Madbillsfan 54 Posted Friday at 04:05 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:05 PM 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Why do you think that? Because of his success and it’s rarity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mountain Man 465 Posted Sunday at 08:43 AM Share Posted Sunday at 08:43 AM (edited) On 22/02/2021 at 10:38 AM, Thurman#1 said: And the reason you can't be great at every position has a lot more to do with human fallibility than money. No it isn't. It's money. It's why a rookie QB contract is the best time to win a SuperBowl. Virtually every SuperBowl winner with a 2nd contract QB has some obvious roster flaw, there isn't enough cap money not to. Its why paying for competent but not elite QBs puts teams into mediocrity cycles. The Milano issue is also made easier by this year's draft. There are plenty of options, its one of the better positions this year. Every position ranking article I've seen has it in the top half this year Edited Sunday at 08:49 AM by Mountain Man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thurman#1 2,405 Posted Sunday at 09:00 AM Share Posted Sunday at 09:00 AM (edited) 20 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: No it isn't. It's money. It's why a rookie QB contract is the best time to win a SuperBowl. Virtually every SuperBowl winner with a 2nd contract QB has some obvious roster flaw, there isn't enough cap money not to. Its why paying for competent but not elite QBs puts teams into mediocrity cycles No, it isn't money. It's human fallibility. A perfect GM who always made the exact correct pick every round and brought in the best possible bargains at FA would in a not very long time end up winning most Super Bowls. And if rookie QB contracts are the best time to win a Super Bowl, how come most Super Bowls are not won by QBs on rookie contracts? How come no QBs on rookie contracts even made the SB this year? Obviously, a rookie contract for your QB helps you financially, but And paying for competent but not elite QBs can either put your team into mediocrity cycles or win you Super Bowls (Nick Foles' Philly contract when the Eagles won behind Wentz and Foles, for example, or when Denver won with Peyton well beyond his elite years, or paying for Eli Manning who was a very good QB but certainly never elite). Paying too much for a QB is an excellent example of human fallibility. It often means a GM is desperate to post a winning record the next year or two in a poorly guided mission to keep his job. Don't get me wrong, the cap is huge, I get that. But my post you replied to said that the reason you can't "be great at every position" was human fallibility rather than money, and that's correct. GM fallibility for bringing in the wrong guys and player fallibility for not maximizing themselves. Imagine if you could've put Josh Allen's brain inside JaMarcus Russell. Carson Wentz begins to look like a guy who could also stand a brain transfusion from a great QB, though it's still early enough that he's got a chance to be great. Even the teams with the best salary cap situations can't address every position well enough to be great at every position, or even close. On 2/25/2021 at 11:09 PM, colin said: never say never It ain't us, it's the coaching staff. They drafted him and immediately declared him MLB and they've backed that up ever since. It's nutsy fans who want him to change in Buffalo. It's not the Bills. Edited Sunday at 09:04 AM by Thurman#1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ridgewaycynic2013 7,339 Posted Sunday at 03:51 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:51 PM On 2/21/2021 at 10:37 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: He just posted two things on Instagram: 1) himself at Papi's Steakhouse in Miami with a yacht salesman (like literally - tagged guy who is identified as a yacht salesman) This is Milano's dream. ⬆️ This is the probable reality. ⬇️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hapless Bills Fan 25,840 Posted Sunday at 04:20 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:20 PM 24 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: This is Milano's dream. ⬆️ This is the probable reality. ⬇️ Why do people post this stuff? Even as a 5th round draft choice on a rookie deal, Milano reportedly has earned $4M in the last 4 years. That puts him in the top 0.07% of the US population. Even if he doesn't get the top-10 LB contract of his dreams, he can buy a damned fine boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ridgewaycynic2013 7,339 Posted Sunday at 04:28 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:28 PM (edited) 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Why do people post this stuff? Even as a 5th round draft choice on a rookie deal, Milano reportedly has earned $4M in the last 4 years. That puts him in the top 0.07% of the US population. Even if he doesn't get the top-10 LB contract of his dreams, he can buy a damned fine boat. Understood, and I am not understating his value as a player. I was just enjoying the fact that earlier in the thread it was mentioned that perhaps Milano's agent might be inflating his worth. I projected it out as therefore inflating Milano's expectations regarding his range of boats available. Perhaps I should have Googled something other than 'guy eating sandwich in boat'. 😁 Edited Sunday at 04:32 PM by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hapless Bills Fan 25,840 Posted Sunday at 05:00 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:00 PM 39 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Understood, and I am not understating his value as a player. I was just enjoy the fact that earlier in the thread it was mentioned that perhaps Milano's agent might be inflating his worth. I projected it out as therefore inflating Milano's expectations regarding his range of boats available. Perhaps I should have Googled something other than 'guy eating sandwich in boat'. 😁 I suppose it's just my personal tick when people start talking about players who get cut after a fully- or partly-guaranteed rookie contract as bound for "flipping burgers" or something. It's certainly true that guys who dedicated themselves to the craft of football in college, didn't obtain a degree or any useful skills, and didn't make it in the NFL might wind up working minimum wage jobs. Guys who come into the NFL like Vince Young and spend big money buying cars and flashy diamond-studded jewelry might wind up there. But guys who actually make it to the NFL, even as a practice squad member, are doing OK. Rookies who go through training camp and are signed to the practice squad earn around $150,000 (plus room board and travel pre-season, and food during the season). That puts them in the 90+ percentile for all US workers, and certainly at the top edge for guys fresh out of college, where the average starting salary is $50,000. In his Tim Graham and Friends podcast when he interviewed Jon Feliciano who was sitting on his patio outside in Florida, Graham nagged him to pan around his yard and show it and asked him if it was his new house. Mongo has a beautiful high-roofed patio with nice furniture and shade curtains, and a large in-ground pool, but nothing too "ultra" by well-to-do S. Florida standards. Graham commented that people would think he doesn't need a big contract since he's already got all that. I thought it was an ultra-tacky comment by Graham, especially after Jon Zoomed in to talk to him and he persuaded Jon to forfeit some privacy and show him. Again, just my personal tick, your post isn't any more "extra" than a lot here. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dukestreetking 264 Posted Sunday at 10:23 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:23 PM Interestingly enough, there is a former Bill (I'm reluctant to give name) who specializes in making sure that the Mongo's, Milanos, and others maintain the wealth they accumulate as active players. He tries to get to them early. By all accounts, he's been very successful w athletes and their financial planning. My sense is that players trust him because, in fact, he played, and he's damn good at what he does (and really a good dude on top of it all). Hopefully, all our young players turn to this guy (or others like him) so there is no DT situation down the road. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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