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5 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Was coming here to say the same thing - they are undefeated through 11 games so they deserve a high ranking, but I'm really looking forward to the beating the Bills put on them in a couple of weeks.  They have barely survived a Dallas team that's going nowhere and a team of essentially 3rd stringers in that Baltimore game today.  That being said, it shows that every team towards the top have played games that perhaps they could have won by more or didn't look at great and still won, so I'm very encouraged for these last several games and the playoffs

Can we just agree they’re the worst undefeated team ever?
 

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15 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

Was coming here to say the same thing - they are undefeated through 11 games so they deserve a high ranking, but I'm really looking forward to the beating the Bills put on them in a couple of weeks.  They have barely survived a Dallas team that's going nowhere and a team of essentially 3rd stringers in that Baltimore game today.  That being said, it shows that every team towards the top have played games that perhaps they could have won by more or didn't look at great and still won, so I'm very encouraged for these last several games and the playoffs

 

In between the two games you mentioned, Pittsburgh beat Cincinnati by 16 in Jacksonville by 24, then had their schedule thrown off by covid. The picture of what Pittsburgh is is the fact that they've won 11 in a row and how hard that actually is to do. Where Buffalo catches a break is being the team that plays them the third and they are three games in 11-day stretch here. 

 

what makes Pittsburgh very good and what makes them a team that shouldn't be ranked below too with Drew Brees out is the fact that they have won 11 in a row. In the 16 game season ERA, only 10 teams have started 11 and 0. Seven of them went to the Super Bowl.

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15 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

Was coming here to say the same thing - they are undefeated through 11 games so they deserve a high ranking, but I'm really looking forward to the beating the Bills put on them in a couple of weeks.  They have barely survived a Dallas team that's going nowhere and a team of essentially 3rd stringers in that Baltimore game today.  That being said, it shows that every team towards the top have played games that perhaps they could have won by more or didn't look at great and still won, so I'm very encouraged for these last several games and the playoffs

I’ve been thinking that we’re going to beat the Steelers too.

 

I know it’s just Collinsworth but he said during the Steelers/Ravens game that the Bills/Steelers game could be one of the games of the year. He said that we’re playing out of our minds.

 

Again, I know it’s just him, but when’s the last time anyone said that about our Bills.

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36 minutes ago, y2zipper said:

 

In between the two games you mentioned, Pittsburgh beat Cincinnati by 16 in Jacksonville by 24, then had their schedule thrown off by covid. The picture of what Pittsburgh is is the fact that they've won 11 in a row and how hard that actually is to do. Where Buffalo catches a break is being the team that plays them the third and they are three games in 11-day stretch here. 

 

what makes Pittsburgh very good and what makes them a team that shouldn't be ranked below too with Drew Brees out is the fact that they have won 11 in a row. In the 16 game season ERA, only 10 teams have started 11 and 0. Seven of them went to the Super Bowl.

 

They are a very good team, but they are not unbeatable.  They usually don't blow teams out, and they have survived several late comeback attempts that just fell short(namely Tennessee and Baltimore's 1st game).  They have played close games against bad teams as well.  

 

Are they an overall better team than the Bills? Probably a little bit, but it isn't a huge gap like it used to be with the Patriots versus every other team in the league where they used to blow out other really good teams by 20 or 25 points every game.

 

Bills have a very legit shot to win that game, and I wouldn't necessarily call it an upset either.  Especially with the Bills D rounding into form.  Steelers are not some high powered offense. They do OK some games but they also struggle to move the ball in others.

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32 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said:

I’ve been thinking that we’re going to beat the Steelers too.

 

I know it’s just Collinsworth but he said during the Steelers/Ravens game that the Bills/Steelers game could be one of the games of the year. He said that we’re playing out of our minds.

 

Again, I know it’s just him, but when’s the last time anyone said that about our Bills.

 

Usually talking heads just say Bills' fans are out of their minds.

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On 12/1/2020 at 8:12 PM, Buffalo Timmy said:

I don't what to make of those guys that have us at 4 since I don't think we have played to that level yet but I definitely think the next few weeks will show a lot 

KC, New Orleans, and Pitt would seem to be the obvious top 3.

 

Whoever is at 4?  Really its a matter of personal choice or the flavor-of-the-week.  After the top 3, there probably are 6-7 teams that could be ranked anywhere from 4-10 and it wouldn't be unfair.

 

Buffalo, Tampa, Seattle, Green Bay, Tenn, maybe even still Balt and the Rams...all are in that 2nd tier.

 

Once you get past them, I think you go Indy, Cleveland, Miami, and Arizona...the Raiders barely hanging on to this group, then everyone else.

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1 hour ago, y2zipper said:

 

In between the two games you mentioned, Pittsburgh beat Cincinnati by 16 in Jacksonville by 24, then had their schedule thrown off by covid. The picture of what Pittsburgh is is the fact that they've won 11 in a row and how hard that actually is to do. Where Buffalo catches a break is being the team that plays them the third and they are three games in 11-day stretch here. 

 

what makes Pittsburgh very good and what makes them a team that shouldn't be ranked below too with Drew Brees out is the fact that they have won 11 in a row. In the 16 game season ERA, only 10 teams have started 11 and 0. Seven of them went to the Super Bowl.

Oh I definitely agree that they are a good team - you don't get to 11-0 without being very good.  As I'm sure every fan base does, we have a tendency to overanalyze our own team and take the 10,000 ft view of all other teams.  I think the Bills match up very well with what they do.  The Bills let you get the underneath stuff and tackle very well (with the exception of Taron Johnson - that guy is terrible but that's a completely different topic).  As you could see yesterday, Baltimore gave them tons of underneath stuff but didn't let the receivers get many YAC.  If they had their full team, I think Baltimore wins that game.  Couple that with the idea that their defense does not match up well with our offense, especially now that Dupree is done for the year, and I do expect the Bills to win that game

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5 hours ago, y2zipper said:

 

In between the two games you mentioned, Pittsburgh beat Cincinnati by 16 in Jacksonville by 24, then had their schedule thrown off by covid. The picture of what Pittsburgh is is the fact that they've won 11 in a row and how hard that actually is to do. Where Buffalo catches a break is being the team that plays them the third and they are three games in 11-day stretch here. 

 

what makes Pittsburgh very good and what makes them a team that shouldn't be ranked below too with Drew Brees out is the fact that they have won 11 in a row. In the 16 game season ERA, only 10 teams have started 11 and 0. Seven of them went to the Super Bowl.

Daniel Jones, Jeff driscal(one score game), Carson wentz, garret gilbert(need 4th quarter comeback), Burrow(rookie), Jake Lutton(rookie), Robert griffin/mcsorley.... 

 

those are the qb’s the Steelers have played in 7 of their 11 wins. They came into the week with statistically the weakest schedule in the NFL. Is it hard to see why somebody could be skeptical? With ANY OTHER schedule than the easiest in the league, that team wouldn’t be unbeaten. 
 

steelers are very good. But their record deceives 

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6 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

I have only broke a table once - fell down when on ladder and landed on one.  

My wife scolded me after she determined I was okay.

It probably happened because you are a bills fan. It’s like you were destined for it to happen. 🤣

 

in all seriousness, I’m glad that you’re OK.

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6 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

KC, New Orleans, and Pitt would seem to be the obvious top 3.

 

Whoever is at 4?  Really its a matter of personal choice or the flavor-of-the-week.  After the top 3, there probably are 6-7 teams that could be ranked anywhere from 4-10 and it wouldn't be unfair.

 

Buffalo, Tampa, Seattle, Green Bay, Tenn, maybe even still Balt and the Rams...all are in that 2nd tier.

 

Once you get past them, I think you go Indy, Cleveland, Miami, and Arizona...the Raiders barely hanging on to this group, then everyone else.

 

I'd have Tampa group 3 but largely I agree with this.

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7 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

KC, New Orleans, and Pitt would seem to be the obvious top 3.

 

Whoever is at 4?  Really its a matter of personal choice or the flavor-of-the-week.  After the top 3, there probably are 6-7 teams that could be ranked anywhere from 4-10 and it wouldn't be unfair.

 

Buffalo, Tampa, Seattle, Green Bay, Tenn, maybe even still Balt and the Rams...all are in that 2nd tier.

 

Once you get past them, I think you go Indy, Cleveland, Miami, and Arizona...the Raiders barely hanging on to this group, then everyone else.

You definitely have a point- I think FB and TN are better since one beat us but the argument could go in circles for all of them.

 

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As usual ... the WaPo and its "Ho Hum" ?  attitude towards the Bills

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/12/03/nfl-power-rankings-week-thirteen/

 

6. Seattle Seahawks (8-3) | Last week’s rank: 8

The defense is playing a bit better, although just about anyone can shut down Carson Wentz and the Eagles these days. The pass rush has improved greatly since Carlos Dunlap’s arrival. If that can be sustained and the running game can be reasonably productive to help Russell Wilson and those receivers, the Seahawks’ Super Bowl chances are as good as anyone’s in the NFC.

 

7. Buffalo Bills (8-3) | Last week’s rank: 9

The Bills returned from their bye week and rebounded from the pre-bye loss to the Cardinals with Sunday’s triumph over the Chargers. Few are paying much attention to the Bills. The Steelers and Chiefs clearly are the AFC’s leading powerhouses. But the Bills will be a tough out in the playoffs, no matter the opponent.

 

More snide 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/12/01/power-rankings-week-13-chiefs-steelers-packers

7. Buffalo Bills (8–3)   Last week: Win vs. Los Angeles Chargers 27–17

The Bills’ season has been a wild rollercoaster, but it has also been a clear step forward. They may not be in the AFC’s top tier, but they are really talented and know how to keep things exciting. But they have a ceiling in the power rankings and for now it’s right around here.

 

 

People here say Tenny should be above Buffalo because of the H2H win.

In many of these rankings --- Seattle rated one or 2 spots higher than Buffalo? 

 

Here -   https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/powerrankings/

Seattle is above the Bills :thumbdown: when -- Buffalo vs SEA Sun, Nov 8 The Bills get a 44-34.  10 Points.  a W by a 2 score margin. 

Yet Tenny is one spot beneath the Bills :thumbsup:

 

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