ExiledInIllinois Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 This is their red line. I didn't put it there. Josh was still fully in right at this moment. Why they didn't go to official review (under 2 minutes) is a mystery: At least review it... When he rolled his shoulders and squared them down... Both are in. His helmet is in on this shot! I have the other angle and will post it shortly... 3 1 1 Quote
Bangarang Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 The call was changed by the booth so I’m assuming that’s why it wasn’t reviewed 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 He does not have control. Can you fumble forward in their situation? The call was first down and was overruled by the sky judge. 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 19, 2021 Author Posted October 19, 2021 Here's the other angle of the above shot I first posted. Quote
klos63 Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 4:58 AM, ExiledInIllinois said: This is their red line. I didn't put it there. Josh was still fully in right at this moment. Why they didn't go to official review (under 2 minutes) is a mystery: At least review it... When he rolled his shoulders and squared them down... Both are in. His helmet is in on this shot! I have the other angle and will post it shortly... Expand This picture was after his arm hit the ground with the ball clearly short of the 2 yard line. It wasn't close. 4 10 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 19, 2021 Author Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 5:01 AM, mattynh said: He does not have control. Can you fumble forward in their situation? The call was first down and was overruled by the sky judge. Expand Was it really! He's controlling the ball here. Both shots are at same point. Quote
Richard Noggin Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) He didn't, though. The ball was not extended when his initial arm/elbow hit, spotting the ball short. They got that call right, unfortunately. You don't get his rolling momentum. You get the initial ball location when he is first down or out of bounds. Edited October 19, 2021 by Richard Noggin 4 12 3 Quote
klos63 Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 5:01 AM, mattynh said: He does not have control. Can you fumble forward in their situation? The call was first down and was overruled by the sky judge. Expand Are you sure? I didn't notice that. He was clearly short, but I didn't know the spot was changed. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 5:03 AM, klos63 said: Are you sure? I didn't notice that. He was clearly short, but I didn't know the spot was changed. Expand McDermott said so 1 Quote
klos63 Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 5:01 AM, ExiledInIllinois said: Here's the other angle of the above shot I first posted. Expand Watch the whole play, he was obviously short. 1 Quote
buffblue Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 5:00 AM, Bangarang said: The call was changed by the booth so I’m assuming that’s why it wasn’t reviewed Expand Yep I was screaming as I'm sure all Bills fans were when it happened, but McD pretty much confirmed this in his presser 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 19, 2021 Author Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 5:02 AM, klos63 said: This picture was after his arm hit the ground with the ball clearly short of the 2 yard line. It wasn't close. Expand Is he considered down here? Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 5:02 AM, klos63 said: This picture was after his arm hit the ground with the ball clearly short of the 2 yard line. It wasn't close. Expand Wish he reached the ball out 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 5:05 AM, ExiledInIllinois said: Is he considered down here? Expand Elbow down 1 1 Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 4:58 AM, ExiledInIllinois said: This is their red line. I didn't put it there. Josh was still fully in right at this moment. Why they didn't go to official review (under 2 minutes) is a mystery: At least review it... When he rolled his shoulders and squared them down... Both are in. His helmet is in on this shot! I have the other angle and will post it shortly... Expand But he doesn't have control of the ball in this shot. Where was he when he had control of the ball? Quote
klos63 Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 5:05 AM, ExiledInIllinois said: Is he considered down here? Expand yes and you can see he's outside the 2 yard line. Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 5:02 AM, Richard Noggin said: He didn't, though. The ball was not extended when his initial shoulder hit, spotting the ball short. They got that call right, unfortunately. You don't get his rolling momentum. You get the initial ball location when he is first down or out of bounds. Expand Yes it was short. Josh just wasn't able to extend the ball because of the way/angle he was hit. It was inches from another highlight play by him. 1 1 Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 5:05 AM, ExiledInIllinois said: Is he considered down here? Expand Yes, a player is down when he contacts the ground with any part of his body other than his hands and feet. 2 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 It was short but I wasn't aware the NFL had a sky judge in this game because that's what it seemed like. 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 It's super obvious and he was definitely short. No debate, unfortunately. 2 1 1 Quote
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