Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) On 11/8/2021 at 12:02 AM, Ethan in Portland said: I'd advocate trying the following O-line for a few series at least and see what happens. LT - Brown LG - Dawkins C - Morse RG - Boettger RT - Williams There is no PS player that is going to save this situation. What do you all think of this idea. Williams is a much better RT than a guard. Brown looks capable of playing OT in the NFL. Dawkins is good but not elite at LT. The current guards are turnstiles and can't move or block anyone. Morse is what he is. He's solidly above average pass blocker and poor run blocker. Ford is just a massive bust. Bates is a tease. He is probably not capable of playing any position for any length of time but he is a good game-day injury option that can back-up all five spots. Expand i actually think the biggest problem is Williams at RT. It’s like he moved inside for a bit and forgot how to play tackle. He looked far worse to me than Ford did at guard today. edit: and Ike was atrocious today. Edited November 8, 2021 by Miyagi-Do Karate 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 After today I never want to see Daryl Williams play RT again. Just watch him sleep on that late sack of Josh and you'll be disgusted. Leave Brown at RT, jam DW to RG and ask Dion to earn his contract. Quote
Hebert19 Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 12:22 AM, MAJBobby said: The sooner Felciano Morse Wiliams are not starting the better Expand Morse is only Olineman playing reasonably Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) On 11/8/2021 at 12:41 AM, Hebert19 said: Morse is only Olineman playing reasonably Expand Still doesn’t mean he is good. dawkins and Brown at the only two keepers out of this starting unit I want here next year. Go full chiefs. The problem identified do the overhaul Edited November 8, 2021 by MAJBobby 1 Quote
george c Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 ….and the Chief are still in the same boat. We lost, we sucked, we’ll practice…on to NY. 1 Quote
Hebert19 Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 12:43 AM, MAJBobby said: Still doesn’t mean he is good. dawkins and Brown at the only two keepers out of this starting unit I want here next year. Go full chiefs. The problem identified do the overhaul Expand I'd say at Dawkins price he should go first. The schnowman can find a new home or build a ***** igloo for all I care. 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 12:23 AM, MAJBobby said: He isn’t going to be healthy all year after his COVID. That is what is is. I know a lot of people want to ignore the issues he had with it and the weight loss and strength. Isn’t going to be himself again until next year. the other three don’t even need to be on this team Expand The bad part about Dawkins though is he's making mental mistakes also. He's Getting beat to your point and I'm sure a lot of it is due to covid as you said. But he's also just missing simple stunts and isn't picking up the blitzer coming off the edge. Quote
Big Blitz Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 12:39 AM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: i actually think the biggest problem is Williams at RT. It’s like he moved inside for a bit and forgot how to play tackle. He looked far worse to me than Ford did at guard today. edit: and Ike was atrocious today. Expand Williams and Ford were horrific. Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 12:54 AM, Big Blitz said: Williams and Ford were horrific. Expand re Williams, did you see the last 3rd down where Williams allowed the sack? Someone posted the video in another thread here. He stood there for like 2 seconds while his man went by him. And that was the game!! It knocked us out of FG range. Quote
Big Blitz Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 12:58 AM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: re Williams, did you see the last 3rd down where Williams allowed the sack? Someone posted the video in another thread here. He stood there for like 2 seconds while his man went by him. And that was the game!! It knocked us out of FG range. Expand Yes I did. There was another play the DE was in a wide 9 and Williams off the ball went right inside and blocked no one. The DE was in Allen's face immediately. Not just getting bear physically but making mental mistakes all over the place. Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 12:54 AM, BillsFan130 said: The bad part about Dawkins though is he's making mental mistakes also. He's Getting beat to your point and I'm sure a lot of it is due to covid as you said. But he's also just missing simple stunts and isn't picking up the blitzer coming off the edge. Expand Mental mistake is also an issue with the virus. My boss caught it. He said after cleared he still was in a fog for 6 months or so. It was confusing to him. I think he should be sat down but I don’t think his drop off in play this year is because he got paid. Quote
BillsFan130 Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 1:02 AM, MAJBobby said: Mental mistake is also an issue with the virus. My boss caught it. He said after cleared he still was in a fog for 6 months or so. It was confusing to him. I think he should be sat down but I don’t think his drop off in play this year is because he got paid. Expand Ahh ok Fair enough. And ya agreed. Problem is if you bench him, who would you put in though? Especially if brown is out. Maybe Bates? 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 12:54 AM, Big Blitz said: Williams and Ford were horrific. Expand Yes Williams, Ford and Dawkins collectively played their worst game. Boett's penalty was so unfair and at least Morse held his own. Quote
JohnNord Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 12:02 AM, Ethan in Portland said: I'd advocate trying the following O-line for a few series at least and see what happens. LT - Brown LG - Dawkins C - Morse RG - Boettger RT - Williams There is no PS player that is going to save this situation. What do you all think of this idea. Williams is a much better RT than a guard. Brown looks capable of playing OT in the NFL. Dawkins is good but not elite at LT. The current guards are turnstiles and can't move or block anyone. Morse is what he is. He's solidly above average pass blocker and poor run blocker. Ford is just a massive bust. Bates is a tease. He is probably not capable of playing any position for any length of time but he is a good game-day injury option that can back-up all five spots. Expand Dawkins has never played guard in the NFL. I don’t see this happening Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 1:04 AM, BillsFan130 said: Ahh ok Fair enough. And ya agreed. Problem is if you bench him, who would you put in though? Especially if brown is out. Maybe Bates? Expand Not sure. Maybe try it. But he is the furthest issue even with his down play. Have to get the OGs figured out. 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 1:01 AM, Big Blitz said: Yes I did. There was another play the DE was in a wide 9 and Williams off the ball went right inside and blocked no one. The DE was in Allen's face immediately. Not just getting bear physically but making mental mistakes all over the place. Expand That was my take too— like 60% mental errors by the line today. The three interior linemen could not handle a stunt today to save their lives. Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 Why can our OTs not be two steps into their pass drop before the ball is snapped like the Jags were at least 10 times today? Bills should absolutely send the cut up of all those to the league officials 1 Quote
SectionC3 Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 1:01 AM, Big Blitz said: Yes I did. There was another play the DE was in a wide 9 and Williams off the ball went right inside and blocked no one. The DE was in Allen's face immediately. Not just getting bear physically but making mental mistakes all over the place. Expand Yeah it’s bad when the IOL is getting walked back into Josh’s face such that he can’t step up and the ends get close while generally maintaining contain. Big issue. Quote
SydneyBillsFan Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 12:02 AM, Ethan in Portland said: I'd advocate trying the following O-line for a few series at least and see what happens. LT - Brown LG - Dawkins C - Morse RG - Boettger RT - Williams There is no PS player that is going to save this situation. What do you all think of this idea. Williams is a much better RT than a guard. Brown looks capable of playing OT in the NFL. Dawkins is good but not elite at LT. The current guards are turnstiles and can't move or block anyone. Morse is what he is. He's solidly above average pass blocker and poor run blocker. Ford is just a massive bust. Bates is a tease. He is probably not capable of playing any position for any length of time but he is a good game-day injury option that can back-up all five spots. Expand This would be akin to "shuffling" your own hand which has a pair of 7's whilst the guy across the table holds a straight flush. No "shuffle" is fixing this heartless, teflon O-line. Quote
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