sabrecrazed Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Even if all that is true Stone knowingly broke the law when he could've just invoked his fifth amendment rights or told the truth to Congress. He has nobody to blame but himself. Really? This is your response? Combined with what @Cinga mentions above, you are ok with all of it? What the hell is wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, sabrecrazed said: Really? This is your response? Combined with what @Cinga mentions above, you are ok with all of it? What the hell is wrong with you? Stone has really crappy lawyers then if some internet board sports poster knew something in the legal process they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrecrazed Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Stone has really crappy lawyers then if some internet board sports poster knew something in the legal process they didn't. Really crappy judge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 All I will say is that if the judge and jury head are partisan hacks in a case anywhere else in this country, the case would get thrown out.............. but since it’s #orangemanbad constituent Roger Stone, he will be getting a re-trial with an electric chair execution waiting at the end of the trial. While it’s pretty easy to be no fan of Roger Stone, those watching this case around the globe have to be laughing their azzes off at this whole process. Just because Stone comes as a smug prick doesn’t mean he deserves an execution (long jail sentence). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 18 hours ago, Cinga said: This entire Stone sentence and the entire discussion here ignores one very basic problem to the whole process. That is the very beginning of the entire investigation was started under false pretense, and dare I say, ILLEGALLY! We know now that even the very first FISA warrant that began this whole mess was obtained under false testimony. Now... I was a law school dropout so maybe one of our better lawyers here can add to this or maybe correct me, but from what I remember, any evidence of testimony obtained under illegal circumstances is not admissible in court. So shouldn't any charges brought about against anyone during an illegal investigation be likewise inadmissible? Stone was only called to testify because of the Mueller investigation right? And now that we know that investigation was totally bogus? Stone wasn't prosecuted because of the FISA abuses. He was prosecuted because he lied under oath to Congress. How he got there to testify isn't relevant, the act of lying under oath is. However, with that said, it's pretty clear he wasn't given a fair trial if the forebitch of the jury is a partisan hack who lied to get on the jury panel. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Koko78 said: Stone wasn't prosecuted because of the FISA abuses. He was prosecuted because he lied under oath to Congress. How he got there to testify isn't relevant, the act of lying under oath is. However, with that said, it's pretty clear he wasn't given a fair trial if the forebitch of the jury is a partisan hack who lied to get on the jury panel. But isn't it also that he lied to Congress during their investigation into Russia collusion brought about by the FISA abuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, Cinga said: But isn't it also that he lied to Congress during their investigation into Russia collusion brought about by the FISA abuse? Doesn't matter what brought about the inquiry - the crime is giving the false statements under oath. As my boss likes to say, "how can you trust a government that can lie to you, but will throw you in prison if you lie to them?" 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Stone stoned himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 16 hours ago, Koko78 said: Stone wasn't prosecuted because of the FISA abuses. He was prosecuted because he lied under oath to Congress. How he got there to testify isn't relevant, the act of lying under oath is. However, with that said, it's pretty clear he wasn't given a fair trial if the forebitch of the jury is a partisan hack who lied to get on the jury panel. One juror doesn’t decide the case. And this juror is allowed to hold political views, this is still America. You guys think only Republicans should Judge people, that’s so arrogant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: One juror doesn’t decide the case. And this juror is allowed to hold political views, this is still America. You guys think only Republicans should Judge people, that’s so arrogant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Foxx said: Nice argument...Trump style logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: One juror doesn’t decide the case. You're a ***** idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Another thing that the common folk will ask about this is............ Why is Roger Stone going to jail for lying about something that’s a total lie (Russian collusion delusion)? Since when is being an unlikable dick with NO criminal record tantamount to a prison sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, Koko78 said: You're a ***** idiot. No, actually I’m just right. What are you so pissed about? You should be happy, the communist is winning the Dem nomination. Four more years for your criminal prez. Stop acting like a Trump U graduate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Do you even know how juries work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Koko78 said: Do you even know how juries work? Nine of them get to vote, right? Not one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 23 hours ago, Koko78 said: Doesn't matter what brought about the inquiry - the crime is giving the false statements under oath. As my boss likes to say, "how can you trust a government that can lie to you, but will throw you in prison if you lie to them?" I like your boss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: She's a bloviating hack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 why the need to have it behind closed doors? https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1232111609973178369 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Foxx said: why the need to have it behind closed doors? Especially since he has a right to public hearings - specifically so the government can't hide schiff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Foxx said: why the need to have it behind closed doors? https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1232111609973178369 They are probably just having cocktails and a good time. Edited February 25, 2020 by Albwan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Especially since he has a right to public hearings - specifically so the government can't hide schiff. Let's see if the judge puts out a gag order to the participants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Let's see if the judge puts out a gag order to the participants. Wouldn't surprise me if she did. This judge is increasingly acting fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 thread. not, "that Ginsberg"...... https://twitter.com/joshgerstein/status/1232403493136236544 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 thread. https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1232405036350738433 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 Still guilty? Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Just now, Tiberius said: Still guilty? Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Foxx said: Wtf is that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Long thread 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Wtf is that one? Borg assimilation, duh. Edited February 25, 2020 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/23/2020 at 12:02 PM, njbuff said: Another thing that the common folk will ask about this is............ Why is Roger Stone going to jail for lying about something that’s a total lie (Russian collusion delusion)? Since when is being an unlikable dick with NO criminal record tantamount to a prison sentence? It will help morons like the author of this post to keep the russia - mueller narrative up their sleeve to bring up when they have nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Albwan said: It will help morons like the author of this post to keep the russia - mueller narrative up their sleeve to bring up when they have nothing else. The whole thing is just nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, njbuff said: The whole thing is just nuts. ...perhaps a judge trying to save face?......could first step have been lowering the prison sentence?......need Counselor KOKO 78 on this one......aren't opposing counsels responsible for vetting prospective jurors?.....I've been on juries and the potential judge had zero input.......OR.....am I wrong??..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...perhaps a judge trying to save face?......could first step have been lowering the prison sentence?......need Counselor KOKO 78 on this one......aren't opposing counsels responsible for vetting prospective jurors?.....I've been on juries and the potential judge had zero input.......OR.....am I wrong??..... I would say that I should just leave all of this to the legal experts, but the system is politically corrupt nowadays that we can't trust them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...perhaps a judge trying to save face?......could first step have been lowering the prison sentence?......need Counselor KOKO 78 on this one......aren't opposing counsels responsible for vetting prospective jurors?.....I've been on juries and the potential judge had zero input.......OR.....am I wrong??..... Not sure how involved the judge is in federal jury trials, though I do know it's tougher to toss a juror than a state-level trial. However, trying to go through the social media history of well over a dozen prospective jurors, in the span of a couple minutes, is virtually impossible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Not sure how involved the judge is in federal jury trials, though I do know it's tougher to toss a juror than a state-level trial. However, trying to go through the social media history of well over a dozen prospective jurors, in the span of a couple minutes, is virtually impossible. ...so a double standard as in Federal vs State level?....how shocking...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 More Top Stories BREAKING NEWS Roger Stone retrial request denied as judge rejects claims jury forewoman was biased The ruling came after President Trump issued public statements stoking controversy over his confidant’s case by attacking the integrity of the judge, jurors, federal prosecutors and the judicial system. By Matt Zapotosky and Spencer S. Hsu 14 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Stone was denied a new trial. Can he appeal? He's scheduled to report in 14 days (as they let out murderers due to COVID-19). Will Trump pardon him if he cannot appeal? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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