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40 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Let me ask you.  When was the last time you head anything about the Taliban prior to 2020?  

2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2011,2012,2013,2014,2015,2016,2017,2018,2019.

I was referring to I terrorists. Classed them, caught a few, learned nothing, no infiltration, they kill dozens on the way out. 20 years taught the generals NOTHING. Now Joe threatens them....what joke.

18 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

I am sorry for you.

We beat the hell out of them.

You are a pathetic idiot.

12 plus killed today by the very people you beat the he'll out of. Look in the mirror next time you think you want you call someone an idiot.

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24 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

I am sorry for you.

We beat the hell out of them.

You are a pathetic idiot.

 

Easy man.  He's not a pathetic idiot.  He's Canadi........Oh never mind

 

Carry on. 

7 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2011,2012,2013,2014,2015,2016,2017,2018,2019.

 

 

And what exactly did you hear?  Details man.  Details!! 

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55 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Easy man.  He's not a pathetic idiot.  He's Canadi........Oh never mind

 

Carry on. 

 

And what exactly did you hear?  Details man.  Details!! 

So many details, so little time. 

What's for dinner Chef?

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13 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Irony. 

 

The irony is Joey isn't on Twitland and is the biggest idiot of them all.

 

BTW, it's funny to see the ShineBox do everything they can to avoid talking about Afghanistan.

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Biden has full responsibility for these deaths.  He and the past 3 presidents have the responsibility for creating the situation we saw yesterday.  They should all have to write the letter to the 13 brave Marines that were killed. 
 

Yesterday was the result of 4 Presidents who refused to understand that America stands, or rather used to stand, against evil in the world.  

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26 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Biden has full responsibility for these deaths.  He and the past 3 presidents have the responsibility for creating the situation we saw yesterday.  They should all have to write the letter to the 13 brave Marines that were killed. 
 

Yesterday was the result of 4 Presidents who refused to understand that America stands, or rather used to stand, against evil in the world.  

No, this falls directly on biden, it was his approach to withdrawal from Afghanistan was his administration. To lump the previous president’s in blame is to lesson the decision HE made!!

This FUBAR falls directly on biden!!!

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It was a fatal mistake to be there more then a few months in the first place after seeing the result of the Soviet invasion there.

 

Never should have overthrown Iraq they were the counterweight of Iran. We allowed the Shah of Iran a US Ally to be overthrown also.

 

The US policy in the Middle East has been a disaster  to say the least.

 

The US had plane hijackings to Cuba in the 60's , would have been the right time to start having secure doors to the flight deck. Still having hijackers with box cutters in the cabin would put passengers in fatal danger to gain control. The passengers would all die if the door was opened but not known by the pilot.

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20 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said:

No, this falls directly on biden, it was his approach to withdrawal from Afghanistan was his administration. To lump the previous president’s in blame is to lesson the decision HE made!!

This FUBAR falls directly on biden!!!

    I blame the entire democrat party and their voters, they pitched fits, whined, bitched, pissed and moaned the entire duration

of Trumps presidency doing anything and everything they could to disrupt his presidency.

Then, in full out Trump derangement form went into ###### mode and picked a terrible career politician as a candidate,

bullied and cheated and rioted their way to win an election and then proceeded to go on an all out revenge tour to destroy

America out of pure spite - all because Hillary lost in 2016.

....and here we are, only 8 months into this nightmare.

Thanks a lot democrats, this is all on you.

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27 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said:

No, this falls directly on biden, it was his approach to withdrawal from Afghanistan was his administration. To lump the previous president’s in blame is to lesson the decision HE made!!

This FUBAR falls directly on biden!!!

What did I post?  What?  Here is what I wrote:

 

Biden has full responsibility for these deaths.

 

Those are the exact words I wrote.  You, sir, are an idiot.

 

Now, let's look at the 20 years that led us to yesterday, where Biden screwed up the withdrawal and cost us 13 Americans.  Yesterday was the culmination of 20 years of horsebleep policies from Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden.  Bush should have done what his dad did, put together an overwhelming force to wipe out the terrorists in Afghanistan and the Taliban that supported them.  He didn't.  Mistake one.  Obama should have then shown more foreign policy chops and not laid down red lines in Syria that he then ignored - that showed all the terrorists including the Taliban that if they were patient America would cave.  Mistake two.  Trump then tries to be friends with despots around the world, cuts a deal with the TAliban that short circuits the Afghan government and cuts them off at the knees, and allows 5000 Taliban to be released to fight us.  Mistake three.  Biden then comes in, completely FUBARs the withdrawal, and gets 14 soldiers killed.  Mistake four.

 

Other the the pre-civil was period, we have never seen a stretch of presidents as weak as the ones we have had in this century. 

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Seth Moulton (and others) are total garbage. He took it upon himself to launch his own evacuation mission to save “certain” families that reached out to him.

 

I know exactly what that process is. The family sends letters to all of the politicians, a staff member reads it, it makes it to their desk, the family is researched, then put on a “save” list. 
 

They don’t personally know these families. 
 

This morning, the guy is making his rounds on the networks talking about his “military connections” and how he saved a few families.
 

Come on man, you can’t be doing that. Even after Biden slapped him down, he’s still totally oblivious to how people might view that in the future. It’s all about him.

 

Apparently, there was another plane full of politicians on the way to do the same exact thing and Biden wouldn’t let them land. Disgusting behavior.

 

I hope Nancy cuts his nads off.

 

 

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1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

Biden has full responsibility for these deaths.  He and the past 3 presidents have the responsibility for creating the situation we saw yesterday.  They should all have to write the letter to the 13 brave Marines that were killed. 
 

Yesterday was the result of 4 Presidents who refused to understand that America stands, or rather used to stand, against evil in the world.  

 

Please.  Yesterday was on Joey and Joey alone.  Again, everyone agrees that we needed to leave.  The way Joey chose to leave was idiotic.  You can't blame that on any of the 3 previous Presidents.  And I don't believe you can blame the war on Barry or Trump, and I still struggle with whether Dubya should have invaded (although Iraq was a huge blunder).

 

12 minutes ago, Governor said:

Seth Moulton (and others) are total garbage. He took it upon himself to launch his own evacuation mission to save “certain” families that reached out to him.

 

I know exactly what that process is. The family sends letters to all of the politicians, a staff member reads it, it makes it to their desk, the family is researched, then put on a “save” list. 
 

They don’t personally know these families. 
 

This morning, the guy is making his rounds on the networks talking about his “military connections” and how he saved a few families.
 

Come on man, you can’t be doing that. Even after Biden slapped him down, he’s still totally oblivious to how people might view that in the future. It’s all about him.

 

Apparently, there was another plane full of politicians on the way to do the same exact thing and Biden wouldn’t let them land. Disgusting behavior.

 

Where did you see that Moulton and Meijer evacuated families?  And even if they did, it was better for them to be left there? 

 

I realize that many of you have a problem with it but money talks.  That's the way it is and the way it will always be.  And it doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on: money speaks to both equally.

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3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Please.  Yesterday was on Joey and Joey alone.  Again, everyone agrees that we needed to leave.  The way Joey chose to leave was idiotic.  You can't blame that on any of the 3 previous Presidents.  And I don't believe you can blame the war on Barry or Trump, and I still struggle with whether Dubya should have invaded (although Iraq was a huge blunder).

 

 

Where did you see that Moulton and Meijer evacuated families?  And even if they did, it was better for them to be left there? 

 

I realize that many of you have a problem with it but money talks.  That's the way it is and the way it will always be.  And it doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on: money speaks to both equally.

We don’t need 100 politicians over there holding clipboards picking winners and losers only to see them showcased on their campaign tv ads a year from now. That’s not what we should be doing here. How many other families did he just walk right on by trying to find his “chosen” family?

 

If that normally happens, don’t go on the tv and brag about it and act like you’re some kind of hero.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Governor said:

We don’t need 100 politicians over there holding clipboards picking winners and losers only to see them showcased on their campaign tv ads a year from now. That’s not what we should be doing here. How many other families did he just walk right on by trying to find his “chosen” family?

 

If that normally happens, don’t go on the tv and brag about it and act like you’re some kind of hero.

 

 

Ha! I’m sure you thought the same every time a congressional delegation waltzed into some foreign land to go ‘see for themselves’. Right? Could it be they wanted to see what a PERFECT surrender looks like so we’ll know how to do it next time? 

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19 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Please.  Yesterday was on Joey and Joey alone.  Again, everyone agrees that we needed to leave.  The way Joey chose to leave was idiotic.  You can't blame that on any of the 3 previous Presidents.  And I don't believe you can blame the war on Barry or Trump, and I still struggle with whether Dubya should have invaded (although Iraq was a huge blunder).

 

 

Where did you see that Moulton and Meijer evacuated families?  And even if they did, it was better for them to be left there? 

 

I realize that many of you have a problem with it but money talks.  That's the way it is and the way it will always be.  And it doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on: money speaks to both equally.

Another guy who needs to take his head out of Trump’s butt to actually read.  Biden is responsible for the deaths of those 13 brave warriors because he screwed up the withdrawal.  We would not have been in the position where that happened if the last 4 presidents had formulated policies to take care of the Taliban and terrorist threats definitively.  

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9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Ha! I’m sure you thought the same every time a congressional delegation waltzed into some foreign land to go ‘see for themselves’. Right? Could it be they wanted to see what a PERFECT surrender looks like so we’ll know how to do it next time? 

This is an evacuation mission. These politicians need extra security detail while they’re walking around picking heads out of a crowd.

 

This is the kinda stuff I and some others don’t forget come election time.

 

It’s quite “Trumpy.”

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2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Another guy who needs to take his head out of Trump’s butt to actually read.  Biden is responsible for the deaths of those 13 brave warriors because he screwed up the withdrawal.  We would not have been in the position where that happened if the last 4 presidents had formulated policies to take care of the Taliban and terrorist threats definitively.  

 

Yeah, I'm the one who needs to get his head out of (a) butt.  Meanwhile I didn't say that only Trump shouldn't be blamed, yet you went there. :rolleyes:

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