Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Last year, everyone was complaining because Daboll was too conservative and not throwing enough. The last three games everyone is complaining because Daboll is throwing too much. The problem (as it usually is) is not with coaching. It's with our players not performing. Coming into the season, the story on Josh Allen was that he couldn't hit the deep ball. So over the first 3-4 games, defenses dared him to beat them over the top. And Allen responded by putting up MVP-like numbers with the deep ball. At the same time, the Bills were struggling to establish any kind of running game. What we have seen recently, is opposing defenses adjusting to our success throwing the ball deep. Similar to what WE did against the Chiefs, they are leaving open the check-downs and daring us to run the ball consistently. Against the Titans and Chiefs, Allen was not patient enough to take the check-downs. Instead, he tried forcing the ball down the field into coverage. Thankfully, Allen did a better job of this today. But we STILL haven't really established a running game. And it's one of the main reasons we also struggled in the Red Zone. Simply put. Our run blocking has been atrocious this year. This is not on Daboll. This is mostly on our interior line/guards, who are not getting any kind of push. Hopefully this changes when we get back Jon Feliciano. I have supported Dabol for three years, hes just Chan Galley junior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Thats nice, still doesnt make up for not being able to run. The inability to run is because they have a finesse center and two useless guards. The way you normally mitigate that is run outside, however we have two backs too slow and non-explosive who can't get to the edge and turn the corner. Not sure any amount of scheming in the world overcomes that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Cmon dude, a Allen shouldn't be our primary option, singletary and moss had a couple of runs, that doesnt constitute a solid running game. They had 15 for 76 yards today. They didn't run a ton but they started to use it more effectively in this game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: So I didn't love all the playcalling today. The McKenzie pop pass that was snuffed out was a bad call.... but I struggle to blame him for Davis not lining up correctly and Tyler Kroft tripping over Daniel Jones's laces. You're missing the point, we are one dimensional and that has been figured out. We are going to have a tough time beating solid teams unless we make seriously philosophical changes on offense and defense. Just now, Warcodered said: They had 15 for 76 yards today. They didn't run a ton but they started to use it more effectively in this game. No they didn't, they ran Allen more because we cant run block for running backs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I have supported Dabol for three years, hes just Chan Galley junior. It'd be awful if the Bills had a clone of a very highly regarded long-time NFL OCoordinator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: You're missing the point, we are one dimensional and that has been figured out. We are going to have a tough time beating solid teams unless we make seriously philosophical changes on offense and defense. You can't make philosophical changes without considering what you have the talent to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: No they didn't, they ran Allen more because we cant run block for running backs. We should definitely fire Dabol then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 BB.....Cut your losses dude. Nicest way I can put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: You're missing the point, we are one dimensional and that has been figured out. We are going to have a tough time beating solid teams unless we make seriously philosophical changes on offense and defense. Lack of the run game is going to expose us anytime Allen doesnt play 100% mistake free and also makes it too easy for the defense. Has a back broke 60 yards this season in a game? Also this is going to expose Allen to a injury when he becomes the #1 rushing option in short yardage situations If he's the franchise guy its imperative they figure out how to convert third and short and goal to go running the ball with the backs and not Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, Warcodered said: The run game actually had a little bit of life today. It had a pulse. We can work with this. I think Feliciano will make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: You friggin stats guys are ridiculous. Did you see us scoring touchdowns, how about running the ball?? No, i didnt think so. The jets are trash and we should have rolled them up but we barely made it out of there. Stop now please. You overestimate this roster. But they problem solved at halftime, switched to the run and added pitch and pass and started bringing 5 and 6 on D and crunched them in the 2nd half. No NFL team is trash. Anyone can beat anyone every week. W/L records tell only a piece of the story. Bills should have lost to the Rams, everyone with a brain knows that. If not for Josh Normans strip, they could have very easily lost the Raiders game. What about the Phins game, who was trash in that game prior to Davis' miracle catch? Jets got a bunch of talented guys back for this game and they made a difference. Don't underestimate any opponent from week to week. Every week stands on its own and records don't mean much any given week. As BB says, you are what your record says you are. Bills are 5-2. Works for me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, jkeerie said: It had a pulse. We can work with this. I think Feliciano will make a difference. So do I. He is our best interior run blocker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Where's @JoeinWinslow and his followers who only believe all the matters is your record. 🙄. They have regressed since the the 4-0 start. Today was a the game to fix many problems against the worst team in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 The Jets, despite what they show on TV, consist of professional athletes. We put up like 410 yards on them. A TD reversed by a penalty that CBS never showed and then its 22-10 final score. We won, and it’s hard to win in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Wow It's getting 🔥 in here Monday morning. Offensive c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Stop now please. You overestimate this roster. But they problem solved at halftime, switched to the run and added pitch and pass and started bringing 5 and 6 on D and crunched them in the 2nd half. No NFL team is trash. Anyone can beat anyone every week. W/L records tell only a piece of the story. Bills should have lost to the Rams, everyone with a brain knows that. If not for Josh Normans strip, they could have very easily lost the Raiders game. What about the Phins game, who was trash in that game prior to Davis' miracle catch? Jets got a bunch of talented guys back for this game and they made a difference. Don't underestimate any opponent from week to week. Every week stands on its own and records don't mean much any given week. As BB says, you are what your record says you are. Bills are 5-2. Works for me. Can we stop with the whole "Jauron its hard to win in this league nonsense". I'm watching other games around the league today and the good teams have no issue with the worse teams. Bills fans seem to always accept mediocrity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: You can't make philosophical changes without considering what you have the talent to run. They could be multiple like they preached for 3 years. How about lining up in run formations and run the ball and then pass out of them too. Daboll just wants run out of 3 and four wide and its not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, High Football IQ said: Also somebody needs to tell him the jet sweep stuff just isn't going to work and every time midget mckenzie is out there now teams know what's coming which is why we took a huge loss today on one of them that derailed a drive shades of last year. It's also why Moss and Allen both had some massive lanes today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: BB.....Cut your losses dude. Nicest way I can put it. for what?? Im right about this situation and its simple as that, unless changes are made we are going no where. You think this was a quality win against and even worse team?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: Lack of the run game is going to expose us anytime Allen doesnt play 100% mistake free and also makes it too easy for the defense. Has a back broke 60 yards this season in a game? Also this is going to expose Allen to a injury when he becomes the #1 rushing option in short yardage situations If he's the franchise guy its imperative they figure out how to convert third and short and goal to go running the ball with the backs and not Josh I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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