Buffalo_Gal Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 No bias but the FISA application was improper. {head scratch} I know the IG is a rules guy more than anything else. It is interesting what he looked at, commented on, and recommended. His conclusions seem geared toward changing FBI rules more than anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: No bias but the FISA application was improper. {head scratch} I know the IG is a rules guy more than anything else. It is interesting what he looked at, commented on, and recommended. His conclusions seem geared toward changing FBI rules more than anything. i think he just clarified... no bias in the predicate of the opening of Crossfire Hurricane. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, BillsFanNC said: And you think all those things and then some to this day, which is your right. But.... if you're ok with what happened to Carter Page as a way to get to both candidate and President Trump...then as Lindsey Graham also said..."then you hate Trump way too much" According to the report (and Horowitz testimony) none what happened to Carter Page had a thing to do with getting to Trump, though. Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: His conclusions seem geared toward changing FBI rules more than anything. (aka his job as IG) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Dem questions and Horowitz answers seem almost rehearsed. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Horowitz was squishy about bias concerning the FISA and attorney's action (murky was the word he used). He keeps saying "the opening" and "trusted foreign government" (why Durham and Barr were off to Italy, Australia, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Good Lord! Patrick Leahy... hope the AED is handy. He might need it soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Grassley - asking about Obama knowing about the counterintelligence investigation. Horowitz does not know the answer to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) FBI had no evidence to support the first or second application (even though they flipped the basis) for a FISA on Carter Page. Edited December 11, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Kamala's seat is not empty anymore. Joe Biden walked in and wonders why he wasn't notified of the hearing like all of the other senators were. He then mumbled something about Watergate. he went to the wrong state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Horowitz: A number of people at the FBI knew that the Steele dossier was paid for by the Clinton campaign/DNC. We don't know how high up they knew. Mr. Ohr was passing information on from the Justice Dept to his (colleges, friends, I forget which word he used) at the FBI. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) Leahy going on trying to disparage Barr for investigating in Europe. Edited December 11, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 recess until 1 pm Est Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Dem strategy seems to be to discredit AG Barr. Not sure how well that will work out for them in the end, but I think they're painted into a corner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) at least to me, Horowitz is coming across as even handed. he is not really pontificating but rather just responding to questions about what is actually in his report. every single time he is being prompted to make an opine with regard to having a possible bias, in one direction or another, he is refuting that push and simply referring back to the report. to me, that is important and shows he was being as neutral as is possible in the investigation. of course, this could change as it moves along but this is where i am at right now. Edited December 11, 2019 by Foxx 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Foxx said: at least to me, Horowitz is coming across as even handed. he is not really pontificating but rather just responding to questions about what is actually in his report. every single time he is being prompted to make an opine with regard to having a possible bias, in one direction or another, he is refuting that push and simply referring back to the report. to me, that is important and shows he was being as neutral as is possible in the investigation. of course, this could change as it moves along but this is where i am at right now. Horowitz did not have the legal ability to interview or even speak to the bad actors. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I'm watching the CBS Youtube feed. Catherine Herridge is opining right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Dem strategy seems to be to discredit AG Barr. Not sure how well that will work out for them in the end, but I think they're painted into a corner. They've been trying to do that for a while now, calling him a Trump stooge etc... 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: undermine the Steele Dossier? Is she serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Cinga said: They've been trying to do that for a while now, calling him a Trump stooge etc... undermine the Steele Dossier? Is she serious? The ***** tweeted that on Feb 24th of 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Back... well, a couple of them are. The rest may be taking a long lunch. ?♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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