trump supporters

[DC Tom]

1 minute ago, daz28 said:

Does it make her any less completely wrong???????????   Does she sound like less of an idiot, because it was before???

 

No, it makes you wrong, because you said she posted it less than a week after an attempted coup.  She didn't.

 

And I already said she's an unholy dingbat.  I've always thought so.  I have no idea why people follow here.  I've heard some do because she's hot...I don't even see that.

[daz28]

2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

No, it makes you wrong, because you said she posted it less than a week after an attempted coup.  She didn't.

 

And I already said she's an unholy dingbat.  I've always thought so.  I have no idea why people follow here.  I've heard some do because she's hot...I don't even see that.

He just posted it, so I would guess it was new(recent).  The point is I made an error, which is very excusable, and she just talks complete nonsense for a living like almost ALL RIGHT WING CELEBS.  I am nonetheless stupid for my error, and she's so dumb that even when i make a mistake I'm still right.  Also, I didn't say you thought anything about her, so don't presuppose I thought you did.

Edited January 9, 2021 by daz28

[GETTOTHE50]

15 minutes ago, daz28 said:

This is a perfect example of what I was just talking about.  He isn't even president yet, but somehow they know the future.  Well, here's a fact for them.  They said the stock market would crash if Biden won, cuz commies are bad for business.  Well, tell me were they right????   Don't matter they just keep talkin crap anyways.  Next fact: skyrocketing gas prices.  Obamas last 3 years were lower prices than Trump first 2.  Does it matter to this guy that it's a verifiable fact?? Apparently not.  Paris accord?   well, there's estimates that the long term costs of global warming are ASTRONOMICAL. It's backed by SCIENTIST.  Don't matter to him.  He'll just say it was 10 degrees last night, or ice ages, as if the scientists COMPLETELY overlooked that factor.  THIS is the type of crap that used to be everyday BS, and I'm so glad it moved to it's only little private Idaho where they can just believe things and they magically become fact.  

 

Your boy Beijing Biden said his plan is based off the framework of the Green New Deal, in other words, a political way of saying, "its pretty much the green new deal".

 

Long term costs of global warming may or may not be astronomical, who knows, I for one dont believe everything a 'scientist' says. Ive done research and have published material (not on global warming) before too (it is not difficult to get published by a 'credible' paper), and it's easy to manipulate data to form your argument. Im just saying, be weary of what these scientists say, because your other boy Al Gore said the arctic ice caps would melt in 2013-2014 while citing these 'scientists' findings.

 

I also think China needs to be the one footing this climate bill since that is the country causing the highest amount of pollution. In fact, some experts say China's amount of pollution cancels what the PAC is suppose to accomplish.

 

I dont want terrible global warming either, but lets get to the heart of this issue- its China and none of our tax dollars should be going overseas to fight a lost battle. 

 

I dont know who said the stock market would 'crash', but thats not a point Im arguing so youre on your own there. Also, not sure about the lower gas prices bit.

 

 

Edited January 9, 2021 by GETTOTHE50

[BillStime]

Just now, daz28 said:

He just posted it, so I would guess it was new(recent).  The point is I made an error, which is very excusable, and she just talks complete nonsense for a living like almost ALL RIGHT WING CELEBS.  I am nonetheless stupid for my error, and she's so dumb that even when i make a mistake I'm still right.

 

Don't sweat it. Tomi posted it ON election day.  DC TOM can't read either.

 

 

[daz28]

1 minute ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

 

Your boy Beijing Biden said his plan is based off the framework of the Green New Deal, in other words, a political way of saying, "its pretty much the green new deal".

 

Long term costs of global warming may or may not be astronomical, who knows, I for one dont believe everything a 'scientist' says. Ive done research and have published material (not on global warming) before too (it is not difficult to get published by a 'credible' paper), and it's easy to manipulate data to your form your argument. Im just saying, be weary of what these scientists say, because your other boy Al Gore said the arctic ice caps would melt in 2013-2014 while citing these 'scientists' findings.

 

I also think China needs to be the one footing this climate bill since that is the country causing the highest amount of pollution. In fact, some experts say China's amount of pollution cancels what the PAC is suppose to accomplish.

 

I dont want terrible global warming either, but lets get to the heart of this issue- its China and none of our tax dollars should be going overseas to fight a lost battle. 

 

I dont know who said the stock market would 'crash', but thats not a point Im arguing so youre on your own there. Also, not sure about the lower gas prices bit.

 

 

Ok I read one line of your post, and already have proof it's a lie.  “The Green New Deal is not my plan,” he said. “…I don’t support the Green New Deal.”  

 

Fact check: Post about Joe Biden, Green New Deal is missing context (usatoday.com)

 

So why should I even bother reading any further if I know you're a liar????

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Don't sweat it. Tomi posted it ON election day.  DC TOM can't read either.

 

 

I ain't sweating it, she's a nitwit, and everything I said about her was right, but I got the date wrong.  Big frickin woop.  If someone wants to nitpick, it's a sign of weakness to me.

[GETTOTHE50]

1 minute ago, daz28 said:

Ok I read one line of your post, and already have proof it's a lie.  “The Green New Deal is not my plan,” he said. “…I don’t support the Green New Deal.”  

 

Fact check: Post about Joe Biden, Green New Deal is missing context (usatoday.com)

 

So why should I even bother reading any further if I know you're a liar????

 

https://joebiden.com/climate-plan/

 

search green new deal you nut and it says what i mentioned before my comma you moron.

[daz28]

Just now, GETTOTHE50 said:

 

https://joebiden.com/climate-plan/

 

search green new deal you nut and it says what i mentioned before my comma you moron.

I know what his plan is.  It's to shift into renewables, but you start right off with "my boy Biden" and "green new deal".  Well you were wrong about both

[BillStime]

Always victims.  Just ask @Deranged Rhino@Buffalo_Gal@DC Tom - the victim card was always their license and justification to shred our constitution and destroy our republic. 

 

 

[Coach Tuesday]

Just now, BillStime said:

Always victims.  Just ask @Deranged Rhino@Buffalo_Gal@DC Tom - the victim card was always their license and justification to shred our constitution and destroy our republic. 

 

 

I don’t think it’s unique to conservatives - it’s a symptom of narcissism.  Which by the way runs rampant here.  The posters you mention are hardly the “personal responsibility” types...

[daz28]

4 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

 

https://joebiden.com/climate-plan/

 

search green new deal you nut and it says what i mentioned before my comma you moron.

Get this straight, I ain't here to listen to anyone spew their nonsense.  If you want to talk, and possibly teach each other things then make a legitimate attempt at it.

[GETTOTHE50]

Just now, daz28 said:

Get this straight, I ain't here to listen to anyone spew their nonsense.  If you want to talk, and possibly teach each other things then make a legitimate attempt at it.

 

i tried, but you didnt even finish my other post. im done wasting time with an idiot like you. but thats the very last thing i wanted to say to you before i go, is that youre an idiot.

[meazza]

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I don’t think it’s unique to conservatives - it’s a symptom of narcissism.  Which by the way runs rampant here.  The posters you mention are hardly the “personal responsibility” types...

 

You don't get it, he hates conservatives.  He doesn't just disagree with them.  He also hates anyone who even deviates from the narrative he believes in because then you're also part of the problem.

 

Example, I'm not a conservative.  Hell I'm not even American, I think you're all entitled pricks who think the world revolves around your ***** politics and yet I'm constantly lumped in with the rest.

[daz28]

Just now, GETTOTHE50 said:

 

i tried, but you didnt even finish my other post. im done wasting time with an idiot like you. but thats the very last thing i wanted to say to you before i go, is that youre an idiot.

Maybe I was born an idiot, but you work hard to be one.  

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, meazza said:

 

You don't get it, he hates conservatives.  He doesn't just disagree with them.  He also hates anyone who even deviates from the narrative he believes in because then you're also part of the problem.

 

Example, I'm not a conservative.  Hell I'm not even American, I think you're all entitled pricks who think the world revolves around your ***** politics and yet I'm constantly lumped in with the rest.

 

[meazza]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

 

That doesn't make any sense but sure.

[daz28]

5 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I don’t think it’s unique to conservatives - it’s a symptom of narcissism.  Which by the way runs rampant here.  The posters you mention are hardly the “personal responsibility” types...

It's not unique to conservatives.  Not at all.  For every person who wants abortions another is against them.  Both feel equally robbed.

2 minutes ago, meazza said:

 

That doesn't make any sense but sure.

It doesn't make any sense.  Almost all people think they're smarter than the other guy.  That's just human nature

[BillStime]

 

 

 

[meazza]

3 minutes ago, daz28 said:

It's not unique to conservatives.  Not at all.  For every person who wants abortions another is against them.  Both feel equally robbed.

It doesn't make any sense.  Almost all people think they're smarter than the other guy.  That's just human nature

 

Hence why Billstime is a hateful individual.  Whatever the hell is going on in his mind needs to be examined by a specialist or maybe a team?

[Coach Tuesday]

7 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Not really no.  Conservativism is the idea that institutions should be designed so as to prevent any one person, or an angry mob, from appropriating too much power too quickly.  Our Constitution is a deeply conservative document - separation of powers was a genius way of making sure that the electorate could vote in a complete idiot or psychopath and they would not be able to do too much damage.  Donald Trump put that system to its ultimate test.  His candidacy, combined with the destructive power of social media/the internet and a horde of angry underclass scarred by decades of economic and educational neglect, was a near-perfect assault on conservatism, ironically.  It is a radical cult movement seeking to tear down the status quo, under the false invocation of conservativism.

Edited January 9, 2021 by Coach Tuesday

[daz28]

2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Not really no.  Conservativism is the idea that institutions should be designed so as to prevent any one person, or an angry mob, from appropriating too much power too quickly.  Our Constitution is a deeply conservative document - separation of powers was a genius way of making sure that the electorate could vote in a complete idiot or psychopath and they would not be able to do too much damage.  Donald Trump put that system to its ultimate test.  His candidacy, combined with the destructive power of social media/the internet and a horde of angry underclass scarred by decades of economic and educational neglect, was a near-perfect assault on conservatism, ironically.  It is a radical cult movement.

I can respect conservatism, but my issue comes when progress could be made, and they get scared.  Maybe the old way isn't better, and you ain't going to know until you try.  This country DOES need to take baby steps.  In fact, the conservatives sometimes want to move backwards.  

4 minutes ago, meazza said:

 

Hence why Billstime is a hateful individual.  Whatever the hell is going on in his mind needs to be examined by a specialist or maybe a team?

You're goading a hateful person, so your aware of that what you're doing is likely to get a reaction.  As usual, both people are wrong in ways

[Coach Tuesday]

3 minutes ago, daz28 said:

I can respect conservatism, but my issue comes when progress could be made, and they get scared.  Maybe the old way isn't better, and you ain't going to know until you try.  This country DOES need to take baby steps.  In fact, the conservatives sometimes want to move backwards.  

Trumpers are not conservatives, they are radicals.  They seek to “conserve” an imagined past, not dissimilar to the National Socialists who, while espousing conservativism, were entirely radical in their destruction of longstanding institutions in the name of restoring some completely made-up fallen order.  Just like Jihadists don’t really believe in God (if they did, they wouldn’t have to do His violent work for him), Trumpers are not conservatives, they aren’t patriots, and they sure as hell don’t love this country - they feel like it has robbed them of what they had coming to them.

Edited January 9, 2021 by Coach Tuesday

[meazza]

2 minutes ago, daz28 said:

I can respect conservatism, but my issue comes when progress could be made, and they get scared.  Maybe the old way isn't better, and you ain't going to know until you try.  This country DOES need to take baby steps.  In fact, the conservatives sometimes want to move backwards.  

You're goading a hateful person, so your aware of that what you're doing is likely to get a reaction.  As usual, both people are wrong in ways

 

I have free time.

[daz28]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

Trumpers are not conservatives, they are radicals.  They seek to “conserve” an imagined past, not dissimilar to the National Socialists who, while espousing conservativism, were entirely radical in their destruction of longstanding institutions.  Just like Jihadists don’t really believe in God (if they did, they wouldn’t have to do His violent work for him), Trumpers are not conservatives, they aren’t patriots, and they sure as hell don’t love this country - they feel like it has robbed them of what they had coming to them.

Well done.  Trump is the same way.  Somehow there ancestors were the ones who did everything and set all the rules, now it's their duty to see it through.  The 'earned' rights and privileges thru birth, because they happen to have been spit out of their mom's vag there.

[BillStime]

Video surfaces of Oregon GOP Rep holding state Capitol door open, allowing protesters to enter

 

 

[daz28]

9 minutes ago, meazza said:

 

Trump is a populist.  

 

Where do you get Jihadist's don't believe in God?  Of course they do.  What they're doing is literally for God.

I'm with you on the Jihad thing.  I didn't get it at all.

[daz28]

11 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Video surfaces of Oregon GOP Rep holding state Capitol door open, allowing protesters to enter

 

 

I don't agree with the title.  I mean if he was smart he would have done exactly what he did, and gtfo of there.  I got news for these jokers next time, they better ALL BE ready to play, because they took out a lot of officers.  Next time it will be guns drawn, and no questions asked.  They are playing a very, very serious game.  

4 minutes ago, meazza said:

 

Trump may have a cult following but he's simply a populist.  70M + people voted for him.

Do you think he feels they're his army?

[daz28]

Just now, meazza said:

 

I don't know what he thinks nor do I care but categorizing 70M + people as cultists is not a good idea for unity.

Well, I'm wondering if we're actually in a civil war??  That's the only why I care.  As far as cult vs populist, well if he can feed them coup-laid, and they're chuggin it, then they are cultists.  All of a sudden I'm kinda concerned about what's really happening.  this may not have been a one n done thing

[daz28]

5 minutes ago, meazza said:

 

When you go to work and look at your colleagues realizing that they voted for a different party, do you want to get revenge or do you just want to get a beer and move on with your life?

 

All this division is exacerbated by media and technology.  

Before Trump I wouldn't have even known hardly ANYONES political affiliation.  Now there's certainly a detectable amount of tension.  and yes, I believe it's because social media not only exacerbates it, but I have a more open view into their personal lives.  My work colleagues are like family too

Edited January 9, 2021 by daz28

[Big Blitz]

9 minutes ago, meazza said:

 

I don't know what he thinks nor do I care but categorizing 70M + people as cultists is not a good idea for unity.

 

 

They aren't interested in unity.

 

Find one....one so called liberal here to first of all, define that, and second challenge them to say the following:

 

"I 100% want Biden to reach across the aisle and work with the GOP and if he refuses and shows zero good faith (eliminates the filibuster, no clear compromise shown) I'll call it out."

 

 

You won't get one person on the left to say that out loud.  

 

Not.  One.  

[daz28]

Just now, meazza said:

 

There are some people I just refuse to talk to, not because they have a political affiliation but because they won't drop it and I'm a relatively level headed guy. Most people just want to get laid and watch Netflix and raise their families but social media and media in general has warped our minds.

 

 

Yeah, it's like people are consumed by it.  i must have been VERY naive when Obama was president.  Sure, I'd argue with my dad, cuz he's Korean war vet repub, but for the most part I had no idea people hated Obama until Trump arrived.  I'm old enough to remember when a few games of pong was enough.  Atari started to get my attention but we still played mad football and screwed around and stuff.  Now electronics is EVERYTHING

 

3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

They aren't interested in unity.

 

Find one....one so called liberal here to first of all, define that, and second challenge them to say the following:

 

"I 100% want Biden to reach across the aisle and work with the GOP and if he refuses and shows zero good faith (eliminates the filibuster, no clear compromise shown) I'll call it out."

 

 

You won't get one person on the left to say that out loud.  

 

Not.  One.  

I'll do that.  I'm older so I remember Tip O'Neill and compromise.  The problem is that's not the culture in Washington.  I'm not sure it has a ton to do with individual citizens that are democrats

 

[transplantbillsfan]

12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

They aren't interested in unity.

 

Find one....one so called liberal here to first of all, define that, and second challenge them to say the following:

 

"I 100% want Biden to reach across the aisle and work with the GOP and if he refuses and shows zero good faith (eliminates the filibuster, no clear compromise shown) I'll call it out."

 

 

You won't get one person on the left to say that out loud.  

 

Not.  One.  

 

Why should liberals say that?

 

In the past, I honestly felt that way.  But Mitch McConnell has shifted my entire political belief system.  Over the last 4 years Trump and McConnell and Republicans used every twisted power they could to get absolutely everything they could do in their power.

 

The hypocrisy of holding the Supreme Court nomination after Scalia died for 10+ months and rushing the nomination of ACB after RBG died is just, frankly, absolutely disgusting.

 

I would like the Democrats to get rid of the filibuster and pack the courts.  When one party controls the House, the Senate, AND the Presidency, you have a mandate.

 

Donald Trump and the Republicans kinda fumbled around when they had all 3 of those, but they passed a disastrous tax reform and tried to overturn Obamacare, but luckily didn't because of John McCain.

 

Donald Trump is the most notable culprit when it comes to our country's divisive rhetoric for a long time now... and it goes all the way back to him propagating the conspiracy theory of birthirism with Obama.

 

But...

 

hey....

 

that's your President, right?

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Why should liberals say that?

 

In the past, I honestly felt that way.  But Mitch McConnell has shifted my entire political belief system.  Over the last 4 years Trump and McConnell and Republicans used every twisted power they could to get absolutely everything they could do in their power.

 

 

Like eliminate the filibuster on lower court justices?

 

Like eliminate the filibuster completely to ram thru GOP Bills.

 

Like use every shady way possible (Cornhusker Kickback, etc) to ram thru a health care bill that was sold as THE fix now its trash we need full universal care.

 

 

Outside of judges you don't like, in what ways did the GOP seek more power in DC? 

 

More importantly, what exactly did they push that was as drastic and divisive a reform as the ACA?  They cut your taxes?  

[daz28]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Like eliminate the filibuster on lower court justices?

 

Like eliminate the filibuster completely to ram thru GOP Bills.

 

Like use every shady way possible (Cornhusker Kickback, etc) to ram thru a health care bill that was sold as THE fix now its trash we need full universal care.

 

 

Outside of judges you don't like, in what ways did the GOP seek more power in DC? 

 

More importantly, what exactly did they push that was as drastic and divisive a reform as the ACA?  They cut your taxes?  

Lets be honest.  As far as nuke moves go they're both pretty equal. 

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Like eliminate the filibuster on lower court justices?

 

Like eliminate the filibuster completely to ram thru GOP Bills.

 

Like use every shady way possible (Cornhusker Kickback, etc) to ram thru a health care bill that was sold as THE fix now its trash we need full universal care.

 

 

Outside of judges you don't like, in what ways did the GOP seek more power in DC? 

 

More importantly, what exactly did they push that was as drastic and divisive a reform as the ACA?  They cut your taxes?  

 

I hope you're proud. You own this.

 

 

[daz28]

Just now, BillStime said:

 

I hope you're proud. You own this.

 

 

C'mon man you know he doesn't condone that.  I'm mad at Trump supporters too, but they weren't the enablers.  It was the Republican Congress that created the Trump monster.  Not the average person who wanted to believe in this guy

 

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, daz28 said:

C'mon man you know he doesn't condone that.  I'm mad at Trump supporters too, but they weren't the enablers.  It was the Republican Congress that created the Trump monster.  Not the average person who wanted to believe in this guy

 

 

Nah, he's an enabler. He owns it.

[daz28]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

Nah, he's an enabler. He owns it.

That's some dirty ass stuff then, but I'd rather hear it from him.  The cops are putting their lives and their families future on the line for us.  That's what I don't get about the coup-laiders.  Somehow they are sooooo sure about fraud and the election is soooo important that if a few hundred or thousand brave young American soldiers and officers die it's worth it. I can't even wrap my head around that 

[Big Blitz]

14 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Lets be honest.  As far as nuke moves go they're both pretty equal. 

 

 

I read that like you were talking about DeAndre Hopkins 

[daz28]

4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

I read that like you were talking about DeAndre Hopkins 

The Repubs really didn't reach across the isle, but I hope we all hope it happens again.  I'm super pissed at Congressional Repubs but there's still work to be done.  The high end partisan politics has to stop

[daz28]

5 minutes ago, meazza said:

 

Nobody reaches across the aisle.  Have you spent a few minutes on twitter?  

I don't understand??