Buffalo716 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: He deserves a raise, @GunnerBill is 1000000% correct on him and Hyde disguising coverage and the sum of the parts has been top notch, I'm just not sure how much cap I put into the safeties. We have the room to give a him a raise and structure it so it hits next offseason and limits the upfront hit this year, but from a production standpoint alone he is replaceable at a cheaper contract. I would look to spend my premium cap space on QB, WR, CB, Edge, Pass Catching TE over a zone safety. We could reasonably fit him in though without affecting our ability in the next couple seasons to sign whoever we want. He deserves a raise but nothing crazy.. McDermott is a defensive back guru is 100% the reason poyer has broke out in the league McDermott has him in the right spots to succeed. Poyer on any other team is honestly probably a jag, maybe slightly better 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, stony said: $10 she has none. Not taking that bet, ? , I likes me some bush, it’s odd that women will have their pubs yanked out, as painful as it is, and do it over and over, trying desperately to look prepubescent as a style statement, kinda F’ed up if you ask me.. Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: He deserves a raise but nothing crazy.. McDermott is a defensive back guru is 100% the reason poyer has broke out in the league McDermott has him in the right spots to succeed. Poyer on any other team is honestly probably a jag, maybe slightly better It looks like there is good value in RD2 & 3 for a replacement this year I think we can get WR, RT and S in RDs, 1, 2 and 3 with a little bit of movement. Sign Hooper and Yannick and call it a day. He isn't a Minkah, Derwin, Earl or Harrison Smith so I'm not sure I pay a premium for him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, Reed83HOF said: It looks like there is good value in RD2 & 3 for a replacement this year I think we can get WR, RT and S in RDs, 1, 2 and 3 with a little bit of movement. Sign Hooper and Yannick and call it a day. He isn't a Minkah, Derwin, Earl or Harrison Smith so I'm not sure I pay a premium for him... He isn't anything like any of those guys.. he is good safety in the league who has found his scheme fit .. which most players don't find in the league So he has benefitted immensely from it I think drafting a kid to groom would be smart. And the 3rd round would probably land a good football player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He deserves a raise but nothing crazy.. McDermott is a defensive back guru is 100% the reason poyer has broke out in the league McDermott has him in the right spots to succeed. Poyer on any other team is honestly probably a jag, maybe slightly better Possibly. I do think you are a little harsh on him. But also as I say while I have no doubt McDermott could coach up the next guy replicating the chemistry with Hyde is near impossible. I agree thought. There is a price at which you have to let him walk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Possibly. I do think you are a little harsh on him. But also as I say while I have no doubt McDermott could coach up the next guy replicating the chemistry with Hyde is near impossible. I agree thought. There is a price at which you have to let him walk. The chemistry between them is the only thing that would suck losing which would take a few seasons to grow But you can definitely draft a bigger , stronger , faster guy to groom.. while trying to negotiate with poyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, Buffalo716 said: The chemistry between them is the only thing that would suck losing which would take a few seasons to grow But you can definitely draft a bigger , stronger , faster guy to groom.. while trying to negotiate with poyer They could. The other incredible thing with those two is how healthy they have stayed. How many games have they missed between them in 3 years? Can't be more than a couple. So I really have no feel for how our current depth would hold up having to play for a longer period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: They could. The other incredible thing with those two is how healthy they have stayed. How many games have they missed between them in 3 years? Can't be more than a couple. So I really have no feel for how our current depth would hold up having to play for a longer period. The Bills new medical equipment and top facilities seem to keep our players healthier than years past. Safety is also a relatively healthy position compared to RB or LBr or Lineman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: The chemistry between them is the only thing that would suck losing which would take a few seasons to grow But you can definitely draft a bigger , stronger , faster guy to groom.. while trying to negotiate with poyer Poyer has the unfortunate habit of getting trucked into the end zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, GoBills808 said: Poyer has the unfortunate habit of getting trucked into the end zone He has an unfortunate habit of being trucked for 3 years Great coverage guy , not a great tackler... Routinely gets dragged 5 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They could. The other incredible thing with those two is how healthy they have stayed. How many games have they missed between them in 3 years? Can't be more than a couple. So I really have no feel for how our current depth would hold up having to play for a longer period. You could easily give him a 3-4 yr deal and now hurt yourself at all and honestly I am fine either way. The sum of the parts is outstanding and it may not even be worth messing with, but I can understand if they did. If I had to chose between Yannick or Hooper over him I would. I'm not sure he is worth $9-10 million/season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 43 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Not taking that bet, ? , I likes me some bush, it’s odd that women will have their pubs yanked out, as painful as it is, and do it over and over, trying desperately to look prepubescent as a style statement, kinda F’ed up if you ask me.. Go Bills!!! I think my post was bushwhacked! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Careful Ms. Bush, some high end safety talent in this draft. Simmons (Clem), Delpit(LSU), McKinney(Tide), Wade(OSU), Davis(Cal) And in the later rounds for some nostalgia Antoine Winfield Jr(,Minn) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 And its officially the offseason lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Or common sense. Poyer will be 29 at the start of next season. You dont give a 30 year old safety a big contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, noacls said: Careful Ms. Bush, some high end safety talent in this draft. Simmons (Clem), Delpit(LSU), McKinney(Tide), Wade(OSU), Davis(Cal) And in the later rounds for some nostalgia Antoine Winfield Jr(,Minn) Did Winfield declare? He’s a corner though Wade is returning to Ohio state (also a corner) Edited January 6, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Did Winfield declare? He’s a corner though Wade is returning to Ohio state (also a corner) Winfield is listed at safety on the draft network . He is a redshirt sophomore, so not sure. Threw him on list because big fan of his dad. As to Wade did not see that, Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, noacls said: Winfield is listed at safety on the draft network . He is a redshirt sophomore, so not sure. Threw him on list because big fan of his dad. As to Wade did not see that, Thank You He might be a safety in the NFL. I don’t think he’s very fast. (Winfield) Edited January 6, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 41 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He might be a safety in the NFL. I don’t think he’s very fast. (Winfield) no he is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Where is the Jaquan love coming from? He played 53 defensive snaps in 2019. Team likes him and played well in regular season finale. He will have shot in training camp to take #3 safety spot next year. If he plays well you have potential replacement. Can’t pay everyone and sometimes tough decisions need to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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