B-Man Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Government Goes Too Far by John Stossel Original Article I'm "social distancing." I stay away from people. I do it voluntarily. There's a big difference between voluntary -- and force. Government is force. The media want more of that. "Ten states have no stay-at-home orders!" complains Don Lemon On CNN. "Some governors are still refusing to take action!" Fox News' host Steve Hilton agreed. "Shut things down! Everywhere. That includes Utah, Wyoming..." But wait a second. People in Utah and Wyoming already socially distanced just by living there. Why must Utah and Wyoming have the same stay-at-home rules as New York? I find it creepy how eager some people are for authorities to boss us around. .
B-Man Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) THE GREAT REOPENING: Missouri Gov. Mike Parson says most businesses will be able to open on May 4. Texas Gov. Abbott says he’s ready to reopen ‘massive amounts of businesses.’ . . Edited April 23, 2020 by B-Man 2
B-Man Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 ‘I’m going to spell it out really simple’: Insightful thread explains why some people ‘want to the country to *responsibly* and *methodically* reopen’ 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Long thread, but the Reader's Digest version is NC is on lock down until May 8th. 3
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Sure, open up, open up massage parlors, right? Can’t have people getting depressed, gotta get those massages
Bockeye Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 https://m.facebook.com/KGET17News/videos/live-local-doctor-from-accelerated-urgent-care-gives-his-take-on-covid-19-in-ker/537566680274166/?__so__=permalink&__rv__=related_videos This news conference is from yesterday. Two docs who are on the front lines using all the numbers collected to date. Respectfully answer some pointed questions from reporters. Starting to go viral. Must watch video. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 ...what happens as testing increases and asymptotics exponentially expand the denominator to dilute the death rate %?.......even if, IF the dilution rate drops below a normal flu season, what is the benefit of launching widespread criticism, albeit principally political ( A SHOCKER) going forward and what the hell is the benefit?....we currently have numbers but have a long way to go for correlative data, yet releasing purported studies exacerbates the panic mode IMO.......but....I am a layperson and not a scientist.....
3rdnlng Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Sure, open up, open up massage parlors, right? Can’t have people getting depressed, gotta get those massages You must not want to get back to work? 1
Koko78 Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: You must not want to get back to work? Bob Kraft needs his happy ending!
shoshin Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Merkel sounding sensible again. But virologists have expressed concern that the loosening could result in a surge in the rate of spreading and strain the health system, which has so far been able to cope with the outbreak. Ms. Merkel said that she stood by her decisions to impose restrictions, and to allow them to be slowly eased, but cautioned against creating a false sense of security among the population by rescinding them too swiftly. “Nobody wants to hear this, but the truth is that we are not living in the final phase of this pandemic, but at the beginning,” she said. “We are going to have to live with it for a long time.” But the chancellor also noted that the outbreak and subsequent lockdown was proving challenging. “This pandemic is an imposition on our democracy, because it restricts our existential rights and needs,” she said.
B-Man Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 BRYAN PRESTON: How About Some Compassion for the Closed? .
B-Man Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Minnesota To Start Reopening On Monday https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/04/24/go-minnesota-start-reopening-monday/ Pence To Geraldo: We Might Be Pretty Much Back To Normal By Memorial Day https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/04/24/pence-geraldo-might-pretty-much-back-normal-memorial-day/ . 2 4
Boatdrinks Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Just now, B-Man said: Minnesota To Start Reopening On Monday https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/04/24/go-minnesota-start-reopening-monday/ Pence To Geraldo: We Might Be Pretty Much Back To Normal By Memorial Day https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/04/24/pence-geraldo-might-pretty-much-back-normal-memorial-day/ . Hopefully we will be. Cuomo will fight it tooth and nail, of course. He’s about to roll out his new plan “ 500 days to bend the slowdown of the curve’s peak” complete with visuals reassuring us how short the lockdown is compared to the Crusades. 3
Chef Jim Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 I think we need to change the title of this thread to: There Should be a Dialog in Getting the PPP Knuckleheads Back to Work Geesh. 3
Magox Posted April 24, 2020 Author Posted April 24, 2020 Came across a fact based opinion article today. The data is in, stop the panic - end the total isolation Data set 1 Quote In New York City, an epicenter of the pandemic with more than one-third of all U.S. deaths, the rate of death for people 18 to 45 years old is 0.01 percent, or 11 per 100,000 in the population. On the other hand, people aged 75 and over have a death rate 80 times that. For people under 18 years old, the rate of death is zero per 100,000. Of all fatal cases in New York state, two-thirds were in patients over 70 years of age; more than 95 percent were over 50 years of age; and about 90 percent of all fatal cases had an underlying illness. Of 6,570 confirmed COVID-19 deaths fully investigated for underlying conditions to date, 6,520, or 99.2 percent, had an underlying illness. If you do not already have an underlying chronic condition, your chances of dying are small, regardless of age. And young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19. Data set 2 Quote We can learn about hospital utilization from data from New York City, the hotbed of COVID-19 with more than 34,600 hospitalizations to date. For those under 18 years of age, hospitalization from the virus is 0.01 percent per 100,000 people; for those 18 to 44 years old, hospitalization is 0.1 percent per 100,000. Even for people ages 65 to 74, only 1.7 percent were hospitalized. Of 4,103 confirmed COVID-19 patients with symptoms bad enough to seek medical care, Dr. Leora Horwitz of NYU Medical Center concluded "age is far and away the strongest risk factor for hospitalization." The data is showing that the targeted social distancing measures is the way to move forward. 5
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence repeatedly told Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp that they approved of his aggressive plan to allow businesses to reopen, just a day before Trump pulled an about-face and publicly bashed the plan, according to two administration officials. The green light from Pence and Trump came in separate private conversations with the Republican governor both before Kemp announced his plan to ease coronavirus restrictions and after it was unveiled on Monday, the officials said. Trump’s sudden shift came only after top health advisers reviewed the plan more closely and persuaded the president that Kemp was risking further spread of the virus by moving too quickly. https://apnews.com/a031d395d414ffa655fdc65e6760d6a0 ?
RochesterRob Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 42 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Hopefully we will be. Cuomo will fight it tooth and nail, of course. He’s about to roll out his new plan “ 500 days to bend the slowdown of the curve’s peak” complete with visuals reassuring us how short the lockdown is compared to the Crusades. Between Cuomo's sound bites and what little I hear from a relative in a county health department (can't say which one) I am expecting that there will be a shutdown again towards the end of October. Cuomo will up the wattage on his push for mail in voting. 1
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