KD in CA Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kemp said: I had to look up what pear porn is. Didn't help me understand what you wrote. Excuse my typo. Fear porn: what the left has been reveling in more and more the closer we get to the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Excuse my typo. Fear porn: what the left has been reveling in more and more the closer we get to the election. I readily admit that I fear what Trump is doing. Tough to unsee pear porn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, Kemp said: I readily admit that I fear what Trump is doing. Irrationally so, in my opinion. But I remember how fearful you were for the future of our democracy when the left desperately tried rig the last election by getting the EC to overrule the results of the voting. Oh wait....no I don't. 1 minute ago, Kemp said: Tough to unsee pear porn. All depends how sweet and juicy the pears are..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, KD in CA said: But I remember how fearful you were for the future of our democracy when the left desperately tried rig the last election by getting the EC to overrule the results of the voting. Oh wait....no I don't. We obviously have differing viewpoints as to what happened in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kemp said: We obviously have differing viewpoints as to what happened in 2016. Unless you are unable to cope with reality, there really aren't viewpoints, just facts: 1) Trump won. 2) Left wingers and their media attempted to influence the official certification of the election. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Unless you are unable to cope with reality, there really aren't viewpoints, just facts: 1) Trump won. 2) Left wingers and their media attempted to influence the official certification of the election. 1) True 2) What are you referring to, specifically? Do you think it's a coincidence that so many Trump associates have been involved with Russia? That's indisputable, by the way. Why do you believe Trump refused to answer questions in the investigation? Why do you believe that despite being subpoenaed, some refused to testify? Why do you believe Trump didn't allow a translator when he spoke to Putin? Why do you believe Trump won't reveal his taxes? Why do you believe we can't see Trump's medical records? Do you like that he belittles the handicapped? Does it bother you that no politician in American history has told more lies than he has? Does it bother you that he has stated that he will not accept a loss in the election? Isn't that what dictators do? If he does so and holds onto power, will you support him as your dictator? You know he has pulled numerous cons on banks and investors, and employees. You know he's a con man based on his stealing from a charity and his phony university, so why is it you have no intellectual curiosity in regards to his trying to suppress other parts of his life.? You know he's a criminal, yet you are not bothered by that. Why? Because of abortion, which you know he doesn't care about? What would it take for you to wonder what Trump is up to? Is it all about the ends justifies the means? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chef Jim Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 9:09 AM, Kemp said: I readily admit that I fear what Trump is doing. Tough to unsee pear porn. What had Trump done that had direct negative affects on your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: What had Trump done that had direct negative affects on your life. He's totally and completely mismanaged the coronavirus pandemic since the very beginning, which as a 70-year-old with some comorbidity conditions, directly and significantly negatively affects my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, SoTier said: He's totally and completely mismanaged the coronavirus pandemic since the very beginning, which as a 70-year-old with some comorbidity conditions, directly and significantly negatively affects my life. How? What did he do, or not do, that directly impacted you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commsvet11 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 hours ago, SoTier said: He's totally and completely mismanaged the coronavirus pandemic since the very beginning, which as a 70-year-old with some comorbidity conditions, directly and significantly negatively affects my life. Maybe you should be thankful you weren’t in a nursing home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 13 hours ago, SoTier said: He's totally and completely mismanaged the coronavirus pandemic since the very beginning, which as a 70-year-old with some comorbidity conditions, directly and significantly negatively affects my life. Right, because you say so. I guess that settles it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 North Korea apparently has had zero infections. So... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 6:58 AM, Kemp said: 1) True 2) What are you referring to, specifically? Do you think it's a coincidence that so many Trump associates have been involved with Russia? That's indisputable, by the way. Why do you believe Trump refused to answer questions in the investigation? Why do you believe that despite being subpoenaed, some refused to testify? Why do you believe Trump didn't allow a translator when he spoke to Putin? Why do you believe Trump won't reveal his taxes? Why do you believe we can't see Trump's medical records? Do you like that he belittles the handicapped? Does it bother you that no politician in American history has told more lies than he has? Does it bother you that he has stated that he will not accept a loss in the election? Isn't that what dictators do? If he does so and holds onto power, will you support him as your dictator? You know he has pulled numerous cons on banks and investors, and employees. You know he's a con man based on his stealing from a charity and his phony university, so why is it you have no intellectual curiosity in regards to his trying to suppress other parts of his life.? You know he's a criminal, yet you are not bothered by that. Why? Because of abortion, which you know he doesn't care about? What would it take for you to wonder what Trump is up to? Is it all about the ends justifies the means? I'm surprised that no one responded to this very reasonable post full of excellent questions given that PPP has always been advertised as a place of welcome discussion of dissenting opinions 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 This isn’t a thing. He’s a weak coward lacking the balls to back up his rhetoric. He has zero support. The Secret Service will escort him off the property on 1/21 at 12:00 noon if he whines. Buh bye. It’s ovah. The bigger issue is dealing with the overt racism and hatred he has allowed to blossom. You can’t kill an idea and many people see Trumpism as their White Right. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 12:58 PM, Kemp said: 1) True 2) What are you referring to, specifically? Do you think it's a coincidence that so many Trump associates have been involved with Russia? That's indisputable, by the way. and none charged with any crime related to the election. Not one. Why do you believe Trump refused to answer questions in the investigation? Why should he? He has executive privilege and the Leftists would use anything he said against him no matter what it was. Why do you believe that despite being subpoenaed, some refused to testify?like who specifically? Why do you believe Trump didn't allow a translator when he spoke to Putin? who cares? Are you still on with the Trump Putin thing? Trump has wrecked Russia. Actions speak louder than words. Why do you believe Trump won't reveal his taxes?you saw them. No crimes. And who cares. IRS sees them every year. Why do you believe we can't see Trump's medical records?what do you think you will find? Do you like that he belittles the handicapped? Daily? Or do you use the one video where he was mocking someone who happened to have a disability. Does it bother you that no politician in American history has told more lies than he has?small hyperbolic lies mostly. And so no. Does it bother you that he has stated that he will not accept a loss in the election? Isn't that what dictators do?untrue. But your side specifically said they would never concede. That cool with you? If he does so and holds onto power, will you support him as your dictator?So silly. But if he loses I hope he does Biden like Obama did him. You know he has pulled numerous cons on banks and investors, and employees. You know he's a con man based on his stealing from a charity and his phony university, so why is it you have no intellectual curiosity in regards to his trying to suppress other parts of his life.?you must think you could write a biography on Trump. You can’t. You know he's a criminal, yet you are not bothered by that. Why? Because of abortion, which you know he doesn't care about?list the crimes he has committed. I’ll wait. What would it take for you to wonder what Trump is up to? Is it all about the ends justifies the means? is that a rhetorical question or just a stupid one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 17 hours ago, Chef Jim said: What had Trump done that had direct negative affects on your life. He raised my taxes. His inability and lack of desire to address the virus helped kill a friend of mine. He is currently involved in dismantling the democracy in my country. Under him, violence is soaring. Stop me when you've heard enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Bakin said: 1) True 2) What are you referring to, specifically? Do you think it's a coincidence that so many Trump associates have been involved with Russia? That's indisputable, by the way. and none charged with any crime related to the election. Not one. Why do you believe Trump refused to answer questions in the investigation? Why should he? He has executive privilege and the Leftists would use anything he said against him no matter what it was. Why do you believe that despite being subpoenaed, some refused to testify?like who specifically? Why do you believe Trump didn't allow a translator when he spoke to Putin? who cares? Are you still on with the Trump Putin thing? Trump has wrecked Russia. Actions speak louder than words. Why do you believe Trump won't reveal his taxes?you saw them. No crimes. And who cares. IRS sees them every year. Why do you believe we can't see Trump's medical records?what do you think you will find? Do you like that he belittles the handicapped? Daily? Or do you use the one video where he was mocking someone who happened to have a disability. Does it bother you that no politician in American history has told more lies than he has?small hyperbolic lies mostly. And so no. Does it bother you that he has stated that he will not accept a loss in the election? Isn't that what dictators do?untrue. But your side specifically said they would never concede. That cool with you? If he does so and holds onto power, will you support him as your dictator?So silly. But if he loses I hope he does Biden like Obama did him. You know he has pulled numerous cons on banks and investors, and employees. You know he's a con man based on his stealing from a charity and his phony university, so why is it you have no intellectual curiosity in regards to his trying to suppress other parts of his life.?you must think you could write a biography on Trump. You can’t. You know he's a criminal, yet you are not bothered by that. Why? Because of abortion, which you know he doesn't care about?list the crimes he has committed. I’ll wait. What would it take for you to wonder what Trump is up to? Is it all about the ends justifies the means? is that a rhetorical question or just a stupid one? You didn't answer my 1st question. You ignored my question as to why there are so many connections to Russia among Trump associates. You think it's a series of coincidences? Don't be afraid to answer. Remember when he said he only hires the best people? Roger Stone-Convicted of a crime Paul Manafort-Convicted of a crime. Michael Cohen-Convicted of a crime Michael Flynn-Convicted of a crime. Rick Gates-Convicted of a crime. George Nader-Convicted of a crime George Papadapoulus-Convicted of a crime Most of those above were charged in things involved with Russia. More coincidences? He wouldn't answer questions in an investigation where he did nothing wrong? Innocent people aren't afraid of testifying. Why do you believe that despite being subpoenaed, some refused to testify?like who specifically? Barr, Stone, McGahn, Hicks, etc,. Do you have any idea what you're talking about at all? You don't care that Trump believes the dictaor, Putin, instead of his own employees. You don't care that Trump is hiding something from the American government and people. Is it because you are Russian? You didn't answer why Trump wouldn't reveal his taxes. Why? You didn't answer why Trump won't reveal his medical records.Why? Yes, there's only one video of Trump belittling someone with a handicap. How many videos would it take to bother you? Trump has told only small, hyperbolic lies? Really? Some small lies he's told: In the wake of the Stoneman Douglas High School massacre, in which 17 people were killed, Trump cast his mind back to the 2016 mass shooting in the Pulse nightclub in Orlando. “You take Pulse nightclub,” he said during a televised meeting with members of Congress. “If you had one person in that room that could carry a gun and knew how to use it, it wouldn’t have happened, or certainly to the extent that it did.” In fact, a uniformed and armed off-duty police officer, with 15 years experience with the Orlando Police Department, was working security that night. He exchanged gunfire with the perpetrator. Despite the bravery of Officer Adam Gruler, and the quick response of his colleagues, 49 people were killed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Speaking at a rally just over a week after a series of terrorist attacks in Paris and its surrounds left 131 people dead, Trump told the crowd: “Hey, I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering.” He repeated his comments during an interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week”: “I know it might be not politically correct for you to talk about it, but there were people cheering as that building came down, as those buildings came down. And that tells you something. It was well covered at the time, George. Now, I know they don’t like to talk about it, but it was well covered at the time. There were people over in New Jersey that were watching it, a heavy Arab population, that were cheering as the buildings came down. Not good.” As the Washington Post pointed out at the time, the exchange demonstrates the difficulty of fact-checking Trump. The police said it didn’t happen, yet he insisted he saw it. Despite extensive examinations of news reports, no visual evidence has ever been found to support the claim. Curiously, there are also no examples of Trump expressing this opinion at the time of the attacks or at any stage before the rally. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The President has recognized that an anti-abortion stance plays well with his voting base. Addressing a rally in Green Bay, he told the crowd that with late-term abortion “the mother meets with the doctor. They take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully. And then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby”. Late-term abortions are rare and generally only occur due to a threat to the mother’s life or if the child has fatal abnormalities. Where a baby is born, and dies due to severe abnormalities, parents and doctors make a decision whether to resuscitate or not. This is not the execution of a healthy, or even viable child. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that 1.4 per cent of abortions occur after 21 weeks (out of a standard 40-week pregnancy). According to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, less than one per cent of abortions occur in the third trimester and almost exclusively occur in the most extreme situations. “Allowing to die does happen,” said Arthur Caplan, a bioethicist at New York University Langone Medical Center, but “very rarely — say, a baby born with no lungs at 20 weeks”. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A year into his presidency, Trump told a West Palm Beach crowd: “You know, one of the things that people don’t understand — we have signed more legislation than anybody. We broke the record of Harry Truman.” Not quite. According to govtracks.us, the President actually passed the least amount of legislation in the first year of anyone elected to the office since World War II. Trump signed off on 96 laws in the period, while Truman racked up 126 in his first 100 days alone. John F Kennedy takes the record at the one-year mark with 684 signed bills. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Trump’s vitriol should have been directed at his own administration when he tweeted: “Put pressure on the Democrats to end the horrible law that separates children from there [sic] parents once they cross the Border into the US.” He was still peddling this lie a year later. In an interview on Telemundo in June, he claimed: “When I became president, President Obama had a separation policy. I didn’t have it. He had it. I brought the families together. I’m the one that put them together.” There was no specific law under the Democratic administration of Barack Obama to separate children from their parents. It did occur occasionally when the parents were charged with a crime and placed in custody, due to a policy of not imprisoning children. However, illegal immigrants were rarely prosecuted and instead held in family detention centres under Obama, while under Trump the Homeland Security Department now refers all illegal border crossings for prosecution. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Following his against-the-odds win in the 2016 presidential election, Trump tweeted: “In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.” The Electoral College result was a resounding win, but not a landslide. In fact, the margin of victory ranked just 46th out of 58 presidential elections. Trump had 56.9 per cent of the college. Washington had 100 per cent twice, Ronald Reagan picked up 97.6 per cent, and even fellow impeachment-target Richard Nixon garnered 96.65 per cent of votes. In terms of the popular vote, by the official results the President lost by just under three million to Hillary Clinton, the largest margin of any presidential election ever. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud, certainly not to the extent of explaining such a deficit. Trump even established the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, chaired by Vice President Mike Pence, but it was unable to confirm any irregularities and was disbanded before it could hand down such a finding. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The most significant legislative success of the current administration was the passing of US$1.5 trillion in tax cuts, which among other things lowered company tax rates from 35 per cent to 21 per cent, and reducing the alternative minimum tax, which is designed to guarantee that high-income earners with significant deductions still pay a minimum amount of tax. Trump, the only modern president not to have released his tax returns, told reporters that his plan was for the working people and not people like him. “No, I don’t benefit. I don’t benefit. In fact, very, very strongly, as you see, I think there’s very little benefit for people of wealth.” The President expanded in a speech in St Charles on November 29: “This is going to cost me a fortune, this thing — believe me. Believe me, this is not good for me.” Without access to Trump’s tax returns it is impossible to know exactly how the tax cuts would affect him — maybe he’s about to declare bankruptcy, as he has six times in his business dealings. Writing the day after his original claim, a New York Times analysis found: “President Trump could cut his tax bills by more than $1.1 billion, including saving tens of millions of dollars in a single year.” ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mexico will pay for the wall that still hasn't been built. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- He will have a great health plan for America. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- He will have a huge infrastructure bill, etc,. etc,. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Trump didn't say that the only way Biden can win is if it's crooked? He didn't refuse to say he would abide by a peaceful transition if he lost? Have you ever even visited reality? Noted that you avoided dealing with two questions in regards to Trump being a con artist. Not even Trump supporters can attempt to refute that. Crimes he has committed (You can stop waiting) The Emoluments Clause Stealing from charity Stealing from emplotees Stealing from contractors By refusing to testify and blocking others from testifying, he has postponed the ineviatable, but that dam will break soon enough. Unless he becomes America's official dictator. If he does, you will be one of the ignorant who supports his putting you under his thumb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 12:58 PM, Kemp said: 1) True 2) What are you referring to, specifically? Do you think it's a coincidence that so many Trump associates have been involved with Russia? That's indisputable, by the way. Why do you believe Trump refused to answer questions in the investigation? Why do you believe that despite being subpoenaed, some refused to testify? Why do you believe Trump didn't allow a translator when he spoke to Putin? Why do you believe Trump won't reveal his taxes? Why do you believe we can't see Trump's medical records? Do you like that he belittles the handicapped? Does it bother you that no politician in American history has told more lies than he has? Does it bother you that he has stated that he will not accept a loss in the election? Isn't that what dictators do? If he does so and holds onto power, will you support him as your dictator? You know he has pulled numerous cons on banks and investors, and employees. You know he's a con man based on his stealing from a charity and his phony university, so why is it you have no intellectual curiosity in regards to his trying to suppress other parts of his life.? You know he's a criminal, yet you are not bothered by that. Why? Because of abortion, which you know he doesn't care about? What would it take for you to wonder what Trump is up to? Is it all about the ends justifies the means? Hoax. Why must you lie? You know the truth, you just refuse to believe it. You have a serious case of TDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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