A Breakdown of the 31 yard run by Damien Harris

[HoofHearted]

Patriots are running Counter Trey here - pulling the backside Guard to kick and H-Back to wrap up to the inside backer. Every other offensive lineman (other than the backside Tackle) are blocking down on the first DL to their right. The backside Tackle is scooping to the 3 tech to that they can read the backside end (Rousseau). Bills get caught in their 1 Rat Coverage (Man Free).

 

The root of the issue here is how they plan on treating an H-Back across the formation post-snap. There doesn't appear to be any trade rules in place based on how Taron Johnson is playing the H across as he's looking to following him across the field which ultimately leaves the Bills a guy short in the box. Hughes does a good job of getting to heel line, squeezing, and then leveraging the kick. Milano does not do a very good job of getting downhill to fit tight off the tackle and meet the H-back at the heel line which allows Harris room and time to find the cutback. Tremaine does a good job scraping with the pulling guard, but needs to take a slightly more downhill path to meet the tackle, who ends up working up to the second level, closer to the LoS. He HAS to fit outside of the Tackle that works up to him. Harrison Phillips gets completely stood up and then washed out of the play which is what ultimately opens up the cutback lane that Taron Johnson should fill.

 

Dane Jackson gets caught in no mans land as well (and it looks really bad on film), but he's playing man coverage on the outside receiver. Since that receiver is responsible for blocking Taron and he runs across the formation the receiver follows him all the way across which makes Dane have to follow him assuming he's running some type of shallow cross. Our ultimate cut-back defender (Poyer) isn't visible on the broadcast angle so I can't tell what hung him up, but I would guess he got caught with bad eyes.

 

Really good scheme for what we had dialed up defensively on this play. If we'd been sitting in our "soft zone" 🤣 3 high coverages like we usually do on 1st Down this would have been a 3 yard gain as Taron would have been sitting right there for the cutback.

Counter Trey

What the run fits should have looked like.

Edited December 27, 2021 by HoofHearted

[eee1776]

49 Over ran the play

[Mike in Horseheads]

Nice breakdown and interesting to point out that if we ran our usual coverage Taron johnsin would have been standing there. 

[oldmanfan]

The team over pursued.  

[Freddie's Dead]

TLDR.  Paragraphs help.  Please explain your jargon so a person who doesn't know WTF "1 Rat Coverage (Man Free)" is might understand WTF you're talking about.  Also, 49 overran the play 

Edited December 27, 2021 by Freddie's Dead

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

TLDR.  Paragraphs help.  Please explain your jargon so a person who doesn't know WTF "1 Rat Coverage (Man Free)" is might understand WTF you're talking about. 

Google it baby!

2 hours ago, HoofHearted said:

Patriots are running Counter Trey here - pulling the backside Guard to kick and H-Back to wrap up to the inside backer. Every other offensive lineman (other than the backside Tackle) are blocking down on the first DL to their right. The backside Tackle is scooping to the 3 tech to that they can read the backside end (Rousseau). Bills get caught in their 1 Rat Coverage (Man Free).

 

The root of the issue here is how they plan on treating an H-Back across the formation post-snap. There doesn't appear to be any trade rules in place based on how Taron Johnson is playing the H across as he's looking to following him across the field which ultimately leaves the Bills a guy short in the box. Hughes does a good job of getting to heel line, squeezing, and then leveraging the kick. Milano does not do a very good job of getting downhill to fit tight off the tackle and meet the H-back at the heel line which allows Harris room and time to find the cutback. Tremaine does a good job scraping with the pulling guard, but needs to take a slightly more downhill path to meet the tackle, who ends up working up to the second level, closer to the LoS. He HAS to fit outside of the Tackle that works up to him. Harrison Phillips gets completely stood up and then washed out of the play which is what ultimately opens up the cutback lane that Taron Johnson should fill.

 

Dane Jackson gets caught in no mans land as well (and it looks really bad on film), but he's playing man coverage on the outside receiver. Since that receiver is responsible for blocking Taron and he runs across the formation the receiver follows him all the way across which makes Dane have to follow him assuming he's running some type of shallow cross. Our ultimate cut-back defender (Poyer) isn't visible on the broadcast angle so I can't tell what hung him up, but I would guess he got caught with bad eyes.

 

Really good scheme for what we had dialed up defensively on this play. If we'd been sitting in our "soft zone" 🤣 3 high coverages like we usually do on 1st Down this would have been a 3 yard gain as Taron would have been sitting right there for the cutback.

Counter Trey

What the run fits should have looked like.

Awesome breakdown and things we need more of 

[Freddie's Dead]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Google it baby!

 

I did.  The sites that came up used even more impenetrable jargon.

[HoofHearted]

6 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

TLDR.  Paragraphs help.  Please explain your jargon so a person who doesn't know WTF "1 Rat Coverage (Man Free)" is might understand WTF you're talking about.  Also, 49 overran the play 

Appreciate the advice. The wall of text is absolutely overwhelming. I explain 1 Rat Coverage in a little more detail here (sorry for the wall of text again).

[Beast]

2 hours ago, eee1776 said:

49 Over ran the play

 

The RB had an easy read. No matter what Edmunds did or didn't do, that was a big gainer. JMO.

[LeGOATski]

I would say Dane had bad eyes here too. Even though he's following his man, he has to recognize the run and locate the ball. Harris is already coming through the hole as Dane comes across the formation and he is extremely late to react.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

14 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

TLDR.  Paragraphs help.  Please explain your jargon so a person who doesn't know WTF "1 Rat Coverage (Man Free)" is might understand WTF you're talking about.  Also, 49 overran the play 

You know, not all of those who visit here are like you and me, the Otters and Storks of this Animal House. 🤨😉😁

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, eee1776 said:

49 Over ran the play

 

 

What he didn't do is recognize the potential cut back coming.........and that's a feel/instinct thing.

 

Edmunds doesn't make plays because he lacks to ability to process and anticipate.........he's the embodiment of checker player at MLB.

 

That hokey-pokey he played with the Pats RB in pass pro where the scrub just ran a circle around him allowing feeble Mac to hit him for a first down was another Edmunds gem.

 

If he had the instincts of AJ Klein he'd be an NFLDPOY candidate.

[HoofHearted]

2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I would say Dane had bad eyes here too. Even though he's following his man, he has to recognize the run and locate the ball. Harris is already coming through the hole as Dane comes across the formation and he is extremely late to react.

Can't play man without having man eyes - his eyes are on his guy and nowhere else as they should be. With all the RPO game now if he peaks in the backfield he's beat in man coverage. They essentially "ran him off" like when a receiver will just run a vertical to take the DB out of the play. He did what he was suppose to do - the front 7 just has to do their job.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

11 minutes ago, HoofHearted said:

Appreciate the advice. The wall of text is absolutely overwhelming. I explain 1 Rat Coverage in a little more detail here (sorry for the wall of text again).

Knowledgeable people gotta knowledge.  You're a nice change from the troglodytes and jokers normally residing here.

Signed,

Second most egregious joker.

Edited December 27, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[HoofHearted]

2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

What he didn't do is recognize the potential cut back coming.........and that's a feel/instinct thing.

 

Edmunds doesn't make plays because he lacks to ability to process and anticipate.........he's the embodiment of checker player at MLB.

 

That hokey-pokey he played with the Pats RB in pass pro where the scrub just ran a circle around him allowing feeble Mac to hit him for a first down was another Edmunds gem.

 

If he had the instincts of AJ Klein he'd be an NFLDPOY candidate.

If he plays the cutback then there is no cutback, and the play runs as it was designed to. Everyone has a role in run defense. You have a gap assignment on every single call, and if you don't fit your gap or have two guys in one gap you get gashed. Expecting a player to be responsible for two gaps is asinine. 

[Rochesterfan]

2 hours ago, eee1776 said:

49 Over ran the play

 

11 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

TLDR.  Paragraphs help.  Please explain your jargon so a person who doesn't know WTF "1 Rat Coverage (Man Free)" is might understand WTF you're talking about.  Also, 49 overran the play 

 

See - this is an issue - watching the actual play Edmund did not overrun the play.  He fills his gap with the tackle.  
 

The issue is at the snap Johnson is moving to the middle of the field and he runs passed Edmunds - even with the WR coming down to block.  The gap that was run through was his gap.  
 

When the WR looked to block down - then Dane Jackson playing a tail technique- should have been the fill - he was the unblocked defender led right to the hole by the WR.  He recognized it to late and was passed.  
 

The front did fine - especially playside, but Phillips held up, but was moved enough to open the backside hole and the 2 CBs in Johnson and Jackson took themselves out of the play.  
 

They preach one of 11 and then when the guy covers his hole and allows a cut back - he gets blamed by people that have no idea what they are watching.

 

Yes it would have been great if both Milano and Edmunds attacked that harder and faster and maybe closed down the holes a bit tighter or if Phillips had driven down into his block and not allowed the hole to open.  If Edmunds had pursued less and been in the hole Damien eventually went through - a different hole would have been right where Edmunds was and the tackle would of had an easy block on Edmunds and Johnson. 
 

 

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, HoofHearted said:

Can't play man without having man eyes - his eyes are on his guy and nowhere else as they should be. With all the RPO game now if he peaks in the backfield he's beat in man coverage. They essentially "ran him off" like when a receiver will just run a vertical to take the DB out of the play. He did what he was suppose to do - the front 7 just has to do their job.

I'm not buying that at all. 1. The defense communicates "run" and sometimes even who has the ball while the play is going on and 2. Harris is in Dane's field of vision as the play unfolds. They have to be communicating effectively and Dane has to be more aware so that he's not so easily taken out of the play. If he has tunnel vision on his man, then he has "bad eyes." The play is in front of him like it is for the safety.

 

A receiver running a vertical that turns a DB's eyes away from the play is totally different.

[Freddie's Dead]

13 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

You know, not all of those who visit here are like you and me, the Otters and Storks of this Animal House. 🤨😉😁

 

What the hell we 'sposed to do, ya MOW-RON?

[NewEra]

I thought edmunds played a solid game. 

[Freddie's Dead]

22 minutes ago, HoofHearted said:

Appreciate the advice. The wall of text is absolutely overwhelming. I explain 1 Rat Coverage in a little more detail here (sorry for the wall of text again).

 

You lost me at 3, 5, 9 technique.  Nice try, but I'm at ABC level in my analysis.  My Edmunds and Ford reports are See Spot Run, while your breakdown is Ulysses.