Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Arguably the most difficult position group to evaluate due to the changes the game has seen over time. They left off Terrell Owens in favor of Marvin Harrison. TO was a much more talented WR than Harrison. TO had far worse QBs to play with. Harrison played entire career in a dome. TO almost single handedly beat the Patriots on one leg with a puking McNabb and choking Andy Reid. I don't recall a single great playoff moment for Harrison. Absolute travesty. I'd have put Calvin Johnson in over Harrison and Warfield as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I believe TO's persona and the antics have worked against him all of his career, despite the fact of his talent. Even when elected to the HOF he chose to speak at his Alma Mater instead of the enshrinement ceremony. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Arguably the most difficult position group to evaluate due to the changes the game has seen over time. They left off Terrell Owens in favor of Marvin Harrison. TO was a much more talented WR than Harrison. TO had far worse QBs to play with. Harrison played entire career in a dome. TO almost single handedly beat the Patriots on one leg with a puking McNabb and choking Andy Reid. I don't recall a single great playoff moment for Harrison. Absolute travesty. I'd have put Calvin Johnson in over Harrison and Warfield as well. Harrison getting love over TO drives me nuts. He went in the HOF before him. They played in the same era so it’s easy to compare them. TO was the far superior player. TO is also the way better person. So before someone goes onto the rant about “TO the teammate” never forget “Marvin Harrison the shooter.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I appreciated that they put some of the older era receivers like Warfield, etc., but the addition of Harrison and Moss over Tim Brown and T.O. is suspect. Owens and Brown put up better numbers than Moss. Harrison is not even a good guy, so it confused me. Maybe Moss is on so that Belecheat could talk about him as his player during the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I think Marvin Harrison might have been one of the 3 best WRs I have ever seen. He is not the one that needs to be in question. No doubt TO needs to be on this list but take Paul Warfield off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 What number was Reed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, leonbus23 said: I appreciated that they put some of the older era receivers like Warfield, etc., but the addition of Harrison and Moss over Tim Brown and T.O. is suspect. Owens and Brown put up better numbers than Moss. Harrison is not even a good guy, so it confused me. Maybe Moss is on so that Belecheat could talk about him as his player during the show. Moss deserves to be there....not saying that TO doesn't, but Moss is not what should be considered a bad choice....IMO of course.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 the whole list is a joke they put a bunch of guys from the 50's and 60's over current athletes lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Just now, Tesla03 said: the whole list is a joke they put a bunch of guys from the 50's and 60's over current athletes lol. up to 1978 anything was allowed on WRs, you could put a man in a wheelchair without a penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Usually I have a difficult time with the really old guys like Dutch Clark at RB. However, hard to leave Don Hutson off, first really great receiver. I think they did a good job, but I would have taken off Largent (fine player) and added Calvin Johnson. Paul Warfield is a no brainer from his era. Marvin Harrison was terrific as well with the single season 143 catches record. Lance Alworth was incredible glad he made it. Could care less about Owens, I think the guys a loser and wouldn't want him on my team. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Where is the dang list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: Where is the dang list? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001089888/article/nfl-100-alltime-team-wide-receivers-announced 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) It's a decent list. It's clear they are judging players on how dominant they were within the context of their era, which is the right approach. Yes, TO could run circles around Paul Warfield, but Moss and Harrison were the better receivers during Owens' time while Warfield dominated his. The only modern-era player who wasn't included that could have been is Calvin Johnson, unfortunately he just didn't have the longevity or team success to be considered. But when he played, he was one of the most dominant football players of all time, regardless of position. Edited December 21, 2019 by skibum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001089888/article/nfl-100-alltime-team-wide-receivers-announced Thanks, Megatron has to be on this easily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Good read, nothing that should cause my day to be ruined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Surprised to see Calvin Johnson left off. I don’t think TO belongs ahead of anyone who made it. He was an amazing route runner and got open all the time. But he dropped a lot of easy catches. Harrison and Largent had much better hands than TO. I don’t have a problem w any of the old guys who made it. All those guys were truly great football players who made a huge impact during their era. Good list overall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: the whole list is a joke they put a bunch of guys from the 50's and 60's over current athletes lol. You have a case of what's called "recency bias" 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said: Surprised to see Calvin Johnson left off. I don’t think TO belongs ahead of anyone who made it. He was an amazing route runner and got open all the time. But he dropped a lot of easy catches. Harrison and Largent had much better hands than TO. I don’t have a problem w any of the old guys who made it. All those guys were truly great football players who made a huge impact during their era. Good list overall I don't really care if you have 10 drops if you also have 15 TD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 46 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: the whole list is a joke they put a bunch of guys from the 50's and 60's over current athletes lol. So did you really think they were going to pick a 100th anniversary team and only put in the guys from the last 20 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Personally, I wish they had broken them up into eras. Maybe something like pre 1950 is the first era, two platoon football and the african american players starting around then. Pick the 2 best guys or something, then 1950-1969 the AFL and TV era where modern ball was formed ,pick 2-3 guys. 1970-1989, pick 3 or 4 guys, 1990-onward pick or 4 or 5 guys. Something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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