Orlando Tim Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 I will start with I support all of the requirements I have seen from the law and it is similar to what we have in Florida. The MLB reaction though might be the worst thought out reaction in sports history. They already know they messed up and are trying to not discuss what was "objectionable" because Colorado has similar laws. MLB.com as of 1130 this morning has zero mentions of ASG and it being moved or any mention of standing up for voters. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Of course you support making it harder for working people to vote. Is this suppose to surprise anyone? Good for MLB for standing up for democracy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Of course you support making it harder for working people to vote. Is this suppose to surprise anyone? Good for MLB for standing up for democracy Which part of the law specifically are you against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Which part of the law specifically are you against? That it reduces the opportunities for working people to vote. You dont agree that lessening the times, places, and methods of voting reduces the opportunities for voting, though, correct? You simply can’t! And I mean you can’t politically agree with that statement. Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: That it reduces the opportunities for working people to vote. You dont agree that lessening the times, places, and methods of voting reduces the opportunities for voting, though, correct? You simply can’t! And I mean you can’t politically agree with that statement. Correct? Give us a specific example of where in the Bill it makes it actually HARDER for working people to vote. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Give us a specific example of where in the Bill it makes it actually HARDER for working people to vote. My previous answer covered that. Fewer opportunities to vote make it harder to vote. I hate it that you might not understand. So if you need me to explain it in simpler terms, just ask 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Give us a specific example of where in the Bill it makes it actually HARDER for working people to vote. He cannot. You will get the same dodge as the hundred times past. Well we are already off the MLB part..................as was easy to predict. FAIRNESS! MLB Moves This Summer’s All-Star Game From Atlanta to One of the Whitest Cities in America. https://pjmedia.com/culture/bryan-preston/2021/04/05/breaking-mlb-moves-this-summers-all-star-game-from-atlanta-to-one-of-the-whitest-cities-in-america- n1437635 Biden’s Lies About Voter Law Cost Georgia The All-Star Game. https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/bidens-lies-about-voter-law-cost-georgia-the-all-star-game/ MLB All-Star Game moves to Colorado despite stricter voting ... https://nypost.com/2021/04/06/mlbs-all-star-game-moves-to-colorado-despite-stricter-voting-laws/ 59 mins ago — Critics are scratching their heads over Major League Baseball's decision to move its All-Star game from Georgia to Colorado. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: My previous answer covered that. Fewer opportunities to vote make it harder to vote. I hate it that you might not understand. So if you need me to explain it in simpler terms, just ask I'm not taking your word for it. I asked you to point to specific parts of the Bill that makes it harder for working people to vote. Edited April 6, 2021 by Chef Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: He cannot. You will get the same dodge as the hundred times past. Well we are already off the MLB part..................as was easy to predict. FAIRNESS! MLB Moves This Summer’s All-Star Game From Atlanta to One of the Whitest Cities in America. https://pjmedia.com/culture/bryan-preston/2021/04/05/breaking-mlb-moves-this-summers-all-star-game-from-atlanta-to-one-of-the-whitest-cities-in-america- n1437635 Biden’s Lies About Voter Law Cost Georgia The All-Star Game. https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/bidens-lies-about-voter-law-cost-georgia-the-all-star-game/ MLB All-Star Game moves to Colorado despite stricter voting ... https://nypost.com/2021/04/06/mlbs-all-star-game-moves-to-colorado-despite-stricter-voting-laws/ 59 mins ago — Critics are scratching their heads over Major League Baseball's decision to move its All-Star game from Georgia to Colorado. But weed's legal in CO so we're good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I'm not taking your word for it. I asked you to point to specific parts of the Bill that makes it harder for working people to vote. Then look it up. You won’t take my word anyway 😂 😆 😝 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Then look it up. You won’t take my word anyway 😂 😆 😝 I asked for your opinion for something specific and you gave a vague lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Then look it up. You won’t take my word anyway 😂 😆 😝 What exactly am I to look up? I'm not making any accusations. You're the one with the accusations. All I'm simply doing is asking you to point to the part of the Bill (linked below) that you used to form your opinion that it a) takes away voting rights and b) makes it harder for working people to vote. https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Its been pointed out elsewhere that MLB has no issue with voting rights in places like China and Cuba as they are more interested in loot than votes in those places. What do my liberal friends here have to say about that inconsistency? Or is your outrage confined to the domestic front? Recent polls show 72% of American voters agree that identification should be required to vote much like to board a plane or in my state to buy cough medicine at the grocery store. A majority of voters considering themselves to be Democrats, Republicans, and Independents all polled a majority for each group. So shouldn't democracy prevail? I've also seen comparisons of the Georgia law to other states where 19 other states are more restrictive including the Presidents home state of Delaware. You'd expect he would want to get on that immediately to eliminate his place of residence from his "Jim Crow" list. But not a peep as outrage is conditional. Conditions being what we do is okay and what others do is not. As for baseball the only use I have for it is to turn on a game in order to put me to sleep when I need a nap. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Yeah but think of all those black and brown people without any form of ID at all and no way to get a free one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I asked for your opinion for something specific and you gave a vague lie. It’s a lie they are lessening the hours, locations and methods of voting? Wow! You know. You speak with forked tongue. You know 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Its been pointed out elsewhere that MLB has no issue with voting rights in places like China and Cuba as they are more interested in loot than votes in those places. What do my liberal friends here have to say about that inconsistency? Or is your outrage confined to the domestic front? Recent polls show 72% of American voters agree that identification should be required to vote much like to board a plane or in my state to buy cough medicine at the grocery store. A majority of voters considering themselves to be Democrats, Republicans, and Independents all polled a majority for each group. So shouldn't democracy prevail? I've also seen comparisons of the Georgia law to other states where 19 other states are more restrictive including the Presidents home state of Delaware. You'd expect he would want to get on that immediately to eliminate his place of residence from his "Jim Crow" list. But not a peep as outrage is conditional. Conditions being what we do is okay and what others do is not. As for baseball the only use I have for it is to turn on a game in order to put me to sleep when I need a nap. China and Cuba? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It’s a lie they are lessening the hours, locations and methods of voting? Can working people vote by mail in GA? Do you work? How do you vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 ‘Hey look, someone else who hasn’t read the Georgia law’! Shannon Sharpe weighs in on MLB’s decision to pull All-Star Game from Atlanta https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/04/06/hey-look-someone-else-who-hasnt-read-the-georgia-law-shannon-sharpe-weighs-in-on-mlbs-decision-to-pull-all-star-game-from-atlanta-video/ ‘Kudos on your epic fail’! MLB All-Star game reportedly being moved to state ‘that also requires voter ID and has fewer early voting days’ https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/04/05/kudos-on-your-epic-fail-mlb-all-star-game-reportedly-being-moved-to-state-that-also-requires-voter-id-and-has-fewer-early-voting-days/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It’s a lie they are lessening the hours, locations and methods of voting? What were previous hours and what are current hours? What method has been taken away? And the "location" change is the drop boxes which will be in secure locations. Basically their dropbox laws now read like Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: It’s a lie they are lessening the hours, locations and methods of voting? Wow! You know. You speak with forked tongue. You know China and Cuba? 😂 Yes, China and Cuba. Two countries on planet Earth where voters have no rights of any kind where MLB does business. I get you're evasive and refuse to admit or acknowledge any liberal hypocrisy. But perhaps rather than dodge my questions you could once in a while answer or rebut them? Say I'm wrong, call me out, or provide some insightful counterpoint. That would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, B-Man said: ‘Hey look, someone else who hasn’t read the Georgia law’! Shannon Sharpe weighs in on MLB’s decision to pull All-Star Game from Atlanta https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/04/06/hey-look-someone-else-who-hasnt-read-the-georgia-law-shannon-sharpe-weighs-in-on-mlbs-decision-to-pull-all-star-game-from-atlanta-video/ ‘Kudos on your epic fail’! MLB All-Star game reportedly being moved to state ‘that also requires voter ID and has fewer early voting days’ https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/04/05/kudos-on-your-epic-fail-mlb-all-star-game-reportedly-being-moved-to-state-that-also-requires-voter-id-and-has-fewer-early-voting-days/ This election law will do exactly what it was suppose to stop, get rid the GQP majority in that state. The people will vote, and Georgia will go blue, just like Virginia did. North Carolina, we are coming for you next!!! 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: What were previous hours and what are current hours? What method has been taken away? And the "location" change is the drop boxes which will be in secure locations. Basically their dropbox laws now read like Florida. Is that a yes, or no? All I see are questions designed to muddy the water 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Yes, China and Cuba. Two countries on planet Earth where voters have no rights of any kind where MLB does business. I get you're evasive and refuse to admit or acknowledge any liberal hypocrisy. But perhaps rather than dodge my questions you could once in a while answer or rebut them? Say I'm wrong, call me out, or provide some insightful counterpoint. That would be appreciated. So you want to make it harder for people to vote in the USA and used authoritarian governments as an excuse for it? Sad You guys are on the way out. It’s funny watching you struggle to stay afloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: This election law will do exactly what it was suppose to stop, get rid the GQP majority in that state. The people will vote, and Georgia will go blue, just like Virginia did. North Carolina, we are coming for you next!!! Gee. I thought it was so EVERYONE could vote fairly, black and white. Rich and poor. Now you tell me that the actual goal is to get rid of Republicans and push for Democrat party rule. Thanks for pointing the real purpose of HR1 to everyone here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: This election law will do exactly what it was suppose to stop, get rid the GQP majority in that state. The people will vote, and Georgia will go blue, just like Virginia did. Is that a yes, or no? All I see are questions designed to muddy the water I ask for specifics to "muddy the water"? Please just admit you have not read the bill and literally have no clue what was in it. Biden has already been called out as a liar by the WP for saying the crap you are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: This election law will do exactly what it was suppose to stop, get rid the GQP majority in that state. The people will vote, and Georgia will go blue, just like Virginia did. North Carolina, we are coming for you next!!! Is that a yes, or no? All I see are questions designed to muddy the water So you want to make it harder for people to vote in the USA and used authoritarian governments as an excuse for it? Sad You guys are on the way out. It’s funny watching you struggle to stay afloat. Struggle? No not us. You're flopping in the breeze young man. So if this Bill is going to turn GA blue what's the problem? This makes it a wonderful Bill correct? I see a lot of unfounded hysteria and confusion from you. Again..... Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 One important issue that many in the national media are ignoring, as pointed out here by Sen. Tim Scott, is that MLB moved the All-Star game from Atlanta whose population is 51% Black to Denver which is 9.2% Black all in the name of protecting Black voters who are allegedly harmed by Georgia’s new voting law which just happens to be similar to Colorado’s existing voting law: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Blame Senile Joe and his lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I ask for specifics to "muddy the water"? Please just admit you have not read the bill and literally have no clue what was in it. Biden has already been called out as a liar by the WP for saying the crap you are. I know what’s in it, I see the pattern, less time, fewer locations, fewer methods. Republicans are pretending like this bill is legit. Why was it passed? It was passed because Republicans lost Georgia by 38,000 votes. Everyone knows this bill is trying to shave off 38,000 votes...or more. Obviously 1 minute ago, Doc said: Blame Senile Joe and his lying. Yes! He won Georgia! Thus setting off this chain of events by Republicans to try and even the playing field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I will start with I support all of the requirements I have seen from the law and it is similar to what we have in Florida. The MLB reaction though might be the worst thought out reaction in sports history. They already know they messed up and are trying to not discuss what was "objectionable" because Colorado has similar laws. MLB.com as of 1130 this morning has zero mentions of ASG and it being moved or any mention of standing up for voters. Nah....Glad to see the normal world calling out the GOP for the total douchebags they have turned into. GA legislation is a direct response to the loss. The GOP has won 1 of the last 8 POTUS popular votes and are doing nothing to change that. GOP needs to disintegrate and come back...the country would be better for it. No voting crap is the - hopefully - last flailings - of a bad 40 year Chapter for the GOP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 33 minutes ago, B-Man said: Gee. I thought it was so EVERYONE could vote fairly, black and white. Rich and poor. Now you tell me that the actual goal is to get rid of Republicans and push for Democrat party rule. Thanks for pointing the real purpose of HR1 to everyone here. Why is this all happening? This law is a reaction to GQP losing in Georgia. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Profiles in Courage......... BIDEN TRIES TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM WOKE MLB DECISION https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/04/biden-tries-to-distance-himself-from-woke-mlb-decision.php The White House is trying to insulate Joe Biden from Major League Baseball’s decision to take the all-star game away from Atlanta (it will be played in Denver, Colorado where, arguably, it’s a little easier to vote, legitimately and fraudulently). It’s understandable that Team Biden wants to distance the president from the decision, given the blowback it has produced, plus the poll showing that more Americans support Georgia’s election law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Profiles in Courage......... BIDEN TRIES TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM WOKE MLB DECISION https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/04/biden-tries-to-distance-himself-from-woke-mlb-decision.php The White House is trying to insulate Joe Biden from Major League Baseball’s decision to take the all-star game away from Atlanta (it will be played in Denver, Colorado where, arguably, it’s a little easier to vote, legitimately and fraudulently). It’s understandable that Team Biden wants to distance the president from the decision, given the blowback it has produced, plus the poll showing that more Americans support Georgia’s election law Now isn't this interesting. A lot of this hubbub is because of Joe's Jim Crow on steroids comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 30 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yes! He won Georgia! Thus setting off this chain of events by Republicans to try and even the playing field. Interesting you put it that way. And very telling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 The All-Star Game thing really is progressivism in a nutshell: -Liberals mad about "racist" voter ID laws -Push game out of 51% black Atlanta -Cost Atlanta $100 million -Move game to 9% black Denver -Denver has same "racist" voter ID laws -"We fixed racism!" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 PUNCH BACK TWICE AS HARD: Ga. State Rep. Calls Joe Biden’s Bluff on Georgia’s ‘Jim Crow on Steroids.’ https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2021/04/06/ga-state-rep-calls-joe-bidens-bluff-on-georgias-jim-crow-on-steroids-n1437700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) I support a photo ID for voting... But if people want to use the excuse that not everyone can afford one (which is a legitimate excuse, and not just for minorities) perhaps each state can provide each citizen with a photo ID, free of charge, when they turn 18? Or perhaps it could be done on a federal level? I’m normally against raising taxes...but I would support it on this issue...Voter fraud happens every election, and helping to eliminate it, any way possible, is much too important...and it’s something, I’m sure, every law abiding citizen could get behind... Where there is a will, there is a way...👍 Edited April 6, 2021 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, B-Man said: PUNCH BACK TWICE AS HARD: Ga. State Rep. Calls Joe Biden’s Bluff on Georgia’s ‘Jim Crow on Steroids.’ https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2021/04/06/ga-state-rep-calls-joe-bidens-bluff-on-georgias-jim-crow-on-steroids-n1437700 Yup. Jim Crow on Steroids. THIS is what has gotten me so passionate about this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Great analysis of why the comparison of Georgia and Colorado voting laws is dumb: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/06/colorado-voting-laws-vs-georgia/ Every state should adopt the Colorado system where everyone gets a mail in ballot mailed to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I support a photo ID for voting... But if people want to use the excuse that not everyone can afford one (which is a legitimate excuse, and not just for minorities) perhaps each state can provide each citizen with a photo ID, free of charge, when they turn 18? Or perhaps it could be done on a federal level? I’m normally against raising taxes...but I would support it on this issue...Voter fraud happens every election, and helping to eliminate it, any way possible, is much too important...and it’s something, I’m sure, every law abiding citizen could get behind... Where there is a will, there is a way...👍 If you can't afford a voter ID in GA you shouldn't be able to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: If you can't afford a voter ID in GA you shouldn't be able to vote. I see your point, and it has its merits...my goal is simply to take away any argument against ensuring ONLY legal, living citizens vote... When people suggest voter ID, the argument on the Left is that it’s racist...I contend it’s not racist if poor people of all races can’t afford it...but, whether people agree about that or not, why not just make it available to everyone so there is no more excuses of why we don’t have voter ID? A common sense solution to a fixable problem...👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I see your point, and it has its merits...my goal is simply to take away any argument against ensuring ONLY legal, living citizens vote... When people suggest voter ID, the argument on the Left is that it’s racist...I contend it’s not racist if poor people of all races can’t afford it...but, whether people agree about that or not, why not just make it available to everyone so there is no more excuses of why we don’t have voter ID? A common sense solution to a fixable problem...👍 I don't think you did see my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Just now, Chef Jim said: I don't think you did see my point. My apologies...are you able to elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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