SoCal Deek Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 1 minute ago, snafu said: You shouldn't bother. He doesn't apparently think before he posts anything. And if he does think before posting, then LOL. I’m always willing to try. He offered a lot of stuff there but that’s the first time I’d heard that one about how Trump’s pandemic response punished blue states. How exactly? Maybe you know? I live in deep blue California and I’ve never heard one person say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 It was probably him sending hospital ships to NY and CA and converting the Javets (sp?) center, and ramping up ventilators and PPE. He punished them so hard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Just now, SoCal Deek said: I’m always willing to try. He offered a lot of stuff there but that’s the first time I’d heard that one about how Trump’s pandemic response punished blue states. How exactly? Maybe you know? I live in deep blue California and I’ve never heard one person say that. I absolutely don't know. Especially because two of the bluest governors (Newsom and Cuomo) each publicly said that Trump gave them everything they asked for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Buffalo area because my friends and family all live here. If this country truly did split in two you'd slowly see a return to policies where we are now on the political spectrum in both sections. Then we'd pry talk about rejoining. i hope thats true. but not seeing how people arent looking at the 2 extremes. id say portland is one and city in texas? florida? is the other? homeless, recalls, fmla, pfl, massive amounts of social saftey net abuse, soft on crime only going further in that direction incredible overreach on regulations for basic things including simple changes you want to make ON THE PROPERTY YOU BOUGHT and corruption of those benefiting. taxes on top of taxes to pay for it all with constant surplus debt because they can't. no end in sight because pulling back on any of it will upset a large portion of the voting base. i just dont see how its even comparable. maybe losing abortion rights and having a christian overreach? i live in buffalo so maybe its the same in republican cities. it simply is not sustainable from this aspect. Edited August 20, 2021 by Buffarukus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, Buffarukus said: i hope thats true. but not seeing how people arent looking at the 2 extremes. id say portland is one and city in texas? florida? is the other? homeless, recalls, fmla, pfl, massive amounts of social saftey net abuse, soft on crime only going further in that direction incredible overreach on regulations for basic things including simple changes you want to make ON THE PROPERTY YOU BOUGHT and corruption of those benefiting. taxes on top of taxes to pay for it all with constant surplus debt because they can't. no end in sight because pulling back on any of it will upset a large portion of the voting base. i just dont see how its even comparable. maybe losing abortion rights and having a christian overreach? i live in buffalo so maybe its the same in republican cities. it simply is not sustainable from this aspect. The more I think about it the more unlikely it is for any state to secede from the union based on historical and legal precedence. The Civil War basically wiped out that option for states giving a lot of power to the federal government. I guess we're just going to have to learn to live with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 40 minutes ago, snafu said: I absolutely don't know. Especially because two of the bluest governors (Newsom and Cuomo) each publicly said that Trump gave them everything they asked for. Lol, all while claiming it would be over by April! And that it wasn’t tha5 bad, and other lies. Trump is a POS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Lol, all while claiming it would be over by April! And that it wasn’t tha5 bad, and other lies. Trump is a POS That’s not a lie…it’s an opinion you nitwit! And again, how did his opinion impact blue states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: That’s not a lie…it’s an opinion you nitwit! And again, how did his opinion impact blue states. It’s gotta be “Trump’s April showers make blue states cower!”. It’s the only Tiberian thing that makes sense! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 29 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Lol, all while claiming it would be over by April! And that it wasn’t tha5 bad, and other lies. Trump is a POS That wasn't what we were discussing. Thanks for chiming in, surly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: The more I think about it the more unlikely it is for any state to secede from the union based on historical and legal precedence. The Civil War basically wiped out that option for states giving a lot of power to the federal government. I guess we're just going to have to learn to live with each other. your talking about a country that was preparing for major cities to burn to the ground if a certain result was not confirmed in the last election and the other storming to stop a confirmation. id say that's a good indicator its headed in that direction. i know this stuff has pretty much been normalized at this point so we barely even discuss it anymore (well one of them anyhow)....but that aint normal Edited August 20, 2021 by Buffarukus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) Trump’s Disregard for Blue States Is at the Heart of His Shoddy COVID Response https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/trumps-war-on-blue-states-is-worse-than-previously-thought.html Drop dead! https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-message-blue-states-battling-095002733.html Edited August 20, 2021 by Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 we really could use a smaller population in a few states. Move all the free thinkers out to the red and purple states. Keep the blue together to wallow in misery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) I keep forgetting SEC America would no doubt include almost all of the upper midwest - Ohio, Indiana, Minnesota minus Minneapolis, Wisconsin minus Madison and Milwaukee - we can allow to all be autonomous zones like Chaz; and Michigan minus Detroit and the small Eastern half of the state that votes socialist. You're out. Our negotiations with PA will be easy. Philadelphia and Scranton - out - we get the rest of the state. Western NY we definitely will make it work you also provide a strategic border with Canada and access to all that hydroelectric power.....and the Bills. Lol Wokeistan is basically going to be the Northeast, Northern Virginia (there are 3 counties in NOVA that are the problem you can have them), Minnesota, and the West Coast. Everyone else remaining in their SEC America that wants to join them (probably 10% of the pop) we will gladly ship you to one of those locations you can choose which. Edited August 20, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 There is still some "America" out there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 54 minutes ago, Governor said: Trump’s Disregard for Blue States Is at the Heart of His Shoddy COVID Response https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/trumps-war-on-blue-states-is-worse-than-previously-thought.html Drop dead! https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-message-blue-states-battling-095002733.html So you’re basing your OPINION on somebody else’s OPINION. Brilliant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, B-Man said: This is a topic where conservatives and republicans lose me. Why isn’t the freedom to control your own life parental decisions extended to this? parents who don’t want kids but life the fun process of making them don’t become good parents because the government tells them. Edited August 24, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: This is a topic where conservatives and republicans lose me. Why isn’t the freedom to control your own life parental decisions extended to this? parents who don’t want kids but life the fun process of making them don’t become good parents because the government tells them. What? It’s not your life to do whatever you please! To quote Obama ‘you didn’t build that’. Come on Man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 11 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: What? It’s not your life to do whatever you please! To quote Obama ‘you didn’t build that’. Come on Man! If you’re quoting the Obama reference I think then you are inferring government made it… right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: If you’re quoting the Obama reference I think then you are inferring government made it… right? Well it does take a village! 🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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