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3 hours ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

Come in acting a racist, be prepared to be called a racist. 

 

 

 

Who?

 

Only racism I saw here today was some lib assumed all people burning those cities dow....I mean Peacefully Protesting were all Black.  And everyone at the DC They Stole 2020 Rally was white.  

 

Pretty freaking racist if you ask me.  

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14 hours ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

Come in acting a racist, be prepared to be called a racist. 

 

This run on sentence is a mind fvck of #FakeNews and conspiracy you swallowed from Trump loving Twitter accounts then shat out whole for all to read

 

I guess we could ask how did the liberal establishment and their drones that supported rioting and looting from groups like Antifa and BLM along with calls and legislation to de-fund the police, participated in nauseating public displays of obedience and submission to BLM, support for the defacing and attacking of public buildings, and mobs tearing down statues and national monuments without due process of the law suddenly become big supporters of law and order? 

 

We could pick it apart piece by piece, but instead let's just call you what you are - a brainwashed racist. 

Well then pick it apart rather than call someone you know absolutely nothing about a racist.  What your doing is using your own stereotypes and biases to make an uninformed conclusion.  That's something you might want to avoid. 

 

But what specifically is racist about what I wrote above?  Its the God's honest truth.  Is it that I dared to criticize BLM for using violence?  Well they did.  That's a fact.  Are you saying speaking or writing the truth is racist?  if you believe that there's something fundamentally wrong with your thought process.  You can make all kinds of excuses to deny reality.  One of them is the kill the messenger approach.  You seem to have that one perfected.  But its a false argument.  I stand by my contention.  The liberal establishment was comfortable using and supporting violent acts when it served their purposes but now that it doesn't they assume the law and order stance.  Now they fake all kinds of sympathy and support for law enforcement.  If I was a member of law enforcement I wouldn't buy it for a second.  And personally, I wouldn't put my life on the line to protect these parasites.  Let them take the bullet, why should I step into the line of fire?  These liberal intellectuals are among the worst kinds of hypocrites and liars.  They can't be trusted.  I don't understand why you or anyone would trust them.  Or any professional politician for that matter.  But its your choice to do so.  Just to be clear, I'm not defending any alt-right thinkers here either.  Frankly, I have no need for any of them left or right.  I'll form my own views for myself.  Everyone else is free to do the same.  

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54 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

Not worth it when you are regurgitating Trump talking points. Have a nice day.

Will you please stop.  I am not quoting Trump talking points.  When and where did Trump say any of what I wrote?  Frankly, I don't think he's smart or literate enough to write several coherent sentences to form a paragraph.  I am not quoting anyone's talking points or views.  Believe it or not these are my original thoughts.  The product of critical thinking, intellectual curiosity, and a lot of skepticism.  Something I think everyone here is capable of doing for themselves.  Can we please all give each other credit for having our own unique thoughts and opinions here?  Regardless of whether we agree with them or not.          

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20 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Will you please stop.  I am not quoting Trump talking points.  When and where did Trump say any of what I wrote?  Frankly, I don't think he's smart or literate enough to write several coherent sentences to form a paragraph.  I am not quoting anyone's talking points or views.  Believe it or not these are my original thoughts.  The product of critical thinking, intellectual curiosity, and a lot of skepticism.  Something I think everyone here is capable of doing for themselves.  Can we please all give each other credit for having our own unique thoughts and opinions here?  Regardless of whether we agree with them or not.          

 

You seem like a nice enough guy.

 

Here's your statement again, though it's only one semi-coherent sentence.

 

I guess we could ask how did the liberal establishment and their drones that supported rioting and looting from groups like Antifa and BLM along with calls and legislation to de-fund the police, participated in nauseating public displays of obedience and submission to BLM, support for the defacing and attacking of public buildings, and mobs tearing down statues and national monuments without due process of the law suddenly become big supporters of law and order? 

 

Let's start with - who are the liberal establishment and their drones who supported rioting and looting from Antifa and BLM? Like - specific names and groups - who are these establishment folks and their drones?

 

Then show where those specific names supported rioting and looting.

 

 

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Rhodes: Government Will ‘Have to Step in’ if Social Media Won’t ‘Step up’ – Question of Whether Booting Trump Should Be up to Twitter

 

During MSNBC’s Inauguration coverage on Wednesday, former Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes said that there are huge questions on “whether or not someone has to step in and regulate these platforms so that it’s not left to the CEO of Twitter to make a decision to kick President Trump off a couple weeks before his term ends” and that if social media companies don’t “step up” then “government’s going to have to step in as well.”

 

Rhodes said, “I think from a policy perspective, Nicolle, there are big questions about the future of social media in this country, whether or not someone has to step in and regulate these platforms so that it’s not left to the CEO of Twitter to make a decision to kick President Trump off a couple weeks before his term ends and after the Democrats have won back control of government. But rather, can government work with these tech companies to determine how they can at least slow the spread of this poisonous disinformation?”

 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/20/rhodes-government-will-have-to-step-in-if-social-media-wont-step-up-question-of-whether-booting-trump-should-be-up-to-twitter/

 

Fascism is when the private sector works in conjunction with their masters and commanders in Government to do what they want.  

 

It's even more egregious when those private companies are the ones that are the primary source of news and information......on the planet.  

 

 

Nothing to see here. 

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22 hours ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

You seem like a nice enough guy.

 

Here's your statement again, though it's only one semi-coherent sentence.

 

I guess we could ask how did the liberal establishment and their drones that supported rioting and looting from groups like Antifa and BLM along with calls and legislation to de-fund the police, participated in nauseating public displays of obedience and submission to BLM, support for the defacing and attacking of public buildings, and mobs tearing down statues and national monuments without due process of the law suddenly become big supporters of law and order? 

 

Let's start with - who are the liberal establishment and their drones who supported rioting and looting from Antifa and BLM? Like - specific names and groups - who are these establishment folks and their drones?

 

Then show where those specific names supported rioting and looting.

 

 

I've given your request some thought.  My problem is you're asking me to do a lot of work here but I'm willing to give a short-version in the paragraph below.  I'm skeptical that anything I post on specific violent events and the lack of any reaction to condemn or denounce the use of violence and intimidation will do anything to sway your view one way or the other.  Plus, if anyone that's paying attention to events doesn't know who the liberal establishment is at this point I can't help them.    And I take exception to characterizing my writing as semi-coherent.  It is very clear, worded well, and syntactically correct. 

 

I could ask you to find references to any statement from officials such as Pelosi or Schumer in denouncing left/liberal violence.  There just aren't any statements until the Capitol violence and then they couldn't keep their mouths shut or their faces away from the cameras.  Circumstantial outrage for political points at its finest.  But they were too busy kneeling and bowing in the Capitol to say anything before this.  Or any other Senator or Congress person.  Or liberal activist media personalities on the networks.  I'm hard pressed to find any statements from current President Biden or VP Harris.  Or former President Obama either.  Those are powerful people that command a lot of attention that chose to remain silent.  The only statements or actions taken against violence by the left came from Mayors Lightfoot in Chicago and Durkan in Seattle.  And those were spoken out of pure self-interest when their homes and families were directly threatened by the mobs.  Attacks on the little people in the streets and their property didn't seem to matter.  And on the media side I recall liberal mouthpiece Don Lemon decried the violence not because it was bad or wrong but because it was negatively impacting Biden's polling numbers at the time and needed to stop.

 

 

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After a dark, painful and deadly four years, we rid ourselves of what House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) aptly called a “stain” on our country. And it is not merely Trump and his unctuous vice president who are leaving.

In every position — those subject to confirmation and those not — we are trading up. Mark Meadows leaves as White House chief of staff; Ronald A. Klain enters. Meadows was the epitome of ineffectiveness, obstruction and dishonesty, even reportedly failing to inform his own staff of the danger they faced from a White House superspreader event. Klain — the hyper-organized, trusted face of Washington — is a throwback to the sort of professional consigliere whom presidents of both parties have relied upon (e.g., James A. Baker III). At the White House press podium, we change out a series of unabashed liars for familiar, respected and cordial figures such as incoming press secretary Jen Psaki. Out goes the anti-labor labor secretary, the anti-environment Environmental Protection Agency administrator and the anti-justice attorney general; in come public servants who understand the missions of their agencies.

Aside from the Justice Department, the most significant upgrade may be at the State Department. Four years ago, Rex Tillerson, an oil executive with no public experience, stumbled his way through his confirmation hearing to lead the department. He was succeeded by Mike Pompeo, who was equally rude, dismissive and unforthcoming with Congress and the media. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/20/it-is-more-than-change-presidents/

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7 hours ago, Motorin' said:


Can we officially say that a majority of Republicans/Trump supporters need closed captioning so normal Americans can understand them?

38 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I've given your request some thought.  My problem is you're asking me to do a lot of work here but I'm willing to give a short-version in the paragraph below.  I'm skeptical that anything I post on specific violent events and the lack of any reaction to condemn or denounce the use of violence and intimidation will do anything to sway your view one way or the other.  Plus, if anyone that's paying attention to events doesn't know who the liberal establishment is at this point I can't help them.    And I take exception to characterizing my writing as semi-coherent.  It is very clear, worded well, and syntactically correct. 

 

I could ask you to find references to any statement from officials such as Pelosi or Schumer in denouncing left/liberal violence.  There just aren't any statements until the Capitol violence and then they couldn't keep their mouths shut or their faces away from the cameras.  Circumstantial outrage for political points at its finest.  But they were too busy kneeling and bowing in the Capitol to say anything before this.  Or any other Senator or Congress person.  Or liberal activist media personalities on the networks.  I'm hard pressed to find any statements from current President Biden or VP Harris.  Or former President Obama either.  Those are powerful people that command a lot of attention that chose to remain silent.  The only statements or actions taken against violence by the left came from Mayors Lightfoot in Chicago and Durkan in Seattle.  And those were spoken out of pure self-interest when their homes and families were directly threatened by the mobs.  Attacks on the little people in the streets and their property didn't seem to matter.  And on the media side I recall liberal mouthpiece Don Lemon decried the violence not because it was bad or wrong but because it was negatively impacting Biden's polling numbers at the time and needed to stop.

 

 


Took me 10 seconds to Google: Pelosi denounce riots

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/08/30/pelosi-condemns-violent-actions-of-antifa-protesters/

 

USA Today has a laundry list of quotes of top Dems condemning the riots prior to the US Capitol.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-democrats-have-condemned-violence-linked-protests/3317862001/

 

Again, a 10 second Google.

 

perhaps before forming an option, do yourself a favor and do a 10 second Google to see if the facts you’re basing your opinion on are true or false.

 

 

 

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Outside of the legislative   filibuster, Dems have a process known as reconciliation that they can pass a budget related legislation with a simple majority.

 

This process was the same used by Republicans to pass the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act and to try and get rid of the Affordable Care Act until John McCain gave his thumbs down.

 

Will Dems use it? What priority will they use it for? I’d predict they will use it and it will either be climate change or student loans.

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55 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:


Can we officially say that a majority of Republicans/Trump supporters need closed captioning so normal Americans can understand them?


Took me 10 seconds to Google: Pelosi denounce riots

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/08/30/pelosi-condemns-violent-actions-of-antifa-protesters/

 

USA Today has a laundry list of quotes of top Dems condemning the riots prior to the US Capitol.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-democrats-have-condemned-violence-linked-protests/3317862001/

 

Again, a 10 second Google.

 

perhaps before forming an option, do yourself a favor and do a 10 second Google to see if the facts you’re basing your opinion on are true or false.

 

 

 

Like I said right around the time when violence impacted polling numbers that saw Biden's lead being eroded.  

 

https://news.yahoo.com/recent-surge-violence-impacting-2020-225306636.html

 

So perhaps you should do some critical thinking and examination of both the motives and the timing behind speaking out.  And for the record.  I am neither a Trump supporter or a Republican.

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7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Like I said right around the time when violence impacted polling numbers that saw Biden's lead being eroded.  

 

https://news.yahoo.com/recent-surge-violence-impacting-2020-225306636.html

 

So perhaps you should do some critical thinking and examination of both the motives and the timing behind speaking out.  And for the record.  I am neither a Trump supporter or a Republican.


I don’t know if you know much about how polling goes but usually it takes time to get results and publish them, then act on them.

 

just from the article I posted: 

On May 31, the fifth night of demonstrations, former Vice President Joe Biden, the party’s presumptive nominee, wrote in a statement that protesting police brutality is “right and necessary” and the “American response."But burning down communities and needless destruction is not,” Biden wrote. “Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.”

 

On June 3, Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., the majority whip of the House of Representatives, told The Washington Post that the movement for racial justice suffers when it is “hijacked” by violence.

 

The face of the Democrat party and another high ranking politician speaking out far before polls would have come in and far before the publication date of your article.

 

 

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50 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:


I don’t know if you know much about how polling goes but usually it takes time to get results and publish them, then act on them.

 

just from the article I posted: 

On May 31, the fifth night of demonstrations, former Vice President Joe Biden, the party’s presumptive nominee, wrote in a statement that protesting police brutality is “right and necessary” and the “American response."But burning down communities and needless destruction is not,” Biden wrote. “Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.”

 

On June 3, Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., the majority whip of the House of Representatives, told The Washington Post that the movement for racial justice suffers when it is “hijacked” by violence.

 

The face of the Democrat party and another high ranking politician speaking out far before polls would have come in and far before the publication date of your article.

 

 

My final thought is this..  Its one thing to speak out against something.  As the saying goes talk is cheap.  Its another thing to do take action and to back up the talk.  As we know most of these violent demonstrations, destruction of property, clashes among opposing groups, and events took place in Democratically controlled cities and states where the entire apparatus of government was controlled by the party.  But police were ordered to back off, prosecutors released those arrested (who got re-arrested and re-released) and refused to press charges in most cases.  Mayors abandoned their citizens and allowed the streets to be taken over by anarchists like in Seattle.  They refused to cooperate with Federal agents and officers at all levels.  Organizers bused and flew in professional agitators to various cities all over the country to cause trouble.  Nothing was done to charge these groups with anything like inciting riots or dare I say "insurrection" against the government at one level or another.  Governors held back on utilizing the Guard and State Police resources.  More or less nothing was done and ordinary citizens and businesses were left on their own subject to attacks and destruction of private property.  And now the politicians got the balls to take a law and order stance per the violence at the Capitol as it suits their needs for power.  Are you really comfortable with a government that acts in its own interests as dictated by the circumstances and has little regard for its citizens?  I am not.  No matter which party is in power as I expect the other party would do the same in similar circumstances.        

 

A few weeks back the grand jury in Louisville declined to bring charges against any of the cops in the Brianna Taylor shooting.  Yet the outrage and street demonstrations you'd expect from such a ruling didn't take place.  That seems odd.  If it was before the election we would have seen massive street protests and perhaps more violence and looting.  But we didn't.  Why?  Because there's simply no political points to score at this point since the election is over. 

 

We're all getting played here and pitted against one another in some manufactured conflict of ideologies and beliefs.  I get it, a lot of other people do to, but a lot more don't.  The real enemies aren't you and I disagreeing on interpretations and opinions on events and politics.  Its the .1% running the show and calling all the shots.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

“I give you my word, I will always level with you. I will defend the Constitution. I’ll defend our democracy. I’ll defend America.” 

 

--President Joe Biden 

 

 

Yes!!   Start with the border!!  Like a prior iteration of yourself once believed!!

 

 

  

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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

My final thought is this..  Its one thing to speak out against something.  As the saying goes talk is cheap.  Its another thing to do take action and to back up the talk.  As we know most of these violent demonstrations, destruction of property, clashes among opposing groups, and events took place in Democratically controlled cities and states where the entire apparatus of government was controlled by the party.  But police were ordered to back off, prosecutors released those arrested (who got re-arrested and re-released) and refused to press charges in most cases.  Mayors abandoned their citizens and allowed the streets to be taken over by anarchists like in Seattle.  They refused to cooperate with Federal agents and officers at all levels.  Organizers bused and flew in professional agitators to various cities all over the country to cause trouble.  Nothing was done to charge these groups with anything like inciting riots or dare I say "insurrection" against the government at one level or another.  Governors held back on utilizing the Guard and State Police resources.  More or less nothing was done and ordinary citizens and businesses were left on their own subject to attacks and destruction of private property.  And now the politicians got the balls to take a law and order stance per the violence at the Capitol as it suits their needs for power.  Are you really comfortable with a government that acts in its own interests as dictated by the circumstances and has little regard for its citizens?  I am not.  No matter which party is in power as I expect the other party would do the same in similar circumstances.        

 

A few weeks back the grand jury in Louisville declined to bring charges against any of the cops in the Brianna Taylor shooting.  Yet the outrage and street demonstrations you'd expect from such a ruling didn't take place.  That seems odd.  If it was before the election we would have seen massive street protests and perhaps more violence and looting.  But we didn't.  Why?  Because there's simply no political points to score at this point since the election is over. 

 

We're all getting played here and pitted against one another in some manufactured conflict of ideologies and beliefs.  I get it, a lot of other people do to, but a lot more don't.  The real enemies aren't you and I disagreeing on interpretations and opinions on events and politics.  Its the .1% running the show and calling all the shots.

 

 


You’re moving some goal posts here.

 

Also you point out that most of the riots took place in Democrat controlled cities.

 

The demonstrations were against social injustice toward the black community. Black communities are generally Democratically controlled.

 

You don’t see riots for social injustice in Elma, NY not because it’s Republican controlled town but because it’s 99 percent white. 
 

So it’s more a condition of who the injustice is against that defined where riots took place opposed to which party is in control.

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4 hours ago, aristocrat said:

I wonder how long until the Dems start being uncivil to the right?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/protesters-gather-damage-democratic-headquarters-005147909.html

 

One day

I can admit Biden is not the most obnoxious Leftist but this "Unity" stuff is absurd for most liberals. With all of insults and slurs the left has thrown at Trump and anyone who did not hate him I am confused on how you get to demand unity now. It is like me demanding Pat's* fan get on the Bills bandwagon now that we are winning. If you want unity please start being civil first.

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4 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Are you completely unconscious.  It says they attacked the democratic party headquarters???  In what universe can you begin to try to bring the right into this story.  It's far left being mad at the center left.  

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Are you completely unconscious.  It says they attacked the democratic party headquarters???  In what universe can you begin to try to bring the right into this story.  It's far left being mad at the center left.  

They attacked anyone to the right of them. Dems and police are right of these dopes.

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1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

So you don't think Biden is more conservative than these dopes?

I don't think Biden is conservative, and I know you also know Biden is not conservative.  I also know you're being willfully ignorant.  

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3 minutes ago, daz28 said:

I don't think Biden is conservative, and I know you also know Biden is not conservative.  I also know you're being willfully ignorant.  

I am ignorant that Biden is more conservative than the guys tearing up Portland? I am not sure if your issue is you do not read what I wrote or you are a literal troll but the dudes in Portland are attacking anything that is more conservative than them and I don't understand why you think that is debatable.

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6 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I am ignorant that Biden is more conservative than the guys tearing up Portland? I am not sure if your issue is you do not read what I wrote or you are a literal troll but the dudes in Portland are attacking anything that is more conservative than them and I don't understand why you think that is debatable.

This was the original point:  'I wonder how long until the Dems start being uncivil to the right?'

 

You can act coy, but NO ONE(including you) thought that meant will the far left start being uncivil to Biden.  It meant when will Biden, who promoted unity, be uncivil to the conservatives.  You made a dumb post, and you're trying to weasel out of it.  Also, you edited your post after I replied.  

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4 minutes ago, daz28 said:

This was the original point:  'I wonder how long until the Dems start being uncivil to the right?'

 

You can act coy, but NO ONE(including you) thought that meant will the far left start being uncivil to Biden.  It meant when will Biden, who promoted unity, be uncivil to the conservatives.  You made a dumb post, and you're trying to weasel out of it.  Also, you edited your post after I replied.  

I didn't edit the post- I added a second post but nothing was posted in between, so you are incorrect again. And I am not "weaseling out", I am not changing the argument, I am standing by my words that the Portland dummies are attacking everything to the right of them. You are the one who assumed I meant something different. I gave you a chance to bow out early on but you wanted to prove to me your reading comprehension is limited 

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2 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I didn't edit the post- I added a second post but nothing was posted in between, so you are incorrect again. And I am not "weaseling out", I am not changing the argument, I am standing by my words that the Portland dummies are attacking everything to the right of them. You are the one who assumed I meant something different. I gave you a chance to bow out early on but you wanted to prove to me your reading comprehension is limited 

Adding on to a post after someone replies to it IS editing it. That's why you had to hit the 'edit' button to do it.  

 

For craps and giggles, is there anyone left of the Portland rioters???  If not, then it can be implied that everyone is already to the right of them.

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