaning heavily on the arguments of Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "

She wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."

Vyskocil, an appointee of President Trump's, added, "Whether the Court frames Mr. Carlson's statements as 'exaggeration,' 'non-literal commentary,' or simply bloviating for his audience, the conclusion remains the same — the statements are not actionable."

Vyskocil's ruling last week, dismissing a slander lawsuit filed against Carlson, was a win for Fox, First Amendment principles and the media more generally, as Fox News itself maintains. As a legal matter, the judge ruled that Karen McDougal, the woman suing Carlson, failed to surmount the challenge.

Edited July 28, 2022 by nedboy7

[nedboy7]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

There's nothing more corrupt than a 50+ year Congresscritter.  

 

How about a 5 time bankrupt lunatic who changed parties cause it's easier to run for the dumber party.  He was sent by GOD! 

28 minutes ago, Doc said:

Gotta keep the payments flowing...

 

Did you donate to Trump today.  You dont wanna be a traitor? 

 

A top GOP committee sent a message accusing supporters who hadn't donated of being traitors: 'You abandoned Trump.'

"You abandoned Trump," a text version of the message said. "We were told you were a tried & true, lifelong patriot."

"But when Trump said he'd run for President if we took back the House from Nancy Pelosi...You did nothing. Was Trump wrong about you?" the statement asked.

Edited July 28, 2022 by nedboy7

[Doc]

9 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

How about a 5 time bankrupt lunatic who changed parties cause it's easier to run for the dumber party.  He was sent by GOD! 

 

Did you donate to Trump today.  You dont wanna be a traitor? 

 

A top GOP committee sent a message accusing supporters who hadn't donated of being traitors: 'You abandoned Trump.'

"You abandoned Trump," a text version of the message said. "We were told you were a tried & true, lifelong patriot."

"But when Trump said he'd run for President if we took back the House from Nancy Pelosi...You did nothing. Was Trump wrong about you?" the statement asked.

 

Oh no, he declared bankruptcy!  Now you've got him... 

[nedboy7]

6 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Oh no, he declared bankruptcy!  Now you've got him... 

 

I heard he was a classy businessman his whole life.  Now donate traitor!  lol.

[Doc]

11 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

I heard he was a classy businessman his whole life.  Now donate traitor!  lol.

 

Who cares simp?  It's not my money, unlike what Joke's been doing.

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Buffarukus said:

 

say what? my bad choice? if it was a choice it was what 6 years ago. i dunno if you looked out the window or calendar there skippy but its 2022 and things are pretty dark. you want to say corruption is like the weather then go on to say but THIS corruption, this is different. yeah put your shield away pal. ill be more then happy to see trump thrown in a cage for any corruption, because im tired of it. while you simp off biden like you personally benefit from him.

 

there's a big difference between us. 

what corruption?

31 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Oh no, he declared bankruptcy!  Now you've got him... 

 

Who is the SIMP? 
 

Still defending him.

 

So MASC of you qDoc.

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

5 hours ago, Tiberius said:

What’s dumb? The story? 

Here's the Gaetz take on this bill:

 

“The government’s failure to define human trafficking precisely and specifically allows this law to serve as a backdoor loophole for illegal immigration and amnesty,” Getz’s spokesman, Joel Valdez, told USA Today. “The bill also costs more than half a billion dollars to implement and gives more taxpayer money to overfunded, inefficient grant programs.”

 

As I said earlier, if politicians and journalists were serious about addressing trafficking and victimization of people, we would not have the conditions that exist at the southern border.  So, these f***wits and their "let's pretend we're doing something" bill mean very little in the grand scheme of things.  The hypervigilant and intrepid reporter implying Matt Gaetz is pro-Trafficking is silly.  The "reportedly under investigation" is silly--is he, or isn't he?  Why not take a minute and include a statement that clarifies his position? 

 

Stupid across the board. 

[Brueggs]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

There is some level of corruption in EVERY administration… but Trump takes the cake.

 

Ever question why Trump “sold” his lease to his DC Hotel after he left the WH?

 

Ever question why Pompeo wouldn’t release the amount of money the Trump administration paid to Trump properties during his tenure right before the 2020 election?

 

Fool me once… 

 

 

I agree that there is some level of corruption in every administration, but it could easily be argued that the current administration is considerably more corrupt.  Trump was a businessman, and at least had some plausible conflicts of interest.  No other president I can recall was in a similar position.  

Can you honestly say that you don't believe that Biden has corrupt dealings in China and Ukraine?  His dealings were purely based in political influence and not pre-existing outside business.  If you don't see anything there, it could easily be argued that you have been fooled more than once...

[BillStime]

3 minutes ago, Brueggs said:

I agree that there is some level of corruption in every administration, but it could easily be argued that the current administration is considerably more corrupt.  Trump was a businessman, and at least had some plausible conflicts of interest.  No other president I can recall was in a similar position.  

Can you honestly say that you don't believe that Biden has corrupt dealings in China and Ukraine?  His dealings were purely based in political influence and not pre-existing outside business.  If you don't see anything there, it could easily be argued that you have been fooled more than once...

Biden very well could have dealings in China and Ukraine. 

 

Can you please document and share all of these corrupt dealings in China and Ukraine? Sources please.

 

And then we can compare all the corruption between the Conald and Joe.

 

If JOE Biden is doing anything illegal - indict him - no one is above the law.

 

 

[Brueggs]

1 hour ago, nedboy7 said:

Did you really put Tucker Carlson clips on and talk about the truth? 

 

 

Now comes the claim that you can't expect to literally believe the words that come out of Carlson's mouth. And that assertion is not coming from Carlson's critics. It's being made by a federal judge in the Southern District of New York and by Fox News's own lawyers in defending Carlson against accusations of slander. It worked, by the way.

Just read U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil's opinion, leaning heavily on the arguments of Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "

She wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."

Vyskocil, an appointee of President Trump's, added, "Whether the Court frames Mr. Carlson's statements as 'exaggeration,' 'non-literal commentary,' or simply bloviating for his audience, the conclusion remains the same — the statements are not actionable."

Vyskocil's ruling last week, dismissing a slander lawsuit filed against Carlson, was a win for Fox, First Amendment principles and the media more generally, as Fox News itself maintains. As a legal matter, the judge ruled that Karen McDougal, the woman suing Carlson, failed to surmount the challenge.

Do you feel the same way about all the commentators and politicians that promoted Russian collusion stories for years?  

[All_Pro_Bills]

13 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Biden very well could have dealings in China and Ukraine. 

 

Can you please document and share all of these corrupt dealings in China and Ukraine? Sources please.

 

And then we can compare all the corruption between the Conald and Joe.

 

If JOE Biden is doing anything illegal - indict him - no one is above the law.

 

 

You're wrong.  Washington uni-party establishment & perpetual war supporting politicians in good standing with the rich and powerful benefactors and rulers of the Empire are above the law.  And until they decide Joe needs to go, Mr. Biden, his family, and people under his protection, are above the law.

Edited July 28, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills

[BillStime]

22 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

You're wrong.  Washington uni-party establishment & perpetual war supporting politicians in good standing with the rich and powerful benefactors and rulers of the Empire are above the law.  And until they decide Joe needs to go, Mr. Biden, his family, and people under his protection, are above the law.

 

lmao - Trump proves your point nicely.

 

The most corrupt administration in our lifetime.

 

 

[Buffarukus]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

what corruption?

 

 

ill simply say this country is in the worst shape ive ever seen in my life. middle class is getting crushed under this president and you cant name a SINGLE thing that has gotten better under this administration cause you got duped into advocating every bit of it. lockdowns, vax lies, energy, russia. all of it. 

 

so of coarse theres nothing left but switch the topic with your buddies and talk about anything but what todays america looks like under your teams "leadership". theres a reason you fools are isolated in approval polls. smaller and smaller the flock is getting. now full blown recession. hurray. but, but, trump but did you see in 2018 he golfed alot!! yeah bankruptcy whatabout that??

 

carry on with your trump rants. throw your little meme down and move along. 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

20 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

lmao - Trump proves your point nicely.

 

The most corrupt administration in our lifetime.

 

 

You're point proves my point.  As you're correct, but not in the way you expect.  Trump is an outsider.  Therefore he is not protected.  So its open-season on anyone associated with that administration.  The last 5 years proves it.