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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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Don't forget the hostage being held by Iran's other partner. Maybe Trump can talk to his buddy Putin to get this guy free 

 

https://apnews.com/article/russia-american-journalist-gershkovich-708c4115e819c41fd0f285f743f6b11d

 

MOSCOW (AP) — A court in Moscow on Tuesday extended the detention of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich, arrested on espionage charges, until Jan. 30, Russian news agencies reported.

The hearing took place behind closed doors because authorities say details of the criminal case against the American journalist are classified.

Gershkovich, 32, was detained in March while on a reporting trip to the Russian city of Yekaterinburg, about 2,000 kilometers (1,200 miles) east of Moscow. Russia’s Federal Security Service alleged that the reporter, “acting on the instructions of the American side, collected information constituting a state secret about the activities of one of the enterprises of the Russian military-industrial complex.”

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Don't forget the hostage being held by Iran's other partner. Maybe Trump can talk to his buddy Putin to get this guy free 

 

https://apnews.com/article/russia-american-journalist-gershkovich-708c4115e819c41fd0f285f743f6b11d

 

MOSCOW (AP) — A court in Moscow on Tuesday extended the detention of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich, arrested on espionage charges, until Jan. 30, Russian news agencies reported.

The hearing took place behind closed doors because authorities say details of the criminal case against the American journalist are classified.

Gershkovich, 32, was detained in March while on a reporting trip to the Russian city of Yekaterinburg, about 2,000 kilometers (1,200 miles) east of Moscow. Russia’s Federal Security Service alleged that the reporter, “acting on the instructions of the American side, collected information constituting a state secret about the activities of one of the enterprises of the Russian military-industrial complex.”

They already got the arms dealer for the basketball player.

 

Biden don't care about that reporter/spy or the other guy in the Russian prison for pot.

 

 

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lol, Daily Kos

 

Daily Kos (/koʊz/ KOHZ) is a group blog and internet forum focused on the U.S. Democratic Party and progressive[1] liberal American politics.[2][3] The site publishes blog posts,[4] polls,[5] election and campaign fundraising data

 

Bias Rating: LEFT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA
Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY

 

Daily Kos - Bias and Credibility - Media Bias/Fact Check (mediabiasfactcheck.com)

 

If your going to talk propaganda

 

 

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2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

lol, Daily Kos

 

Daily Kos (/koʊz/ KOHZ) is a group blog and internet forum focused on the U.S. Democratic Party and progressive[1] liberal American politics.[2][3] The site publishes blog posts,[4] polls,[5] election and campaign fundraising data

 

Bias Rating: LEFT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA
Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY

 

Daily Kos - Bias and Credibility - Media Bias/Fact Check (mediabiasfactcheck.com)

 

If your going to talk propaganda

 

 

Says the guy that posts Pizzagate Poso when he says something you like.  Facts are facts.  There is a ton happening that isn't being reported by standard media, a lot within Russia. 

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3 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Yawn.  You post insanity from insane sources when it suits but call out a source for being left leaning.   Laughable.   

 

 

yes, your attempted insults and strawmen are laughable.

 

the fact is that site referenced, is not even close to news and is just propaganda.

 

But it supports what you wanna hear, so hold it tight and fight anyone who calls it out.

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

yes, your attempted insults and strawmen are laughable.

 

the fact is that site referenced, is not even close to news and is just propaganda.

 

But it supports what you wanna hear, so hold it tight and fight anyone who calls it out.

 

 

 

 

What insult?  You cite one of the worst propagandists on the internet.  Not an insult, a fact.  Proven by his disproven insane conspiracies, not that you care of course.  I mean you can forgive a journalist making a mistake, you really shouldnt forgive insanity.

 

That site is garbage.  But they still reported a fact- which is now being reported by many other outlets.  Mainstream news is behind on almost all aspects of this war.  Russian citizens are becoming the best sources for news.  Sifting through what's real or not is a challenge.

 

Did you know that there have been many acts of terrorism/sabotage within Russia?  Very few have received media coverage.  There are videos to back them up if you look hard enough.

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

What insult?  You cite one of the worst propagandists on the internet.  Not an insult, a fact.  Proven by his disproven insane conspiracies, not that you care of course.  I mean you can forgive a journalist making a mistake, you really shouldnt forgive insanity.

 

That site is garbage.  But they still reported a fact- which is now being reported by many other outlets.  Mainstream news is behind on almost all aspects of this war.  Russian citizens are becoming the best sources for news.  Sifting through what's real or not is a challenge.

 

Did you know that there have been many acts of terrorism/sabotage within Russia?  Very few have received media coverage.  There are videos to back them up if you look hard enough.

 

 

 

 

Do you realize how many times that site was wrong.  From the constant reports on the surges progress to the ghost of kiev.  

 

It's war propaganda from a shady site with almost no controls 

 

And yes.  Our media doesn't highlight the Ukraine work in Russia that much.  

 

But will report on the Russian response. 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Do you realize how many times that site was wrong.  From the constant reports on the surges progress to the ghost of kiev.  

 

It's war propaganda from a shady site with almost no controls 

 

And yes.  Our media doesn't highlight the Ukraine work in Russia that much.  

 

But will report on the Russian response. 

 

 

I dont give 2 shites about the site, are you not comprehending?  They are correct here, that's all that matters.  Plenty other sources picked this up today.

 

And again, your hypocrisy astounds.  The Pizzagate guy is good enough for you lol.  

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22 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

I dont give 2 shites about the site, are you not comprehending?  They are correct here, that's all that matters.  Plenty other sources picked this up today.

 

And again, your hypocrisy astounds.  The Pizzagate guy is good enough for you lol.  

Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. 

 

Seems it's still being determined if he was in a vehicle, walking or was killed by his own men.  

 

 

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Reduce legal immigration? That's really stupid. But that's MAGA 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/29/trump-ukraine-senate-republicans-border/

 

Sen. Thom Tillis wants you to know that he’s very “reasonable.” That’s the word the North Carolina Republican used with reporters this week while describing immigration reforms that the GOP is demanding from Senate Democrats in exchange for supporting the billions in Ukraine aid that President Biden wants.

But the demands from Tillis and his fellow Republican leading the talks, Sen. James Lankford of Oklahoma, are not reasonable at all — they’re following Donald Trump’s playbook. Under the guise of seeking more “border security,” they’re insisting on provisions that would reduce legal immigration in numerous ways that could even undermine the goal of securing the border.

According to Democratic sources familiar with the negotiations, Republican demands began to shift soon after the New York Times reported that in a second Trump term, he would launch mass removals of millions of undocumented immigrants, gut asylum seeking almost entirely, and dramatically expand migrant detention in “giant camps.”

As one Senate Democratic source told me, Republicans started acting as though Trump and his immigration policy adviser Stephen Miller were “looking over their shoulders.”

 

Biden has asked Congress to provide tens of billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine and Israel and an additional $14 billion to buttress the southern border with new law enforcement agents, expanded detention and other increased security measures. But Republicans won’t agree to that latter request — or the Ukraine aid — without substantial changes to immigration policy as well.

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According to Democratic sources familiar with the negotiations, Republican demands began to shift soon after the New York Times reported that in a second Trump term, he would launch mass removals of millions of undocumented immigrants, gut asylum seeking almost entirely, and dramatically expand migrant detention in “giant camps.”

As one Senate Democratic source told me, Republicans started acting as though Trump and his immigration policy adviser Stephen Miller were “looking over their shoulders.”

 

Biden has asked Congress to provide tens of billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine and Israel and an additional $14 billion to buttress the southern border with new law enforcement agents, expanded detention and other increased security measures. But Republicans won’t agree to that latter request — or the Ukraine aid — without substantial changes to immigration policy as well.

 

So, what are these changes the GOP is looking for?  article kind of lacks details or a source.

 

Biden has asked Congress to provide tens of billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine and Israel and an additional $14 billion to buttress the southern border with new law enforcement agents, expanded detention and other increased security measures.

 

 

Seems hypocritical to request more for Ukraine's border, than ours.

 

just saying

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Tommy Callahan said:

Stay mad.  Find a mirror 

Not mad, just pointing out the truth of your inspired ignorance. 

 

Your lack of any substance represents MAGA well 

 

You are no different than @B-Man and the rest of the ignorant angry clowns around here 

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6 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said:

How does Yellen even have anything at all to do with this? Why would someone even seek out her opinion. Might as well report on what Taylor Swift thinks of the subject. 

The team in Washington sees this discourse over linking border security funds with funds for Ukraine as a potential "off ramp" for their do whatever is necessary for as long as it takes pledge.  If the definition of victory is returning all provinces in the hands of the Russians back to Ukraine they know the war is already lost and the funding fight is an opportunity to deflect blame and accountability for the outcome.  That's why everybody, including Yellen, is speaking out on the topic.  When Zelensky is forced to the negotiating table they'll blame Mike Johnson.  Who cares if the majority of Americans support what Johnson is doing as they also want enhanced border security and an accounting of the funds already sent to Ukraine.    

 

What Ukraine needs more than anything is effective combat units on the ground.  None of their benefactors are going to provide that resource. 

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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

 

 

What Ukraine needs more than anything is effective combat units on the ground.  None of their benefactors are going to provide that resource. 

Better air resources would be better. Drones, anti-drone measures, anti-missile systems and F-16's. They have ground troops. 

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