BillsShredder83 635 Posted Thursday at 04:33 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:33 AM Been thinking today, McD could really use a toy for a big nickel hybrid kinda guy. Last year it was Chinn and Dugger. Anybody like that coming out this year? I feel like it was this time last year that the Dugger name was starting to pop up around our team. Anybody got anything? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buffalo_Stampede 3,560 Posted Thursday at 04:35 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:35 AM I always hear this but who comes off the field? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buffalo716 5,892 Posted Thursday at 04:36 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:36 AM (edited) 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I always hear this but who comes off the field? Taron johnson And that's why it's a sub package because it's never going to see the field more than 20% of the snaps With nickel basically being our base, and johnson being so valuable Edited Thursday at 04:37 AM by Buffalo716 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buffalo_Stampede 3,560 Posted Thursday at 04:51 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:51 AM 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Taron johnson And that's why it's a sub package because it's never going to see the field more than 20% of the snaps With nickel basically being our base, and johnson being so valuable You need a unique player. I think they would love to draft a hybrid S/LB player but it really takes a unique player. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NickelCity 1,100 Posted Thursday at 04:55 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:55 AM What's up? 2 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buffalo716 5,892 Posted Thursday at 04:57 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:57 AM (edited) 6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: You need a unique player. I think they would love to draft a hybrid S/LB player but it really takes a unique player. Yeah if you have Charles woodson you would be in a great spot But most players are not built for every part of that role, it takes like three players to cover it You need to be able to cover slot wide receivers, be tough in run support, blitz off the edge, play a hook zone, have great play awareness .. it's relegated to a sub package because you need a All pro talent player, to handle all the roles Even having Kyle Duggar here he wouldn't see more than 20% of the snaps, cuz he can't cover well, let alone slot receivers Edited Thursday at 04:58 AM by Buffalo716 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillsShredder83 635 Posted Thursday at 04:58 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 04:58 AM 20 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I always hear this but who comes off the field? Honestly i dont know, but mcd must have had plans on what to do with one last year. Maybe Edmunds in certain scenarios. I dont think hes trash, but i think hes mildly above average. Might look better more situationally 4 minutes ago, NickelCity said: What's up? U up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buffalo716 5,892 Posted Thursday at 05:00 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:00 AM (edited) 2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Honestly i dont know, but mcd must have had plans on what to do with one last year. Maybe Edmunds in certain scenarios. I dont think hes trash, but i think hes mildly above average. Might look better more situationally It's only a big nickel if you're replacing a slot corner with another safety/hybrid The slot corner comes off the field Edited Thursday at 05:01 AM by Buffalo716 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Buffalo_Stampede 3,560 Posted Thursday at 05:13 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:13 AM (edited) 13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: It's only a big nickel if you're replacing a slot corner with another safety/hybrid The slot corner comes off the field I think part of the Bills interest in big nickle was Taron johnson was having injuries and Milano was a UFA in a year. Edited Thursday at 05:13 AM by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buffalo716 5,892 Posted Thursday at 05:16 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:16 AM 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think part of the Bills interest in big nickle was Taron johnson was having injuries and Milano was a UFA in a year. I mean it's never bad to upgrade your team. But it will never replace traditional Nickel in McDermott's defense which is taking 60% of the snaps Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RyanC883 2,198 Posted Thursday at 05:16 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:16 AM I think the safety from FSU? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BruceVilanch 1,325 Posted Thursday at 05:16 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:16 AM Found it. It's Canadian though. 1 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROONDOGG55 21 Posted Thursday at 05:25 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:25 AM I like JaCoby Stevens out of LSU. May not contribute right away but could be an asset later in the season. He should be available in the later rounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
syhuang 425 Posted Thursday at 05:29 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:29 AM Marvin Wilson, FSU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GunnerBill 19,008 Posted Thursday at 05:35 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:35 AM 46 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Taron johnson And that's why it's a sub package because it's never going to see the field more than 20% of the snaps With nickel basically being our base, and johnson being so valuable I am not sure I agree with you on Taron's value. For the first half of last season he couldn't cover squat. He did round into some form later in the year but I think a Kyle Dugger type would have seen way more than 20% of the snaps last year. It is fundamentally the question though for the "big nickel" if you spend decent resource on the spot - and Kirby gave us good intel that if Dugger was there last year he would have been the pick - how much are you getting him on the field. To the OPs question a guy I like day 3 is Tariq Thompson out of San Diego State. Played safety in college but projects better as a dime backer in the NFL. He is a little bigger than Taron and a better hitter though also a little slower. At the spot you are picking him he would be much more of the 20% sub package type but he is an intriguing prospect. Just has a nose for the football. 6 minutes ago, syhuang said: Marvin Wilson, FSU I mean playing a 1 tech defensive tackle as a nickel would definitely classify him as a "big" nickel. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buffalo716 5,892 Posted Thursday at 05:37 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:37 AM (edited) 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I am not sure I agree with you on Taron's value. For the first half of last season he couldn't cover squat. He did round into some form later in the year but I think a Kyle Dugger type would have seen way more than 20% of the snaps last year. It is fundamentally the question though for the "big nickel" if you spend decent resource on the spot - and Kirby gave us good intel that if Dugger was there last year he would have been the pick - how much are you getting him on the field. To the OPs question a guy I like day 3 is Tariq Thompson out of San Diego State. Played safety in college but projects better as a dime backer in the NFL. He is a little bigger than Taron and a better hitter though also a little slower. At the spot you are picking him he would be much more of the 20% sub package type but he is an intriguing prospect. Just has a nose for the football. Taron started slow, but his tape has been very good since his rookie season, and when he's hurt our defense suffers as a whole As coach McDermott says, it takes three players to replace him.. playing slot corner is one of the toughest jobs in the NFL And if you think Johnson couldn't cover squat... I'd hate for you to see Duggar in the slot 😆 Edited Thursday at 05:38 AM by Buffalo716 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GunnerBill 19,008 Posted Thursday at 05:38 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:38 AM Just now, Buffalo716 said: Taron started slow, but his tape has been very good since his rookie season, and when he's hurt our defense suffers as a whole As coach McDermott says, it takes three players to replace him.. playing slot corner is one of the toughest jobs in the NFL But I expect they will be drafting to replace him this year, because personally I'd be really surprised if they pay him after this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buffalo716 5,892 Posted Thursday at 05:40 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:40 AM 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: But I expect they will be drafting to replace him this year, because personally I'd be really surprised if they pay him after this season. He's probably as good as gone 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: But I expect they will be drafting to replace him this year, because personally I'd be really surprised if they pay him after this season. Dane jackson and cam lewis possible understudies on roster 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freddyjj 1,298 Posted Thursday at 07:14 AM Share Posted Thursday at 07:14 AM (edited) 8 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Been thinking today, McD could really use a toy for a big nickel hybrid kinda guy. Last year it was Chinn and Dugger. Anybody like that coming out this year? I feel like it was this time last year that the Dugger name was starting to pop up around our team. Anybody got anything? This from TBN in March. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/florida-state-dbs-show-skills-for-bills-nfl-scouts-at-pro-day/article_0e9e651c-8b4f-11eb-9514-e7f8cc99065f.html#:~:text=However%2C Nasirildeen did not run the 40 due,had vertical jumps of more than 40 inches. Hamsah Nasirildeen FSU. Hybrid S/LB. Edited Thursday at 12:59 PM by freddyjj spelling 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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