Critical Race Theory

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

Meanwhile - how many red states are welfare states? Why do blue states bail out red states all the time.

 

Keep crying 

 

Racism right?   It must be racism.  

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

 

When you have to push a lie over and over and over again you've lost the argument.  Based on this you lost the argument a long time ago. 

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Racism right?   It must be racism.  

 

When you have to push a lie over and over and over again you've lost the argument.  Based on this you lost the argument a long time ago. 

what lie?

[Chef Jim]

4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

We are talking about teaching history. Why are blacks disproportionally poor/ The answer is racism 

 

Why are whites in Appalachia disproportionately poor?  Is the answer racism there too?   

Just now, BillStime said:

what lie?

 

The one we've called you out on many many times.  

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Why are whites in Appalachia disproportionately poor?  Is the answer racism there too?   

 

The one we've called you out on many many times.  

I’m most certainly not the one being dishonest about our past. Look in the mirror Jim.

[Chef Jim]

Just now, BillStime said:

I’m most certainly not the one being dishonest about our past. Look in the mirror Jim.

 

That's not the lie.  Read the tweet you shared again.  If you have any brain or honesty you'll figure it out.  

 

And how am I being dishonest?

[reddogblitz]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

 

Where did she go to school? I learned about the slave trade etc in grammar school in Texas in the 1960s.  My daughter learned about it in Texas public school in the 1990s/2000s.  This is such a straw man.  If you have a good case you don't have to make stuff up.

 

Did you also know about New York City's large stake in slavery in the 1700s?  They had the 2nd largest port for importing slaves only behind Charleston.

 

I know a lot of Yankees like to look down their noses at the south for slavery, but the North was not a lot better for most of its history in America.

 

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New York has preeminently been the capital of American liberty, the freest city of the nation - its largest, most diverse, its most economically ambitious, and its most open to the world. It was also, paradoxically, for more than two centuries, the capital of American slavery.

 

As many as 20 percent of colonial New Yorkers were enslaved Africans. First Dutch and then English merchants built the city's local economy largely around supplying ships for the trade in slaves and in what slaves produced - sugar, tobacco, indigo, coffee, chocolate, and ultimately, cotton. New York ship captains and merchants bought and sold slaves along the coast of Africa and in the taverns of their own city. Almost every businessman in 18th-century New York had a stake, at one time or another, in the traffic in human beings.

 

http://www.slaveryinnewyork.org

 

https://www.nypl.org

 

The port was not even marked until 2015. I only found out about it cuz I was in NYC at the time and it was in a small article buried in the NY Times.

 

New York likes to hide the ball on this one. 

 

I also think its funny when you protest a REDSTATE source and then quote some yahoo from the high tech peanut gallery. 😄

Edited June 17, 2021 by reddogblitz

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Where did she go to school? I learned about the slave trade etc in grammar school in Texas in the 1960s.  My daughter learned about it in Texas public school in the 1990s/2000s.  This is such a straw man.  If you have a good case you don't have to make stuff up.

 

Did you also know about New York City's large stake in slavery in the 1700s?  They had the 2nd largest port for importing slaves only behind Charleston.

 

I know a lot of Yankees like to look down their noses at the south for slavery, but the North was not a lot better for most of its history in America.

 

 

http://www.slaveryinnewyork.org

 

https://www.nypl.org

 

The port was not even marked until 2015. I only found out about it cuz I was in NYC at the time and it was in a small article buried in the NY Times.

 

New York likes to hide the ball on this one. 

 

I also think its funny when you protest a REDSTATE source and then quote some yahoo from the high tech peanut gallery. 😄

 

I learned a ton about slavery in the US.  Some of it in school some of it on my own from reading these real cool things you find in the building called a library.  I was always interested in the Civil War.  It's causes, the battles, the surrender, the reconstruction.   I grew up in a house built in 1860 and always wondered if it was part of the underground railroad.  But yeah @BillStime you keep going with the lie that we don't care about the history of race in this country.  When you've lost the argument you resort to lies.  Bravo!! 

 

EDIT:  One of the first books I ever owned was The Civil War in Pictures.  My grandfather, a WWI Vet, gave it to me.  I've cherished that book ever since.  

Edited June 17, 2021 by Chef Jim

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I learned a ton about slavery in the US.  Some of it in school some of it on my own from reading these real cool things you find in the building called a library.  I was always interested in the Civil War.  It's causes, the battles, the surrender, the reconstruction.   I grew up in a house built in 1860 and always wondered if it was part of the underground railroad.  But yeah @BillStime you keep going with the lie that we don't care about the history of race in this country.  When you've lost the argument you resort to lies.  Bravo!! 

 

But so against CRT but can't tell us why beyond what he was told.  Why can't you provide any documentation from the CRT handbook?

[Chef Jim]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

But so against CRT but can't tell us why beyond what he was told.  Why can't you provide any documentation from the CRT handbook?

 

How many times we have to tell you there is no playbook!  That's the problem.   

 

And what I tell you are my concerns are mine and not what I've been told.  I'm not the meme or tweet posting guy.  I think it's safe to say I have shared zero tweets on this board. 

 

[BillStime]

6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

How many times we have to tell you there is no playbook!  That's the problem.   

 

And what I tell you are my concerns are mine and not what I've been told.  I'm not the meme or tweet posting guy.  I think it's safe to say I have shared zero tweets on this board. 

 

 

So other words - you got nothing... recurring theme for you CJ.

 

And for what it is worth - you did post a link from the Washington Examiner to back you up a couple days ago...'

 

LMAO.... Jim's #WINNING

 

Republican narratives are getting increasingly desperate and ridiculous. It’s like watching the worst and longest death scene ever.

[BillStime]

 

[Chef Jim]

22 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

So other words - you got nothing... recurring theme for you CJ.

 

And for what it is worth - you did post a link from the Washington Examiner to back you up a couple days ago...'

 

LMAO.... Jim's #WINNING

 

Republican narratives are getting increasingly desperate and ridiculous. It’s like watching the worst and longest death scene ever.

 

You're right.  I'm not winning.  We've won and won a LONG time ago.  We have post after post after post either expressing our concerns and the concerns of others (and many of them are POC) regarding CRT being taught to children.  You have yet to express why you feel the need to teach it other than IT'S TEACHING HISTORY! which is not the main tenant of CRT.  

18 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

Explain what this tweet means.  How are our issues with CRT saying we are OK with racism?  

 

That is if you have the intellectual capacity to do so. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

35 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

 

And what I tell you are my concerns are mine and not what I've been told.  I'm not the meme or tweet posting guy.  I think it's safe to say I have shared zero tweets on this board. 

 

You can’t expect mindless zombie follower sheep to believe thinking for one’s self is even possible. 

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

You can’t expect mindless zombie follower sheep to believe thinking for one’s self is even possible. 

[B-Man]

 

 

As predicted.

 

32 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

Because conservatives have gotten the jump on the left, you are now seeing dismissive commentary that presumes the right is fighting a ghost.

Again, that’s a tell that conservatives are winning this fight. When the left take a key piece of their ideology and pretend it doesn’t exist or claim you “just don’t understand it,” that’s their way of trying to shame you into disengaging.

 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

We conservatives should actually be glad about the left’s CRT fetish. After all, these dummies have handed us a giant Louisville Slugger to use to pummel them. The best part is that they are surprised we’re upset. Maybe they should get out more. Maybe they should meet some normal people. It’s not merely that normal people understand that Balkanization leads to the Balkans, and that the Balkans are not a role model (I was there – trust me, you do not want a society where ethnicity is everything). It’s that normal people know that this is evil, that to judge one by the color of his skin instead of the content of his character is un-American and un-Judeo-Christian, and probably un-every other religion except Marxism.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 17, 2021 by B-Man

[BillStime]

13 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

You're right.  I'm not winning.  We've won and won a LONG time ago.  We have post after post after post either expressing our concerns and the concerns of others (and many of them are POC) regarding CRT being taught to children.  You have yet to express why you feel the need to teach it other than IT'S TEACHING HISTORY! which is not the main tenant of CRT.  

 

Explain what this tweet means.  How are our issues with CRT saying we are OK with racism?  

 

That is if you have the intellectual capacity to do so. 

You can’t have a conversation about CRT when your whole premise is that it is out to hurt our children - specifically white students.

 

You and your ilk have provided zero substance that this is the mission of CRT - zero.

 

 

[Chef Jim]

4 minutes ago, BillStime said:

You can’t have a conversation about CRT when your whole premise is that it is out to hurt our children - specifically white students.

 

You and your ilk have provided zero substance that this is the mission of CRT - zero.

 

 

 

Wow I've never had a conversation with anyone as daft at you are.  

 

I'll ask you the same question I asked others yesterday.  Why do people have concerns about a curriculum in school based on religion. 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Wow I've never had a conversation with anyone as daft at you are.  

 

I'll ask you the same question I asked others yesterday.  Why do people have concerns about a curriculum in school based on religion. 

What aspect of religion? 

[B-Man]

 

 

Powerful stuff from the left's newest Uncle Tom.

 

 

 

 

I'm not a "call em out" type of poster, But could 716 or Tiberius explain to us why this gentleman is wrong.

 

 

Jim  * Useless, I know, but could you not do two pages of you asking questions back and forth (about religion no less)

 

 

 

 

Edited June 17, 2021 by B-Man

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

What aspect of religion? 

 

And there it is.  Chef Jim has just won the argument.  My job is done here.  

[BillStime]

3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

And there it is.  Chef Jim has just won the argument.  My job is done here.  

 

LMAO - JIM WON! JIM WON ON THE BUFFALO BILLS WEBSITE.

 

Again, what aspect of religion?

 

[B-Man]

 

THE INDOCTRINATION ISN’T GOING AS WELL AS HOPED: 

 

Media Panics Over Mounting Opposition to Critical Race Theory. 

"The best evidence that the resistance to CRT is gaining and posing a threat to Democrats is that the mainstream media is trying to marginalize and demonize the movement the way it attacked the Tea Party.”

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/06/media-panics-over-mounting-opposition-to-critical-race-theory/

 

 

 

 

Related: Panicked Media Escalates Disinformation War Against Critical Race Theory Opponents.

 

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/06/panicked-media-escalates-disinformation-war-against-critical-race-theory-opponents/

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

And there it is.  Chef Jim has just won the argument.  My job is done here.  

 

You do realize there is a difference between religion - and whether you believe in religion - versus sugarcoating our ACTUAL past to make it more palatable for insecure people like you, right?

 

 

 

[Chef Jim]

4 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

Again, what aspect of religion?

 

 

You don't understand the significance of this question with regard to this conversation do you?  

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

You do realize there is a difference between religion - and whether you believe in religion - versus sugarcoating our ACTUAL past to make it more palatable for insecure people like you, right?

 

Not my point AT ALL!  LOL!! 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

You don't understand the significance of this question with regard to this conversation do you?  

 

You haven't provided the actual documentation on CRT for me to know how it is relevant. Right?

[Chef Jim]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

You haven't provided the actual documentation on CRT for me to know how it is relevant. Right?

 

CRT is a concept just like religion right? 

[BillStime]

8 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

CRT is a concept just like religion right? 

Very different animals 

[T master]

4 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

 

And then there's you . Always living in the past  ! 

[716er]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

CRT is a concept just like religion right? 

Wait until you learn about mathematical concepts

 

CANCEL MATH

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

9 minutes ago, 716er said:

Wait until you learn about mathematical concepts

 

CANCEL MATH

since you brought up math… read this guide tool on how to teach math in the context of CRT. This isn’t some political report, this is an actual tool developed for teachers to apply crt to math education. 
 

‘individualism’ and ‘objectivity’ are white supremacism. 

 

https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/1_STRIDE1.pdf

[716er]

3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

since you brought up math… read this guide tool on how to teach math in the context of CRT. This isn’t some political report, this is an actual tool developed for teachers to apply crt to math education. 
 

‘individualism’ and ‘objectivity’ are white supremacism. 

 

https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/1_STRIDE1.pdf

 

oh the humanity 

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

Very different animals 

 

You're still not getting it.  

 

There are people that don't want religion taught in schools.  Why is that?  And don't say separation of church and state.  That's been discussed.  

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

17 minutes ago, 716er said:

 

oh the humanity 

Read it and defend it. Why are ‘grades’ and stressing a ‘right answer’ to math question white supremacy? 

[716er]

8 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Read it and defend it. Why are ‘grades’ and stressing a ‘right answer’ to math question white supremacy? 

 

What is specifically wrong with the pedagogy you're referring to on page 66? Pretty good way to teach. 

 

They wouldn't even mention white supremacy in the classroom - in practice it's simply critical theory.

Edited June 18, 2021 by 716er

[BillStime]

36 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

You're still not getting it.  

 

There are people that don't want religion taught in schools.  Why is that?  And don't say separation of church and state.  That's been discussed.  

I’m not getting it? You’re the one who can’t even point to the CRT Bible. You haven’t been able to provide an illustration of what good looks like - and what it looks like under CRT.

 

At least w religion one CAN point to a Bible.

 

Now whether one has faith and belief in the man made Bible is another story.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

42 minutes ago, 716er said:

in practice it's simply critical theory.

Correct and Fair enough… if you support critical theory and Marxism, CRT is probably ok for you too… that’s an opinion I disagree with and consider the opposite of what I value in a society and our education system but you are at least consistent. 
 

But at least you have grasped the real point of CRT and that it’s not about pretending slavery did not happen. 
 

I strongly oppose Marxist thinking and it’s history is littered with failure… as a wise quote i recently saw goes, if you want to find a country with no danger of eroding into Marxism, find the ones that were most recently Marxist and spectacularly collapsed… 

[716er]

1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Correct and Fair enough… if you support critical theory and Marxism, CRT is probably ok for you too… that’s an opinion I disagree with and consider the opposite of what I value in a society and our education system but you are at least consistent. 
 

But at least you have grasped the real point of CRT and that it’s not about pretending slavery did not happen. 
 

I strongly oppose Marxist thinking and it’s history is littered with failure… as a wise quote i recently saw goes, if you want to find a country with no danger of eroding into Marxism, find the ones that were most recently Marxist and spectacularly collapsed… 

 

It's 2021 - Critical theory is barely Marxist. It's post-modern. 

[Chef Jim]

53 minutes ago, BillStime said:

I’m not getting it? You’re the one who can’t even point to the CRT Bible. You haven’t been able to provide an illustration of what good looks like - and what it looks like under CRT.

 

At least w religion one CAN point to a Bible.

 

Now whether one has faith and belief in the man made Bible is another story.

Ok I’ll type slower.  
 

Do people have a concern about religion being taught in schools?  Yes!  Why?  Because they are concerned a teacher might use that to push and agenda on little Billy and they don’t want.  I get that. This is the exact same reason why people don’t want CRT taught in school. Especially seeing there is no “bible” for CRT.  Teachers can use the theory, and it is just that, a theory, to push an agenda on little Jimmy.  
 

Get it? 

[BillStime]

34 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Ok I’ll type slower.  
 

Do people have a concern about religion being taught in schools?  Yes!  Why?  Because they are concerned a teacher might use that to push and agenda on little Billy and they don’t want.  I get that. This is the exact same reason why people don’t want CRT taught in school. Especially seeing there is no “bible” for CRT.  Teachers can use the theory, and it is just that, a theory, to push an agenda on little Jimmy.  
 

Get it? 

 

Thanks Jim... how long has CRT been around?

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, 716er said:

 

It's 2021 - Critical theory is barely Marxist. It's post-modern. 

Barely Marxist lol.. critical theory was devised by Marx disciples almost 100 years ago in nazi Germany.  It’s proud of its Marxist root and your insulting it to say it doesn’t go far enough.  

 

But  I think I’m fine with carving the country into two countries, at this point..  a Marxist one and a capitalist one. People can uproot to live in the one they want. It should be easier on the Marxist side to relocate there since no person should own property anyway. Let’s see which new nation succeeds….