TH3 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 20 hours ago, T&C said: Once again, justice was served... I couldn't imagine this one going any other way. It did go the other way….read the original DA review of the case and his characterization of Arbery. It was only after the video was leaked and the case kicked through multiple DA’s that these guys were indicted. Everyone patting themselves on the back that justice was served…..only by sheer luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Bottom line they were racists that murdered someone for no other apparent reason than their own personal hatred of a person of color they at the very least deserve to be in prison with no chance what so ever of bail & if they decide to appeal that should be immediately turned down . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I am happy the two are going to jail, hopefully forever, but I did question the third guy and once his video is why this trial happened. I read he never touched Arbery, which makes his involvement different but maybe I missing something big with the video taker? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 was Arbery really jogging or was he stealing? (not that it justifies murdering him). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 29 minutes ago, Beach said: was Arbery really jogging or was he stealing? (not that it justifies murdering him). There is no evidence he stole anything. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 The father did not pull the trigger but he was the ring leader most responsible for the end result. I do feel sorry for the 3rd man who filmed what happened, that evidence was critical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Beach said: was Arbery really jogging or was he stealing? (not that it justifies murdering him). I'm not sure but I believe he was walking around a house that was being built. All you have to do is call the police and report it you don't need to get in you truck and hunt a man down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 2:29 PM, Mr. K said: I'm not sure but I believe he was walking around a house that was being built. All you have to do is call the police and report it you don't need to get in you truck and hunt a man down. Unless, of course, your name is Kyle ... then you can pretend to be a medic and waltz around a protest with an AR-15 and not expect to elicit a reaction or suspicion... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Unless, of course, your name is Kyle ... then you can pretend to be a medic and waltz around a protest with an AR-15 and not expect to elicit a reaction or suspicion... I see. So in your twisted mind the appropriate reaction for ordinary, peaceful citizens is to attempt to beat a guy to death in the middle of the street? Good to know! PS: You are a moron and the Kyle story just isn't working for you or anyone else. You were lied to. Give it up. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I see. So in your twisted mind the appropriate reaction for ordinary, peaceful citizens is to attempt to beat a guy to death in the middle of the street? Good to know! PS: You are a moron and the Kyle story just isn't working for you or anyone else. You were lied to. Give it up. lol - oh you’re fierce tonight… lmao Funny how narratives apply in some situations and not others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Unless, of course, your name is Kyle ... then you can pretend to be a medic and waltz around a protest with an AR-15 and not expect to elicit a reaction or suspicion... Let me shed a tear for women beating, pedophiles, who were destroying a city getting put down for trying to kill a kid who was on video helping people up until people were attacking him. Shouldn't have been there.... neither should the people committing arson. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 59 minutes ago, BillStime said: lol - oh you’re fierce tonight… lmao Funny how narratives apply in some situations and not others. Fierce? Get over yourself and your amateurish attempts to ‘trigger’ the adults. I’ll go back to my glass of Cab while enjoying a spectacular sunset in warm Southern California. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 So dumb. The first dead dude was committing crimes that night. He was only "suspicious" that KR would thwart his next criminal act and the action KR elicited from him got him killed. But again, he tried to kill himself so I guess KR did him a favor. The other dead dude decided to play whack-a-guywithanAR-15 and found out the hard way that that was pretty stupid. Thankfully they both died that night and didn't end up on life support so C3's insurance premiums wouldn't go up... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 47 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Fierce? Get over yourself and your amateurish attempts to ‘trigger’ the adults. I’ll go back to my glass of Cab while enjoying a spectacular sunset in warm Southern California. lmao - yes deek - you are triggered... otherwise you would have just ignored it. Enjoy your cab sunshine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 10:25 AM, Doc said: Yeah I can't believe the father and the neighbor might get life in prison when the son is the one who actually shot and killed Arbery. I also don't know if I agree with "malice murder" for the son considering the definition is "no considerable provocation appears and where all the circumstances of the killing show an abandoned and malignant heart," as he engaged Arbery over alleged thefts and they both struggled for the gun. I think voluntary manslaughter would have been the more appropriate charge. Am I wrong? With regard to the father and 3rd dude: felony murder exists for a reason. You can make an argument for the guy filming but not the dad I don’t think. In any case the jury rejected that argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 hours ago, BillStime said: lol - oh you’re fierce tonight… lmao Funny how narratives apply in some situations and not others. Oh the irony in that post! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 Six words from Marcus Arbery, Sr. for which we can all be thankful https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2021/11/25/six-words-from-marcus-arbery-sr-for-which-we-can-all-be-thankful-n431400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Six words from Marcus Arbery, Sr. for which we can all be thankful https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2021/11/25/six-words-from-marcus-arbery-sr-for-which-we-can-all-be-thankful-n431400 After the trial, the usual suspects gathered to do their best to keep division and strife alive between white and black communities. Professional race-baiters like Al Sharpton were front and center, at the microphone to deliver their remarks. Their words never change because it is to their benefit to keep strife, not hope, alive. For them, the grift is strong. The words that were striking during that press conference came from the parents of Ahmaud Arbery. Both are clearly still grieving the loss of their son but words of grace were found in their remarks. You don't think you're contributing to the division, Bonnie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) This will be appealed based on incorrect jury instructions, and may well be reversed (leading to a 2nd trial). Per Branca, the two sentence Georgia law re Citizen Arrest should be read under Doctrines of Plain text/strict construction, and Lenity. Potential problem: judge effectively left it to the jury to make own conclusions on meaning of a confusing statute. NOTE1: I am addressing due process of case, not whether I think these guys are innocent. NOTE2: as I understand it, lethal force privileges found in law of self-defense do not, per se, apply under citizen arrest circumstances. The various states have different laws but I think the above is a general standard. Edited November 28, 2021 by Dukestreetking Clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Dukestreetking said: This will be appealed based on incorrect jury instructions, and may well be reversed (leading to a 2nd trial). Per Branca, the two sentence Georgia law re Citizen Arrest should be read under Doctrines of Plain text/strict construction, and Lenity. Potential problem: judge effectively left it to the jury to make own conclusions on meaning of a confusing statute. NOTE1: I am addressing due process of case, not whether I think these guys are innocent. NOTE2: as I understand it, lethal force privileges found in law of self-defense do not, per se, apply under citizen arrest circumstances. The various states have different laws but I think the above is a general standard. I understand it will be appealed but hopefully it is fully rejected by whichever court hears it. All trials have some issues but that should not be enough to get retrial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I understand it will be appealed but hopefully it is fully rejected by whichever court hears it. All trials have some issues but that should not be enough to get retrial. I hear you but...this is not a small procedural issue. The appeal would not involve a fact finding of the jury but how the jury was instructed to find and weigh those facts...beyond reasonable doubt. This, imv and others, is ripe pickings for the defense...if they have $ to appeal of course. Again, to be clear, my view is that these guys should've simply called the cops...esp since LEOs were canvassing neighborhood w AA's picture before the shooting. This is simply a fact in evidence. So, bottom line, law is the law (cliche alert) and we will see how the appeals court views the issues I noted. I've no insight in that regard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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