keepthefaith Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, SoTier said: Bull manure. The POTUS is the head of the Executive branch of the US government so he's the ultimate boss of all federal employees except for those who are employees of Congress or the federal court system, almost 90% of all federal employees. US Office of Personnel Management July 12, 2020: Total US coronavirus cases is 3,292,934 with total deaths of 135,140 for a death rate of 4.1%. The real denominator is a much larger number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 9 hours ago, keepthefaith said: The real denominator is a much larger number. Really??? The number of total deaths from Covid-19 divided by the number of total Covid-19 cases, which works out to about 4%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 9:56 AM, 3rdnlng said: Do you have any concept of the extent of presidential power as it pertains to things that are not specifically set out in the constitution? Do you have any concept the depth of excuses Trumplets like you will go to explain away how horrible Trump is? At every level? But the racism ....the sweet sweet racism....WHITE POWER BABY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) July 12, 2020 -- While Florida set a record of 15,299 new Covid-19 cases in a single day and 35 states saw increases in Covid-19 cases, the White House has started a campaign to discredit Dr. Anthony Fauci. Update: Trump just tweeted that the CDC was lying. Edited July 13, 2020 by SoTier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, SoTier said: Really??? The number of total deaths from Covid-19 divided by the number of total Covid-19 cases, which works out to about 4%. If we knew the total number of "cases" we could then calculate a death rate. We don't because we have only tested a fraction of the population and didn't test a lot of people early on who had symptoms. We know the death rate of people under 70 who are reasonably healthy is nil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 15 hours ago, Tiberius said: Florida! Wow, just wow. DeSantis is such a d-bag Bet Florida wishes they had our Governor. I thought you lived in NY? Why would we prefer 32000 over 4300? Our people dying are choosing to go out into crowded Miami and such places yours were killed by an incompetent Governor. We have more elderly than you, more total people than you and at no point in the next 3 years will be even have half your death rate, but please keep telling me how NY is better off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, SoTier said: Really??? The number of total deaths from Covid-19 divided by the number of total Covid-19 cases, which works out to about 4%. You actually believe every single American who had Covid has been confirmed? The majority of people who had illness have not been tested. The CDC is estimating the death rate of those who have been infected is well below 1% and it is dropping due to better treatments 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I thought you lived in NY? Why would we prefer 32000 over 4300? Our people dying are choosing to go out into crowded Miami and such places yours were killed by an incompetent Governor. We have more elderly than you, more total people than you and at no point in the next 3 years will be even have half your death rate, but please keep telling me how NY is better off. The high death toll in NYC and NJ was from the 3 million people who arrived from Europe by air “To keep new cases from entering our shores,” Trump said in an Oval Office address on March 11, “we will be suspending all travel from Europe to the United States for the next 30 days.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/one-final-viral-infusion-trumps-move-to-block-travel-from-europe-triggered-chaos-and-a-surge-of-passengers-from-the-outbreaks-center/2020/05/23/64836a00-962b-11ea-82b4-c8db161ff6e5_story.html By March 11 the damage was done. Early on did not know that the elderly and nursing homes were the most vulnerable. The rest of the country had time to learn from NYC and be better prepared. I'm not making any excuses for Cuomo and de Blasio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: If we knew the total number of "cases" we could then calculate a death rate. We don't because we have only tested a fraction of the population and didn't test a lot of people early on who had symptoms. We know the death rate of people under 70 who are reasonably healthy is nil. "Cases" have always been confirmed cases. It's a hard number, not a combination of confirmed cases plus a reasonable guess at how many infected people there are. That's the Disease Infection Rate I believe. Moreover, define what you mean by "reasonably healthy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 16 hours ago, SoTier said: Bull manure. The POTUS is the head of the Executive branch of the US government so he's the ultimate boss of all federal employees except for those who are employees of Congress or the federal court system, almost 90% of all federal employees. US Office of Personnel Management July 12, 2020: Total US coronavirus cases is 3,292,934 with total deaths of 135,140 for a death rate of 4.1%. Keep moving the goalposts. Now instead of accusing Trump of not leading a country of 330,000,000 you are accusing him of not forcing all "federal employees" to wear masks as if they are equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 4 hours ago, TH3 said: Do you have any concept the depth of excuses Trumplets like you will go to explain away how horrible Trump is? At every level? But the racism ....the sweet sweet racism....WHITE POWER BABY! You'd do better if you just copied and pasted "I got nuthin'" for all of your responses. Do you have any clue how silly you appear when someone quotes the constitution and you call them racist because of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, ALF said: Early on did not know that the elderly and nursing homes were the most vulnerable. Are you ***** kidding me with this bullschit? You're seriously trying to pretend that it was a surprise that the most vulnerable population to disease in general was the most vulnerable to this disease? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Are you ***** kidding me with this bullschit? You're seriously trying to pretend that it was a surprise that the most vulnerable population to disease in general was the most vulnerable to this disease? 1 hour ago, ALF said: Early on did not know that the elderly and nursing homes were the most vulnerable. Spot on Koko - Alf had a first class denial...... A sixth grade science project would predict a requirement to put sick people with elderly people was going to be a failure. Flu is a killer of the old and infirm but this was not going to be? Edited July 13, 2020 by Just Joshin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, ALF said: The high death toll in NYC and NJ was from the 3 million people who arrived from Europe by air “To keep new cases from entering our shores,” Trump said in an Oval Office address on March 11, “we will be suspending all travel from Europe to the United States for the next 30 days.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/one-final-viral-infusion-trumps-move-to-block-travel-from-europe-triggered-chaos-and-a-surge-of-passengers-from-the-outbreaks-center/2020/05/23/64836a00-962b-11ea-82b4-c8db161ff6e5_story.html By March 11 the damage was done. Early on did not know that the elderly and nursing homes were the most vulnerable. The rest of the country had time to learn from NYC and be better prepared. I'm not making any excuses for Cuomo and de Blasio I live in Orlando, which Florida also have Miami, which has a huge number of European tourist all year long, especially in the winter months yet we only had less than 10% of NY deaths. The knowledge of age being a risk was widely known by early March because I did not go see my parents in March despite spring break and my daughter's birthday. Lastly we only learned what not to do from NYC, they screwed the pooch royally and your defense of those two shows how disconnected from facts you are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) July 14, 2020: 3,407,798 cases 136,252 deaths States with positivity rates above 25% (1): Arizona 26.46 States with positivity rates above 15% (7): Mississippi 18.88 Florida 18.73 South Carolina 17.53 Texas 16.94 Alabama 16.54 Georgia 15.77 Idaho 15.33 States with positivity rates above 5%: (25) States with positivity rates below 5%: 19 (includes District of Columbia) Edited July 14, 2020 by SoTier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 3 hours ago, SoTier said: July 14, 2020: 3,407,798 cases 136,252 deaths States with positivity rates above 25% (1): Arizona 26.46 States with positivity rates above 15% (7): Mississippi 18.88 Florida 18.73 South Carolina 17.53 Texas 16.94 Alabama 16.54 Georgia 15.77 Idaho 15.33 States with positivity rates above 5%: (25) States with positivity rates below 5%: 19 (includes District of Columbia) Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 9:07 AM, Koko78 said: Are you ***** kidding me with this bullschit? You're seriously trying to pretend that it was a surprise that the most vulnerable population to disease in general was the most vulnerable to this disease? The first US outbreak was at a nursing home in the state of Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 8 hours ago, ColeB said: The first US outbreak was at a nursing home in the state of Washington. Yes, those were the first known deaths in the U.S. They certainly didn't infect themselves so i'm not sure what your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 5 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Yes, those were the first known deaths in the U.S. They certainly didn't infect themselves so i'm not sure what your point is? Just strengthening Keko’s points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 10:32 AM, Buffalo Timmy said: You actually believe every single American who had Covid has been confirmed? The majority of people who had illness have not been tested. The CDC is estimating the death rate of those who have been infected is well below 1% and it is dropping due to better treatments 0.26% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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