Embedded Gabe Davis discusses new video on One Bills Drive Edit: New embedded pg. 4

[Warcodered]

6 minutes ago, Draconator said:

We have an American Staffordshire Terrior. Looks like a pitbull, barks like you would think a pitbull would bark, but not classified as a pitbull. 

 

I say to Riley on the regular, "Riley, leave the kitties alone". Then 10 minutes later he and 2 of the cats are asleep on our bed. He just turned 3 so in essence, he's a curious toddler. We wouldn't trade him for anything!

Some interesting history there apparently, they were essentially pit bulls that were split away from them in 1930s due name recognition shenanigans with the American Kenal Club and United Kenal Club.

[KDIGGZ]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

If you're truly interested in this topic, it might surprise you to learn there's no recognized 'pitbull' breed. It encompasses a range of canine subspecies, including but not limited to the American Pitbull Terrier which is likely the particular dog you're referring to. But it's also used to describe any mix of bulldog and terrier, or Staffordshire terrier, or American Bully etc etc so there exists a much larger number of dogs that will be described as a 'pitbull' than say Doberman Pinschers or Rottweilers or Cane Corsos. Hence it's statistically unsurprising that a majority of dog attacks are committed by dogs that can be described as pitbulls.

It's also unsurprising because the specific type Taiwan Jones is breeding are huge muscle-bound fighting dogs. You didn't even have to read the story about how they killed a dog to know it's not a good idea to breed them like that on purpose. It's just common sense and decency

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

It's also unsurprising because the specific type Taiwan Jones is breeding are huge muscle-bound fighting dogs. You didn't even have to read the story about how they killed a dog to know it's not a good idea to breed them like that on purpose. It's just common sense and decency

That's not what they were bred for originally. They're a working breed for livestock. Your issue is with irresponsible dog breeders, not pitbulls.

[jkeerie]

To get back on topic, I just watched the Embedded episode.  Really enjoyed it.   Davis, Lil Dirty, Knox and Singletary were featured in their off-season workouts.  Then really good timed workout competition during first OTA.

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[Warcodered]

7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

That's not what they were bred for originally. They're a working breed for livestock. Your issue is with irresponsible dog breeders, not pitbulls.

So breeds bred for Bull baiting are meant to work with livestock?

[Shaw66]

This is fun to watch.  

[KDIGGZ]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

That's not what they were bred for originally. They're a working breed for livestock. Your issue is with irresponsible dog breeders, not pitbulls.

Yes that might be the case. I fully concede that point which is why I think there at least should be more regulations. I don't think just anyone should be breeding these dogs especially when they are seemingly openly breeding them to be big strong muscular alphas because that's the cool thing to do. That's like playing with fire. In the Bills Embedded video Gabe has his other dog just walking around the neighborhood off leash. Does he do that with his other dog? Scary

[Rubes]

What the hell does any of this have to do with Edmunds and whether or not we should trade him or draft his replacement?

 

[GoBills808]

4 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

So breeds bred for Bull baiting are meant to work with livestock?

Yes.

[Mr. WEO]

4 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

This is fun to watch.  

 

It was even more fun 5 hours ago!

[MJS]

A lot of nonsense and fear mongering about pitbulls here.  Many dog breeds have high prey drive. Many breeds don't do well with other dogs. Many don't do well with children, for that matter. Yes, some breeds are naturally more aggressive than others too. As an owner, you have to understand your breed and know what you can and cannot do with them. You also have to understand body language and know how to prevent bad situations, and that goes for all breeds.

 

Everyone has a story. Stories don't mean anything.

[The Dean]

45 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

If you're truly interested in this topic, it might surprise you to learn there's no recognized 'pitbull' breed. It encompasses a range of canine subspecies, including but not limited to the American Pitbull Terrier which is likely the particular dog you're referring to. But it's also used to describe any mix of bulldog and terrier, or Staffordshire terrier, or American Bully etc etc so there exists a much larger number of dogs that will be described as a 'pitbull' than say Doberman Pinschers or Rottweilers or Cane Corsos. Hence it's statistically unsurprising that a majority of dog attacks are committed by dogs that can be described as pitbulls.

 

This

 

Reports by citizens (not officials) are notoriously suspect, from what I've read. People call all kinds of dogs "Pit Bulls".  

This is why I basically don't pay attention to exact breeds when it comes to attacks, and just think people shouldn't own dogs they are not able to handle. The more destructive the dog can be, the more responsibility the owner needs to assume.

[Seoulofstone]

Was not expecting a dog thread. Agree about Knox pinky looking concerning. Hopefully he never gets hit in the face by Josh.

[Last Guy on the Bench]

51 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

"That's what I do. You ever seen the Patriots vs. Isaiah McKenzie?"

😂

[Philo]

Wasn't expecting this to turn into a pitbull debate thread, but it sure beats another Breece Hall thread. 

[Warcodered]

16 minutes ago, Last Guy on the Bench said:

"That's what I do. You ever seen the Patriots vs. Isaiah McKenzie?"

😂

One of my favorite parts is when McKenzie told Davis about the new OT rules and his response was that he would have had 5 TDs.

 

That hand-eye drill McKenzie and Knox were doing seems awesome.

[Blank Stare]

Love those Embeddeds. They are so damn good. This one no different. 

[Punching Bag]

A neighbor had a pit bull named Dudley and at a party he bit a neighbor who said he was trying to keep dog away from child.  This dog slept in bed with child and showed not the least bit of aggressive nature to child even with child riding dog.  He put a complaint in and county had dog put to sleep against wishes of family. 

 

A few weeks later the child told parents about the visiting neighbor saying "Bad Man!" but they thought child was unhappy about lost of dog.  A relative came by during another gathering and was watching child; child was hiding in closet and told relative "Hide from Bad Man!"  With a bit of coaching got child to tell "Dudley saved me from Bad Man".  Relative told parents you need to get a child psychologist to work with child. 

 

Child psychologist worked with child enough to call police on matter.  Police said they could not do anything but the neighbor has been accused of violating children before but no arrests or courts.  The visitor was prohibited from visiting anymore.  A few months later he was arrested on multiple accounts including child endangerment with a child he babysat and after a search warrant child pornography including pictures of several neighborhood children. 

 

Not a bad dog.  Bad Man should have been one put to sleep not dog but society rules are sometimes wrong.

[Jerome007]

I'm a dog lover. Except for poodles and small girlie dogs ha ha... and pitbulls. 

 

I had a Latina friend with one she called her baby and all that jazz, posting cute pics and all. I once went to pick her up and she was outside, with the dog, having it taking a piss. I noticed her but not the dog (I wonder why ha ha). That dog went berserk at me and she had to hold the leash with two hands and exert all her strength. She told me later it's because of how I reacted... Again I didn't even notice it at first, and I was still far from her. And it was in a dense city block, not in an out of the way house with no people ever coming bye. 

 

Pit owners are delusional. Owning a dangerous animal is NOT a right!