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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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2 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

I would bet money most of her supporters couldn't find it.  I'd also bet Trump couldn't either.

 

No lib could, or cared about it until we found out Hunter landed a job there and dad fired a prosecutor looking into the company...

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11 hours ago, Doc said:

 

No lib could, or cared about it until we found out Hunter landed a job there and dad fired a prosecutor looking into the company...


I guess you forgot that Russia actually invaded Ukraine. You know that big war thing that caused people to pay attention to Ukraine?
 

Libs by and large don’t care about Hunter Biden. 

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12 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


I guess you forgot that Russia actually invaded Ukraine. You know that big war thing that caused people to pay attention to Ukraine?
 

Libs by and large don’t care about Hunter Biden. 

Ironic how that happened right when western coup replaced actual votes on,  Ukrainian representation.  

 

Not so much since.  

 

Crimea did have at least one election since. 

 

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33 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

I guess you forgot that Russia actually invaded Ukraine. You know that big war thing that caused people to pay attention to Ukraine?
 

Libs by and large don’t care about Hunter Biden. 

 

No, didn't forget at all.  It was a war that wouldn't have happened under Trump. 

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I guess they should of taken the bi-partisan deal that was negotiated. Of course they just don't want the border fixed

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/20/house-vote-ukraine-israel-aid-johnson/#link-YI2FZDL7ERDU5KUUZTXUKCLZTE

 

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) accused Speaker Mike Johnson of “colluding” with Democrats to prioritize foreign aid over securing the Southern border.

“To send $100 billion overseas without reinforcing our own borders shows that we put America last,” Massie told reporters Saturday outside the House chamber. He has signed onto Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s plan to depose Johnson.

 

 

 

They can talk to each other, or go sit in the bathroom, f them 

 

Hard-line GOP members not getting ‘floor time’ to speak

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By Marianna Sotomayor

Congressional reporter covering the House of Representatives

If you’ve been watching the debate on the House floor today, you probably haven’t seen many far-right members present their perspective against the plan presented by Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.). That’s by design.

According to several Republicans, those members have been prevented from receiving “floor time” to speak because of overwhelming opposition from the conference.

House Republicans and Democrats both made impassioned pleas to support Ukraine, highlighting the war crimes of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“Without our help, a democracy is certain to fall to a murderous, Marxist, socialist dictator,” Rep. Chuck Edwards (R-N.C.) said, adding, “My ears have heard the numerous testimonies of unthinkable acts by the Russian military.”

Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), the former speaker of the House, didn’t mince words in describing those atrocities.

“Vladimir Putin has instructed his troops to use rape, kidnapping and murder in front of family members as a weapon of war to demoralize the people of Ukraine,” she said.

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4 hours ago, Doc said:

 

No, didn't forget at all.  It was a war that wouldn't have happened under Trump. 

 

Trump Derangement Syndrome. When Trump is to blame for everything.

 

Trump Derangement Syndrome. When everything good happens because of Trump.

 

It's easy to determine which of these delusions is most comfortable to you.

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54 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

Trump Derangement Syndrome. When Trump is to blame for everything.

 

Trump Derangement Syndrome. When everything good happens because of Trump.

 

It's easy to determine which of these delusions is most comfortable to you.

 

Putin invaded under Obama and Biden.  He didn't under Trump. 

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7 hours ago, ChiGoose said:


I guess you forgot that Russia actually invaded Ukraine. You know that big war thing that caused people to pay attention to Ukraine?
 

Libs by and large don’t care about Hunter Biden. 

Russia's done it twice, under both Obama and Biden

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3 hours ago, Pokebball said:

Russia's done it twice, under both Obama and Biden


Yeah, turns out that Russia is a revanchist anti-democratic country with a desire to destroy the west. 
 

Remember when Mitt Romney correctly called Obama out for his Russia reset? Or when McCain and Congress had to push back against the Obama administration to pass the Magnitsky Act?

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3 hours ago, Pokebball said:

Russia's done it twice, under both Obama and Biden

 

Ukraine is paying the price for Obama's spinelessness in Syria (I remember Putin rolling tanks ove Obama's red lines).  Ditto Crimea.

 

You can't blame Russia for thinking Obama's VP would act in the same fashion, especially given how fractious our domestic politics are right now.

 

The only reason why Ukraine still exists is because Russia thought this would be Crimea, Part II and planned accordingly. 

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