The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[dpberr]

On 8/2/2021 at 11:30 PM, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

They wear masks better there I guess.  

 

Maybe they got those N95s because I was told today your cloth mask is useless.   

 

I'm sure I've beaten this to death but Sweden likely has Europe's longest and most complete mandatory Vitamin D food fortification program in Europe, and has for a decade.  It's in everything - milk, oils, butters, sundries.  The population's risk of deficiency and extreme deficiency is likely substantially lower than say...the UK that's getting broadsided with cases.

 

 

 

 

[Unforgiven]

The biggest group of dopes are the leftist useful idiots.

The rest of us know everything happening is all a big lie.

[Chef Jim]

On 8/6/2021 at 11:45 AM, dpberr said:

 

I'm sure I've beaten this to death but Sweden likely has Europe's longest and most complete mandatory Vitamin D food fortification program in Europe, and has for a decade.  It's in everything - milk, oils, butters, sundries.  The population's risk of deficiency and extreme deficiency is likely substantially lower than say...the UK that's getting broadsided with cases.

 

 

 

 

I didn’t know this.  I know my doctor had been pushing vitamin D on me for awhile.  I’ve been loading up in it for a few years.  He actually recently told me to cut back. LOL

[The Frankish Reich]

10 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

The biggest group of dopes are the leftist useful idiots.

The rest of us know everything happening is all a big lie.

I'm not an expert like some guy named Jack Posobiec, but those sure look like OUTDOOR photos to me ...

[Doc]

On 8/3/2021 at 2:53 PM, Governor said:

Oh dear.

 

Joey's failing.  Remember "the buck stops..."

[Chef Jim]

33 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I'm not an expert like some guy named Jack Posobiec, but those sure look like OUTDOOR photos to me ...

You may have misses the tent?  And speaking of the tent. I’ve read it was 500 people or so invited. Why have a tent to hold a few thousand?  And can we get a real source of funds for the purchase of that property?  🤔

[The Frankish Reich]

8 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

You may have misses the tent?  And speaking of the tent. I’ve read it was 500 people or so invited. Why have a tent to hold a few thousand?  And can we get a real source of funds for the purchase of that property?  🤔

I dunno, but geez, could it be this?

 

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/3/2/14779892/barack-michelle-obama-65-million-book-deal-penguin-random-house

 

EDIT: and this - https://www.chicagotribune.com/real-estate/elite-street/ct-re-1205-elite-street-obamas-20191205-tpd3s54jenffrjyc7ucr3ef53a-story.html

 

I recommend this new thing they call the google. You can find out a lot of answers! Like a couple that just got $65 million can afford a $12 million house. 

Edited August 8, 2021 by The Frankish Reich

[SoCal Deek]

4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

You may have misses the tent?  And speaking of the tent. I’ve read it was 500 people or so invited. Why have a tent to hold a few thousand?  And can we get a real source of funds for the purchase of that property?  🤔

Is he done fundamentally transforming the country yet? Or is finished now that he got HIS mansion on the water?  Doesn’t take a genius to know the answer!

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I dunno, but geez, could it be this?

 

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/3/2/14779892/barack-michelle-obama-65-million-book-deal-penguin-random-house

Well good for them.   Politics pays off.  Good “work” if you can get it. 

[The Frankish Reich]

10 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Well good for them.   Politics pays off.  Good “work” if you can get it. 

If they were planning to run for any kind of office again, or get appointed to the Supreme Court, etc., I would have lots and lots of questions about this kind of deal. I also think it's unseemly in general. Serving in public office shouldn't come with the expectation of great wealth when your done. That means $500,000 speaking engagements, exorbitant book deals (but remember, the total compensation isn't known until the books sold are counted; that's why huge advances are suspect), lobbying contracts, etc., etc.

 

What appropriately post-Presidential things should you do to make a living beyond that very nice pension? Well, Barack could have returned to teaching at U. Chicago. Written those boring book on foreign policy that Nixon and Carter kept pushing out. Lots of ways to have a very, very comfortable living without the bloated book and speaking fees. I'd love to see the USA return to that dignified idea of the post-presidency; ain't gonna happen.

 

Unfortunately there's not much we can do about these post-Presidency deals except that ineffectual stuff like asking questions in a debate: "do you pledge not to engage in lobbying after your term ends?"

Edited August 8, 2021 by The Frankish Reich

[All_Pro_Bills]

3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

If they were planning to run for any kind of office again, or get appointed to the Supreme Court, etc., I would have lots and lots of questions about this kind of deal. I also think it's unseemly in general. Serving in public office shouldn't come with the expectation of great wealth when your done. That means $500,000 speaking engagements, exorbitant book deals (but remember, the total compensation isn't known until the books sold are counted; that's why huge advances are suspect), lobbying contracts, etc., etc. Unfortunately there's not much we can do about these post-Presidency deals except that ineffectual stuff like asking questions in a debate: "do you pledge not to engage in lobbying after your term ends?"

Those big speaking fees and book deals are just payback for favors done while in office.  But what I really can't wrap my head around is the concept that there are that many people interested in reading or hearing a self-serving version of events written or told by these former elected and unelected officials irrespective of their political affiliations.  

[Chef Jim]

23 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

If they were planning to run for any kind of office again, or get appointed to the Supreme Court, etc., I would have lots and lots of questions about this kind of deal. I also think it's unseemly in general. Serving in public office shouldn't come with the expectation of great wealth when your done. That means $500,000 speaking engagements, exorbitant book deals (but remember, the total compensation isn't known until the books sold are counted; that's why huge advances are suspect), lobbying contracts, etc., etc.

 

What appropriately post-Presidential things should you do to make a living beyond that very nice pension? Well, Barack could have returned to teaching at U. Chicago. Written those boring book on foreign policy that Nixon and Carter kept pushing out. Lots of ways to have a very, very comfortable living without the bloated book and speaking fees. I'd love to see the USA return to that dignified idea of the post-presidency; ain't gonna happen.

 

Unfortunately there's not much we can do about these post-Presidency deals except that ineffectual stuff like asking questions in a debate: "do you pledge not to engage in lobbying after your term ends?"

I have no problem with people making money. Lots of money.  Especially after they leave public service.  I do however have issues with people like Pelosi and Feinstein reaping in piles of money WHILE in office. Public service was never designed to be a life long career.  Why do you think so many of them continue to do it well into their 80’s?  It’s easy money. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

31 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I dunno, but geez, could it be this?

 

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/3/2/14779892/barack-michelle-obama-65-million-book-deal-penguin-random-house

 

EDIT: and this - https://www.chicagotribune.com/real-estate/elite-street/ct-re-1205-elite-street-obamas-20191205-tpd3s54jenffrjyc7ucr3ef53a-story.html

 

I recommend this new thing they call the google. You can find out a lot of answers! Like a couple that just got $65 million can afford a $12 million house. 

Frankish, you’re a good poster but I have to take issue with your defense of “outdoor” partying.  
 

First, as @Chef Jim astutely noted, hundreds of people milling about in a structure designed to keep the elements out hardly qualifies as “outdoors”.  That’s, in fact, the whole idea of the tent.  On the level the elites play on, they tend to be exceptionally sturdy, well lit, secure and heated/air conditioned as necessary. 
 

That issue aside, on this level, you have people traveling from all across the country (and likely internationally), from yellow zones, red zones, hot zones with exposure to everything that entails.    Additionally, while traveling, much of the interaction would be of an indoor nature—airports, rest rooms, restaurants, limos all along the way.   While absolutely possible there was 100% compliance with CDC mask and distancing guidance, given what we see from the photos here and the generally tendency for power brokers to ignore their own directives, it’s seems unlikely. 
 

Finally, the question comes up about the optics of this sick rager.   According to the experts, we’re dealing with COVID and the delta schmelt variety, we’re at mission critical status and one of the leading liberals in the world opts to have a maskless, distantless, climate &$@&ing hoedown at his massive palatial estate, exposing Vineyard residents to COVID and Delta schmelt infections just because he had a birthday?  
 

The reality to me is it’s another reason to question the National narrative on Covid and Delta schmelt my.   See, I don’t think Barrack, Kerry, JZ and Beyoncé, and the remorseful bully Chrissy Tiegen have any desire to become infected or infect their loved ones.  I assume Barrack and his event coordinators have access to state of the art intel and decided to push forward secure in the knowledge that all is well. 
 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

38 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Frankish, you’re a good poster but I have to take issue with your defense of “outdoor” partying.  
 

First, as @Chef Jim astutely noted, hundreds of people milling about in a structure designed to keep the elements out hardly qualifies as “outdoors”.  That’s, in fact, the whole idea of the tent.  On the level the elites play on, they tend to be exceptionally sturdy, well lit, secure and heated/air conditioned as necessary. 
 

That issue aside, on this level, you have people traveling from all across the country (and likely internationally), from yellow zones, red zones, hot zones with exposure to everything that entails.    Additionally, while traveling, much of the interaction would be of an indoor nature—airports, rest rooms, restaurants, limos all along the way.   While absolutely possible there was 100% compliance with CDC mask and distancing guidance, given what we see from the photos here and the generally tendency for power brokers to ignore their own directives, it’s seems unlikely. 
 

Finally, the question comes up about the optics of this sick rager.   According to the experts, we’re dealing with COVID and the delta schmelt variety, we’re at mission critical status and one of the leading liberals in the world opts to have a maskless, distantless, climate &$@&ing hoedown at his massive palatial estate, exposing Vineyard residents to COVID and Delta schmelt infections just because he had a birthday?  
 

The reality to me is it’s another reason to question the National narrative on Covid and Delta schmelt my.   See, I don’t think Barrack, Kerry, JZ and Beyoncé, and the remorseful bully Chrissy Tiegen have any desire to become infected or infect their loved ones.  I assume Barrack and his event coordinators have access to state of the art intel and decided to push forward secure in the knowledge that all is well. 
 

 

Fair point. It was bad optics (particularly in it's initial version), but I'll give him a pass on HAVING the party. That's because I want to see full outdoor stadiums for the World Series, for NFL Sundays, for outdoor music festivals, etc. I am perhaps not as doctrinaire as you thought. There's always risk balancing; to me, the science doesn't support banning outdoor events or requiring masks outside. Tents are "leaky" and air turnover rates are high, even for those posh garden party things. Plus as I understand it, everyone was required to be vaccinated.

As for travel to mass events: this doesn't strike me as that different from a big wedding, which I don't want to see banned. There's a cost-benefit calculation, which is why I support businesses and to some extent governments mandating vaccines.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dpberr]

3 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

I didn’t know this.  I know my doctor had been pushing vitamin D on me for awhile.  I’ve been loading up in it for a few years.  He actually recently told me to cut back. LOL

You're about to be stunned....for about a decade, Europe has been trying to make the severity of its flu season less by fortifying its food supply with Vitamin D.  Some countries have really gotten to it, others haven't.  

 

I think there's a lot of data points flying around out in the air about a person's Vitamin D levels and how it correlates to COVID severity.  Why nobody is trying to really understand that relationship beats me, It'd seem like a simple way for people to keep themselves from not getting sick. 

[BillStime]

47 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Abortions, too?

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Hypocrisy continues.