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Now, I don't give a pile of dog poop if you want to call me names, impugn my motives, reply with memes or youtube videos or whatever, but I draw the line at smearing me by quoting me and then changing that post to fit whatever agenda you have.   Not being a snowflake, I can take care of myself in ideological tussles, but I will not have my words altered so that somebody seeing that altered post in the future might think that I actually said something I didn't.  I've had two posters do that to my quotes in the last week, both excusing themselves with "FIFY".   Well, dudes and dudettes, you best not try to "fix it" for me.  My words be mine, and don't mess with them.

 

I don't care if you're supporting me or dissing me.  Changing quoted statements is against the TOS and I will PM you a warning about it once when I see that you've done that, friend or foe.  Do it again, and I will report you for it.   If other posters want to accept others changing their quotes, that's their choice.  I'm not policing PPP,  just my own posts.   I don't care if you rip what I have to say to shreds, but don't quote me and then change the wording of those quotes to pretend I said something I didn't.

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

^ Douche plus idiot

  FIFY.

48 minutes ago, SoTier said:

Now, I don't give a pile of dog poop if you want to call me names, impugn my motives, reply with memes or youtube videos or whatever, but I draw the line at smearing me by quoting me and then changing that post to fit whatever agenda you have.   Not being a snowflake, I can take care of myself in ideological tussles, but I will not have my words altered so that somebody seeing that altered post in the future might think that I actually said something I didn't.  I've had two posters do that to my quotes in the last week, both excusing themselves with "FIFY".   Well, dudes and dudettes, you best not try to "fix it" for me.  My words be mine, and don't mess with them.

 

I don't care if you're supporting me or dissing me.  Changing quoted statements is against the TOS and I will PM you a warning about it once when I see that you've done that, friend or foe.  Do it again, and I will report you for it.   If other posters want to accept others changing their quotes, that's their choice.  I'm not policing PPP,  just my own posts.   I don't care if you rip what I have to say to shreds, but don't quote me and then change the wording of those quotes to pretend I said something I didn't.

 

 

 

 

 

  All your original statements exist for all to see.  If people could not see those then there would be concerns in terms of COC.

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25 minutes ago, westside2 said:

What a crybaby. Is the snowflake triggered?

It happens in every corner of this place.  Main board, OTW, PPP, everywhere.  It has probably happened to 90% of the people on all of those boards.  It happens in a joking manner, as a way of making a counter argument, albeit often lame, and lots of other ways.  A lot of people do it from all political persuasions and football opinions.  I've probably done it, but not a lot as I find it pretty goofy so on that I agree with the OP.  I'm not sensitive enough about my opinions to be afraid of any particular type of counter argument.  The OP is apparently hypersensitive.  

 

The premise that anyone would read a post that says FIFY and assume the quote above hadn't been altered defies logic.  

 

If there is an issue or complaint to be had it would be with the software that allows quotes to be altered.  It is board wide.  To take that personally and threaten people with complaints to moderators is silly and sad.  How fragile does one have to be?

 

I'm telling mommy.  Nanny nanny woo woo.

 

For the record I haven't received my PM warning yet.  I wonder if he went straight to the mods breaking his own iron clad rule.

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2 hours ago, SoTier said:

Now, I don't give a pile of dog poop if you want to call me names, impugn my motives, reply with memes or youtube videos or whatever, but I draw the line at smearing me by quoting me and then changing that post to fit whatever agenda you have.   Not being a snowflake, I can take care of myself in ideological tussles, but I will not have my words altered so that somebody seeing that altered post in the future might think that I actually said something I didn't.  I've had two posters do that to my quotes in the last week, both excusing themselves with "FIFY".   Well, dudes and dudettes, you best not try to "fix it" for me.  My words be mine, and don't mess with them.

 

I don't care if you're supporting me or dissing me.  Changing quoted statements is against the TOS and I will PM you a warning about it once when I see that you've done that, friend or foe.  Do it again, and I will report you for it.   If other posters want to accept others changing their quotes, that's their choice.  I'm not policing PPP,  just my own posts.   I don't care if you rip what I have to say to shreds, but don't quote me and then change the wording of those quotes to pretend I said something I didn't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No one likes me I'm going to eat worms

hahahahaha

 

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51 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE "FIFY" thing OMG ITS SO CLEVER!!!! Does anyone have any great recommendations for a delicious Rose wine? Not too dry, I like a little sweetness.

Furthermore, my latest recipe for GLAZED CRANBERRY ORANGE SCONES! OMG HERE YOU GO GUYS! They're delish!

Ingredients

  • 2 cups (250g) all-purpose flour (spoon & leveled), plus more for hands and work surface
  • 1/2 cup (100ggranulated sugar
  • 2 and 1/2 teaspoons baking powder
  • 1/2 teaspoon salt
  • 2 teaspoons orange zest (about 1 orange)
  • 1/2 cup (115g) unsalted butter, frozen
  • 1/2 cup (120ml) heavy cream
  • 1 large egg
  • 1 teaspoon pure vanilla extract
  • 1 heaping cup (125g) frozen cranberries*
  • optional: 1 Tablespoon (15ml) heavy cream and coarse sugar

Orange Glaze

  • 1 cup (120g) confectioners’ sugar
  • 23 Tablespoons (30-45ml) fresh orange juice*

Instructions

  1. Whisk flour, sugar, baking powder, salt, and orange zest together in a large bowl. Grate the frozen butter using a box grater. Add it to the flour mixture and combine with a pastry cutter, two forks, or your fingers until the mixture comes together in pea-sized crumbs. See video above for a closer look at the texture. Place in the refrigerator or freezer as you mix the wet ingredients together.
  2. Whisk 1/2 cup heavy cream, the egg, and vanilla extract together in a small bowl. Drizzle over the flour mixture, add the cranberries, then mix together until everything appears moistened.
  3. Pour onto the counter and, with floured hands, work dough into a ball as best you can. Dough will be sticky. If it’s too sticky, add a little more flour. If it seems too dry, add 1-2 more Tablespoons heavy cream. Press into an 8-inch disc and, with a sharp knife or bench scraper, cut into 8 wedges.
  4. Brush scones with remaining heavy cream and for extra crunch, sprinkle with coarse sugar. (You can do this before or after refrigerating in the next step.)
  5. Place scones on a plate or lined baking sheet (if your fridge has space!) and refrigerate for at least 15 minutes.
  6. Meanwhile, preheat oven to 400°F (204°C).
  7. Line a large baking sheet with parchment paper or silicone baking mat. After refrigerating, arrange scones 2-3 inches apart on the prepared baking sheet(s).
  8. Bake for 22-25 minutes or until golden brown around the edges and lightly browned on top. Remove from the oven and allow to cool for a few minutes as you make the glaze.
  9. Make the glaze: Whisk the confectioners’ sugar and orange juice together. Add a little more confectioners’ sugar to thicken or more juice to thin. Drizzle over scones.
  10. Leftover iced or un-glazed scones keep well at room temperature for 2 days or in the refrigerator for 5 days.

Notes

  1. Special Tools: Glass Mixing Bowls, Box Grater, Pastry Cutter, Baking Sheet, Silpat Baking Mat, Pastry Brush
  2. Freeze Before Baking: Freeze scone dough wedges on a plate or baking sheet for 1 hour. Once relatively frozen, you can layer them in a freezer-friendly bag or container. Bake from frozen, adding a few minutes to the bake time. Or thaw overnight, then bake as directed.
  3. Freeze After Baking: Freeze the baked and cooled scones before topping with icing. I usually freeze in a freezer-friendly bag or container. To thaw, leave out on the counter for a few hours or overnight in the refrigerator. Warm in the microwave for 30 seconds or on a baking sheet in a 300°F (149°C) oven for 10 minutes.
  4. Overnight Instructions: Prepare scones through step 4. Cover and refrigerate overnight. Continue with the recipe the following day.
  5. Over-spreading: Start with very cold scone dough. Expect some spread, but if the scones are over-spreading as they bake, remove from the oven and press back into its triangle shape (or whatever shape) using a rubber spatula.
  6. Cranberries: I prefer to use frozen cranberries because they keep the scone dough super cold. Fresh or even dried works too. Same amount.
  7. Orange Juice: I prefer fresh orange juice. You’ll have an orange anyway– the one you zested for the scone dough! Store-bought OJ works too, of course.

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59 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

That whole "FIFY" thing is just plain tired. It was actually kind of amusing when it first emerged ... years ago. Now? A big eye-roll, whichever side of an argument is doing it.

I agree that FIFY is lame, dumb and overused.  How whiny would someone have to be to not only cry about it but to start a thread crying about it and threaten to turn people in to the mods?  It's so fragile it makes Marquise Goodwin's tenure with the Bills look like Cal Ripken's tenure with the Orioles.  

 

SoTear should dry his eyes, roll his eyes and move on.

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1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said:

I agree that FIFY is lame, dumb and overused.  How whiny would someone have to be to not only cry about it but to start a thread crying about it and threaten to turn people in to the mods?  It's so fragile it makes Marquise Goodwin's tenure with the Bills look like Cal Ripken's tenure with the Orioles.  

 

SoTear should dry his eyes, put on their big person pants,  roll his eyes and move on.

 

FIFY

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8 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

That whole "FIFY" thing is just plain tired. It was actually kind of amusing when it first emerged ... years ago. Now? A big eye-roll, whichever side of an argument is doing it.

It only really works as a joke and even then it needs to line up well. Just reversing what someone said is just childish and stupid.

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1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

It only really works as a joke and even then it needs to line up well. Just reversing what someone said is just childish and stupid.

Agreed.  More childish yet is reporting someone who does it to moderators.  Mommy!  Billy called me a poopy head.

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26 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I mean it is against the TOS and if he asks you not to just don't.

  Why do I have a feeling that your take would be different if the liberals here were winning that battle.  You say it is against the TOS and yet from time to time it is rampant over on TSW.  Do those posters get called out on that?  If ST could offer more than rants about "Covid Donnie" maybe he would receive less grief.  

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48 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I mean it is against the TOS and if he asks you not to just don't.

TOS lol.  If that particular part of the TOS were enforced most people would be gone from all of these boards.  But by all means SoTear and the boys can whine for selective enforcement.

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23 hours ago, SoTier said:

Now, I don't give a pile of dog poop if you want to call me names, impugn my motives, reply with memes or youtube videos or whatever, but I draw the line at smearing me by quoting me and then changing that post to fit whatever agenda you have.   Not being a snowflake, I can take care of myself in ideological tussles, but I will not have my words altered so that somebody seeing that altered post in the future might think that I actually said something I didn't.  I've had two posters do that to my quotes in the last week, both excusing themselves with "FIFY".   Well, dudes and dudettes, you best not try to "fix it" for me.  My words be mine, and don't mess with them.

 

I don't care if you're supporting me or dissing me.  Changing quoted statements is against the TOS and I will PM you a warning about it once when I see that you've done that, friend or foe.  Do it again, and I will report you for it.   If other posters want to accept others changing their quotes, that's their choice.  I'm not policing PPP,  just my own posts.   I don't care if you rip what I have to say to shreds, but don't quote me and then change the wording of those quotes to pretend I said something I didn't.

 

 

 

 

 

I was going to request more specifics in a PM but since you've made this general, I thought this might be a better place.  

 

Can you link to or quote the portion of the TOS that addresses "FIFY" type posts?  

 

My two cents on this currently is that it seems very hypersensitive, almost pathetic.  Scratch the almost. This board just went through a long thread about how some things were handled.  A large part of the thread was a discussion of the crap the board owner has to deal with.  Fast forward to this thread and you're warning everyone not to subject you to lame jokes that literally hundreds of posters have encountered for years.  Unlike you, they knew how to deal with.  Further, your claims of potential harm caused by this childish yet common type of post are incredibly easy to refute as well as simply remedied.  I think it is an intersting choice on your part to create a thread based in hypersensitivity and propose a remedy which is sensitive in no way whatsoever to the site owner who has clearly explained what a pain in the neck complaints like those threatened cause.  

 

On a secondary note I'm curious as to why you're so upset about people altering your words but not the words of others.  I wouldn't expect you to go searching for incidents, but if you happen across a misquote of someone else, why not issue warnings and complaints about those too?  

 

I'm looking forward to the specific wording in the TOS that we need to avoid.  Thanks in advance.

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1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

I was going to request more specifics in a PM but since you've made this general, I thought this might be a better place.  

 

Can you link to or quote the portion of the TOS that addresses "FIFY" type posts?  

 

My two cents on this currently is that it seems very hypersensitive, almost pathetic.  Scratch the almost. This board just went through a long thread about how some things were handled.  A large part of the thread was a discussion of the crap the board owner has to deal with.  Fast forward to this thread and you're warning everyone not to subject you to lame jokes that literally hundreds of posters have encountered for years.  Unlike you, they knew how to deal with.  Further, your claims of potential harm caused by this childish yet common type of post are incredibly easy to refute as well as simply remedied.  I think it is an intersting choice on your part to create a thread based in hypersensitivity and propose a remedy which is sensitive in no way whatsoever to the site owner who has clearly explained what a pain in the neck complaints like those threatened cause.  

 

On a secondary note I'm curious as to why you're so upset about people altering your words but not the words of others.  I wouldn't expect you to go searching for incidents, but if you happen across a misquote of someone else, why not issue warnings and complaints about those too?  

 

I'm looking forward to the specific wording in the TOS that we need to avoid.  Thanks in advance.

  He does not know how to fight these battles so he runs to daddy to defend him.

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6 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

How many times did you threaten to run to a mod yesterday? 

 

3, 4, 5?

  You're quite dumb.  So Tier is blatting about something that really is not a violation.  All his posts can be seen unaltered.  A call out thread such as what you posted is a violation.  Be nice to me as I do not have to be here. If the money was in place right now I would be throwing up a nice little out building on the property.  55-60 degrees temps with mostly sunny skies is prime weather to be outside and I enjoy it.  

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2 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

   

  You're quite dumb.  So Tier is blatting about something that really is not a violation.  All his posts can be seen unaltered.  A call out thread such as what you posted is a violation.  Be nice to me as I do not have to be here. If the money was in place right now I would be throwing up a nice little out building on the property.  55-60 degrees temps with mostly sunny skies is prime weather to be outside and I enjoy it.  

 

Can't handle 45 degrees and you're from WNY?

 

wahhh

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1 minute ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

Can't handle 45 degrees and you're from WNY?

 

wahhh

  I can handle 10 degrees F.  I am just stating my preference for performing work.  If you feel that you work best at 45 degrees then so be it.  We are all different in that respect.  My father loved to work when the thermometer hit 80.  If I normally crap at 8 in the morning and you crap at 2 in the afternoon then so be it.

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On October 27, 2020 at 8:39 AM, SoTier said:

Now, I don't give a pile of dog poop if you want to call me names, impugn my motives, reply with memes or youtube videos or whatever, but I draw the line at smearing me by quoting me and then changing that post to fit whatever agenda you have.   Not being a snowflake, I can take care of myself in ideological tussles, but I will not have my words altered so that somebody seeing that altered post in the future might think that I actually said something I didn't.  I've had two posters do that to my quotes in the last week, both excusing themselves with "FIFY".   Well, dudes and dudettes, you best not try to "fix it" for me.  My words be mine, and don't mess with them.

 

I don't care if you're supporting me or dissing me.  Changing quoted statements is against the TOS and I will PM you a warning about it once when I see that you've done that, friend or foe.  Do it again, and I will report you for it.   If other posters want to accept others changing their quotes, that's their choice.  I'm not policing PPP,  just my own posts.   I don't care if you rip what I have to say to shreds, but don't quote me and then change the wording of those quotes to pretend I said something I didn't.

 

 

 

 

 

Any updates on this?

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On October 28, 2020 at 8:24 AM, 4merper4mer said:

I was going to request more specifics in a PM but since you've made this general, I thought this might be a better place.  

 

Can you link to or quote the portion of the TOS that addresses "FIFY" type posts?  

 

My two cents on this currently is that it seems very hypersensitive, almost pathetic.  Scratch the almost. This board just went through a long thread about how some things were handled.  A large part of the thread was a discussion of the crap the board owner has to deal with.  Fast forward to this thread and you're warning everyone not to subject you to lame jokes that literally hundreds of posters have encountered for years.  Unlike you, they knew how to deal with.  Further, your claims of potential harm caused by this childish yet common type of post are incredibly easy to refute as well as simply remedied.  I think it is an intersting choice on your part to create a thread based in hypersensitivity and propose a remedy which is sensitive in no way whatsoever to the site owner who has clearly explained what a pain in the neck complaints like those threatened cause.  

 

On a secondary note I'm curious as to why you're so upset about people altering your words but not the words of others.  I wouldn't expect you to go searching for incidents, but if you happen across a misquote of someone else, why not issue warnings and complaints about those too?  

 

I'm looking forward to the specific wording in the TOS that we need to avoid.  Thanks in advance.

Still no link or quote about the TOS provision FIFY violates?  

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22 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Update:. Due to SoTear either not seeing or ignoring my request for the TOS provision about FIFY posts, I've sent him a PM requesting it.  My own review of the TOS did not uncover anything about this topic.  Stay tuned.

Update:. SoTear has posted 10 times since the above appeared.  Pronoun has not responded in this thread or in PM to my TOS inquiry.

 

I know prounoun's words be pronoun's but pronoun hasn't answered so I thought I'd throw this open.  Can anyone show where the TOS deems an FIFY type post a violation?  Thanks in advance.

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Update:. Our TOS be ours.  We can take criticism and name calling, but threatening to go to mods about rules that don't exist is going too far. 

 

Anyone who misrepresents the TOS in a way that results in other posters potentially feeling threatened into modifying their posting style will receive a PM warning from me.  Another violation will result in a report to the mods.

 

Actually I probably won't report it to mods because I'm not a whiny snowflake.

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