Tenhigh Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Maybe I am just cynical, but to me this is about 95% political theater. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Tenhigh said: Maybe I am just cynical, but to me this is about 95% political theater. Of course it's 100% political theater. If the FBI couldn't uncover anything in the past year and a half, what makes you think a bunch of Congresscritters can? No one really cares about this because most realize it was a protest that got out-of-hand and that the government was never in any danger. The only ones who care and believe it are those on the left who can't admit that Biden's been a disaster and need anything they can get to hopefully stave-off the massacre that's coming in November. It doesn't really matter when they hold this dog-and-pony show, but they are holding it way too early. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 8 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Investigations take time. Especially when witnesses don't cooperate. Taking the time to do a thorough investigation is better than rushing through it. That being said, there's a hard stop they need to account for because the GOP will shut down the committee in January in the very likely event that they take the House. When you have all the video that they have there is limited need for testimony. But you are new I ask again- what is the purpose of this "investigation"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: When you have all the video that they have there is limited need for testimony. But you are new I ask again- what is the purpose of this "investigation"? There was an attempt to overthrow an election result based on conspiracies and a wild misreading of the law. The point of the investigation is to determine what exactly happened and how it can be prevented in the future. The video is good for going after the people in the crowd but it is important to know if there was an actual plot to storm the Capitol, and if so, who was involved. That takes more than cameras. It takes investigation, interrogations, charging the small fish to get them to roll on bigger fish, etc. I’m not going to pretend to know if there was some grand conspiracy that rolls up to Trump (“We finally got him!” -Some Libs for the 20th time…) but we exist as a nation because of the peaceful transition of power. People tried to prevent it in 2020 and it would be good to know how to shut that down in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: There was an attempt to overthrow an election result based on conspiracies and a wild misreading of the law. The point of the investigation is to determine what exactly happened and how it can be prevented in the future. The video is good for going after the people in the crowd but it is important to know if there was an actual plot to storm the Capitol, and if so, who was involved. That takes more than cameras. It takes investigation, interrogations, charging the small fish to get them to roll on bigger fish, etc. I’m not going to pretend to know if there was some grand conspiracy that rolls up to Trump (“We finally got him!” -Some Libs for the 20th time…) but we exist as a nation because of the peaceful transition of power. People tried to prevent it in 2020 and it would be good to know how to shut that down in the future. To prevent in future have extra guards at the Capitol when there is a known protest in town. If they wanted to know about the conspiracy then we would need to speak with Nancy Pelosi to determine why she refused extra security. Or mayor Bowser to see why she rejected the National Guard. Also we already tried Trump for causing it in Congress, so unless everyone who voted to impeach is admitting they did so for dishonest reasons there is no reason for this sham. Lastly we have seen enough pictures to know this was not some grand conspiracy of Trump people, this is 100% political and you know it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 10 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: To prevent in future have extra guards at the Capitol when there is a known protest in town. If they wanted to know about the conspiracy then we would need to speak with Nancy Pelosi to determine why she refused extra security. Or mayor Bowser to see why she rejected the National Guard. Also we already tried Trump for causing it in Congress, so unless everyone who voted to impeach is admitting they did so for dishonest reasons there is no reason for this sham. Lastly we have seen enough pictures to know this was not some grand conspiracy of Trump people, this is 100% political and you know it I think there are still some unanswered questions (what was Trump doing during the attack?) and I’m curious to see what is in Mark Meadow’s texts. I am not going to draw any conclusions until we see the evidence but it’s surprising to me that people wouldn’t want to know what the committee has found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: I think there are still some unanswered questions (what was Trump doing during the attack?) and I’m curious to see what is in Mark Meadow’s texts. I am not going to draw any conclusions until we see the evidence but it’s surprising to me that people wouldn’t want to know what the committee has found. We know what the committee has found- nothing of importance. There is literally nothing they will find because the few people who could have benefitted are not Trump or any Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 June 4th 2022. Number of Americans charged with insurrection: 0.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I think there are still some unanswered questions (what was Trump doing during the attack?) and I’m curious to see what is in Mark Meadow’s texts. Yes, it would be great to know what exactly Trump was doing after he explicitly asked people to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 5 hours ago, ChiGoose said: I think there are still some unanswered questions (what was Trump doing during the attack?) and I’m curious to see what is in Mark Meadow’s texts. I am not going to draw any conclusions until we see the evidence but it’s surprising to me that people wouldn’t want to know what the committee has found. What is it that you’re looking to know? The event happened, people walked into the Capitol, and then ….went home. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: What is it that you’re looking to know? The event happened, people walked into the Capitol, and then ….went home. No? some of us walked around the outside of the Capitol, then went to our hotels and partied in the lobby all night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: What is it that you’re looking to know? The event happened, people walked into the Capitol, and then ….went home. No? Was there an organized plan to prevent the certification of the election, and if so, who was involved and what role did they play? While most of the people there were likely just swept up into the rally fervor, it is important to know if there were people who actually planned to prevent certification and what actions they took. Edited June 4, 2022 by ChiGoose Typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Beach said: some of us walked around the outside of the Capitol, then went to our hotels and partied in the lobby all night Mystery solved….. 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: Was there an organized plan to prevent the certification of the election, and if so, who was involved and what plea did they play? While most of the people there were likely just swept up into the rally fervor, it is important to know if there were people who actually planned to prevent certification and what actions they took. Sheeesh….yes I’m sure you’re right. The master plan by the evil genius was to send a guy dressed like a bear into the rotunda so as to overthrow the government. Come on now. We ALL saw what happened. There’s real time video. Enough already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Was there an organized plan to prevent the certification of the election, and if so, who was involved and what role did they play? While most of the people there were likely just swept up into the rally fervor, it is important to know if there were people who actually planned to prevent certification and what actions they took. Obviously there was no plan since no weapons were brought to the Capitol. The Oath Keepers brought some to DC, but left them in their hotel rooms. Without weapons (and Joke said it would take F-15s and nukes to overthrow a goverment), there was no threat to our democracy, and everyone left on their own after getting bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Mystery solved….. Sheeesh….yes I’m sure you’re right. The master plan by the evil genius was to send a guy dressed like a bear into the rotunda so as to overthrow the government. Come on now. We ALL saw what happened. There’s real time video. Enough already. Well, if that’s all there is, the hearings will certainly be a dud. But if they have evidence of a plot to prevent certification or that those with authority to call in help to stop the insurrection intentionally did not do so, then we should see it. And that kind of evidence wouldn’t be something seen on Capitol security cameras. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Just now, ChiGoose said: Well, if that’s all there is, the hearings will certainly be a dud. But if they have evidence of a plot to prevent certification or that those with authority to call in help to stop the insurrection intentionally did not do so, then we should see it. And that kind of evidence wouldn’t be something seen on Capitol security cameras. And when exactly was THAT plan supposed to be carried out? Was it after the guy in the bear suit left the building? Come on! Enough already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Just now, ChiGoose said: Well, if that’s all there is, the hearings will certainly be a dud. But if they have evidence of a plot to prevent certification or that those with authority to call in help to stop the insurrection intentionally did not do so, then we should see it. And that kind of evidence wouldn’t be something seen on Capitol security cameras. Actually I'd like to know who prevented additional security from being provided and for that person to face some kind of punishment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: And when exactly was THAT plan supposed to be carried out? Was it after the guy in the bear suit left the building? Come on! Enough already. I don’t personally know, but potentially to cause enough disruption to prevent certification that day and give people like John Eastman more time to make legal arguments. Or maybe it’s nothing! But it’s insane to not even look into it. I see no reason to believe the QAnon Shaman was part of a plan. He was likely just another poor mark who got swept up into the fervor. 1 minute ago, Doc said: Actually I'd like to know who prevented additional security from being provided and for that person to face some kind of punishment. Agreed. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 There had to be a smarter way to phrase what he was saying. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: There had to be a smarter way to phrase what he was saying. Gohmert and smart have never and will never belong in the same sentence unless smart is preceded by the word not. I couldn't believe what I heard even knowing beforehand this orc took the short bus to school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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