YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Good to see them add this - should help in-game decision making Edited March 4, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 It’s just a smart thing to have someone at the organization keeping tabs on best practices for game management, as Shaw said in a post, it is getting the multitude of little things right that can win you games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Marc Lubick = Ernie Adams 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 With all the money spent on NFL teams, it makes sense to have an entry-level coach responsible for clock management, situational awareness (go for one or two after a TD), etc. Every detail matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Good now I know who to yell about if McDermott's little run of successful challenges at the end of the season was luck and he returns to losing them all again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Good to see them add this - should help in-game decision making 8 hours ago, WhoTom said: With all the money spent on NFL teams, it makes sense to have an entry-level coach responsible for clock management, situational awareness (go for one or two after a TD), etc. Every detail matters. Not sure how this helps. Also, entry level employees shouldn't be "responsible for clock management". Yikes. If an OC and HC can't decide, after of decades of NFL experience, when to call a TO, when to go for 2, etc., then how will an assistant position coach help them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Now all they have to do is add an Offensive Playcaller and take those responsibilities away from Daboll. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Not sure how this helps. Also, entry level employees shouldn't be "responsible for clock management". Yikes. If an OC and HC can't decide, after of decades of NFL experience, when to call a TO, when to go for 2, etc., then how will an assistant position coach help them? It's not that the coaches shouldn't/don't know this stuff, it's that in the middle of the game they should be focused on other things. Maybe they do have a good working knowledge of it and they can make the right call, but maybe they don't and just need a voice in their headset to say "hey this is a good time to go for it" or "Hey it sounds weird but the best clock strategy right now is to call a timeout because X/Y/Z" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Or, “Don’t throw the red flag. He was out of bounds.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, JM57 said: It's not that the coaches shouldn't/don't know this stuff, it's that in the middle of the game they should be focused on other things. Maybe they do have a good working knowledge of it and they can make the right call, but maybe they don't and just need a voice in their headset to say "hey this is a good time to go for it" or "Hey it sounds weird but the best clock strategy right now is to call a timeout because X/Y/Z" On game day, the HC is being paid to focus on this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Not sure how this helps. Also, entry level employees shouldn't be "responsible for clock management". Yikes. If an OC and HC can't decide, after of decades of NFL experience, when to call a TO, when to go for 2, etc., then how will an assistant position coach help them? I wouldn't expect he'd be making the decisions and I doubt you do either. Giving the HC/OC/DC a verbal poke in the ribs? Sure. Be ready with options based on statistics? Sure More than that? No. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Not sure how this helps. Also, entry level employees shouldn't be "responsible for clock management". Yikes. If an OC and HC can't decide, after of decades of NFL experience, when to call a TO, when to go for 2, etc., then how will an assistant position coach help them? Most teams have an extensive analytics department now. Doug Pederson is a person who rode this wave to a SB a couple of years ago. The analytics aspect, all of the numbers involved, and percentages for all of these situations are crunched by the "computers folks" to help the decision making process. Software. Sometimes things are still done off of feel and instinct, but most times they are based off of these percentages. I'm sure this is a lot of what Marc will be involved in, the implementation of strategies based off of such numbers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Not sure how this helps. Also, entry level employees shouldn't be "responsible for clock management". Yikes. If an OC and HC can't decide, after of decades of NFL experience, when to call a TO, when to go for 2, etc., then how will an assistant position coach help them? That is like saying a CEO don´t need nobody to handle him information to make the right decision, of course the CEO (HC in this case) is responsible for takeing action, but the better equipt he is to make that decision will translate in better call on game day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 hours ago, JM57 said: It's not that the coaches shouldn't/don't know this stuff, it's that in the middle of the game they should be focused on other things. Maybe they do have a good working knowledge of it and they can make the right call, but maybe they don't and just need a voice in their headset to say "hey this is a good time to go for it" or "Hey it sounds weird but the best clock strategy right now is to call a timeout because X/Y/Z" What is this assistant position coach basing his advice on? Months of NFL experience? How many other OC/HC combos have had to hire a decision specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I should know who Marc Lubick is, but I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: What is this assistant position coach basing his advice on? Months of NFL experience? How many other OC/HC combos have had to hire a decision specialist Some of that was listed in up thread posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Antonio said: That is like saying a CEO don´t need nobody to handle him information to make the right decision, of course the CEO (HC in this case) is responsible for takeing action, but the better equipt he is to make that decision will translate in better call on game day. The Bills CEO already has booths full of seasoned Offensive and Defensive coaches who study the same data as this kid would have access to. I’m just not clear how he would be telling them real time info that they should not already know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: The Bills CEO already has booths full of seasoned Offensive and Defensive coaches who study the same data as this kid would have access to. I’m just not clear how he would be telling them real time info that they should not already know Maybe just maybe it is a means to centralize that type of info so the HC can more easily do his homework. You know, the constant improvement thing, Wouldn’t that be a good idea? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Maybe just maybe it is a means to centralize that type of info so the HC can more easily do his homework. You know, the constant improvement thing, Wouldn’t that be a good idea? Constant improvement is a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Not sure how this helps. Also, entry level employees shouldn't be "responsible for clock management". Yikes. If an OC and HC can't decide, after of decades of NFL experience, when to call a TO, when to go for 2, etc., then how will an assistant position coach help them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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