Buffalo_Gal Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Awww come on now, you can't expect the FBI to do any investigation. It isn't like its in their name or anything. Facts-smacts. BELIEVE US!! is their motto. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, njbuff said: Someone explain to me how one report has two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT conclusions around here? Who’s lying and who is telling the truth? Those who are reading only the media coverage are getting it wrong. Those who only read the executive summary are getting it wrong. That's the normal NPC crowd who RACED down here to share talking points rather than read the material for themselves. The meat of the report is DAMNING to the FBI, DOJ and their FISA process -- and I'm only about 1/2 way through. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 ...so let's quickly review if I understand correctly... 1. Horowitz comes out with a luke warm, non-finger pointing report pretty much as expected; thus as a Dem and Obama appointee, it will be considered eloquent, accurate and "gospel". 2. Bull Durham-with his investigation ongoing, yet despite being assigned several high profile assignments by former AG Holder, his findings will without a doubt be labeled a "political hack job". 3. AG Barr-see #2; add in a "Bush appointee" and of course, add in the dreaded "C" word.....media characterized Barr as "a staunch conservative who rarely hesitates to put his hard line views into action." ...pretty clear cut as to how the media leans, but how about "the court of public opinion"?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Those who are reading only the media coverage are getting it wrong. Those who only read the executive summary are getting it wrong. That's the normal NPC crowd who RACED down here to share talking points rather than read the material for themselves. The meat of the report is DAMNING to the FBI, DOJ and their FISA process -- and I'm only about 1/2 way through. James Comey sure seems vindicated if you read his tweets on the subject. So there’s that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Those who are reading only the media coverage are getting it wrong. Those who only read the executive summary are getting it wrong. That's the normal NPC crowd who RACED down here to share talking points rather than read the material for themselves. The meat of the report is DAMNING to the FBI, DOJ and their FISA process -- and I'm only about 1/2 way through. Kinda reminds me of this: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, njbuff said: James Comey sure seems vindicated if you read his tweets on the subject. So there’s that. And he was immediately dunked on by everyone. As he should be. This report vilified him. The spin off report just about him also vilified him. He has been exposed as a liar and dirty cop. Full stop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: And he was immediately dunked on by everyone. As he should be. This report vilified him. The spin off report just about him also vilified him. He has been exposed as a liar and dirty cop. Full stop. But, will he be charged? That is the $64,000 question. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: But, will he be charged? That is the $64,000 question. True indeed. Ball is in Barr's court. Money is long against it, but I'm still quite confident it's coming. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: <br /> That guy is out of a job in 3...2...1... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 It was a "fusion team" as they're called. (no relation to Fusion GPS) But now we see why it was constructed the way it was: to avoid oversight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: True indeed. Ball is in Barr's court. Money is long against it, but I'm still quite confident it's coming. Seriously, Comey is out banging on about being the King of the Dipshyts of the Keystone Cops. The guy was fired, last seen wandering about the forest pondering the many questions of life, oversaw an FBI that couldn't get it's thumb out of it's own a$$ when viewed in it's most positive light, and now has NBC news accusing it of being just another slap dick institution. The leadership was largely purged, and Comey's thrilled with the outcome. Honest to God the guy is delusional. He's the lead designer on the Edsel project and again, that is when considered in the most positive light possible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, John Adams said: My slippers and red cardigan are comfy. ....comfy on the bidet I assume............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snafu Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Gary Busey said: "Comey will be indicted by fall 2019" - Derrrrrrrrrranged Moron You're not a liar, though, you were just wrong. It is still autumn, 2019. Call him wrong later this month if it turns out he is wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 ..Horowitz=vanilla as expected?...yes or no?............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 43 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: But, will he be charged? That is the $64,000 question. Nope. Where's my $? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warren Zevon Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..Horowitz=vanilla as expected?...yes or no?............ Vanilla plus. It what was expected and did more to help Democrats than Republicans. In my opinion Durham commenting on an open investigation to benefit the president shows he's in the AG's (At this point Barr, not Giuliani, is Trump's new personal attorney) pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 45 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: But, will he be charged? That is the $64,000 question. ....doubt it...this is the proverbial "....let be friends....kiss and make up...errors on both sides" expected garbage.....''we'll do better" refrain....... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....comfy on the bidet I assume............ It was a "neighborhood" discussion. You wouldn't get it. 11 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..Horowitz=vanilla as expected?...yes or no?............ That was an early reaction. The new response is that it's damning in the details and will lead to mass convictions all the way to the top baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Lisa Page seems vindicated too. So, who’s next to tell us all that they are vindicated and laugh in their enemies faces while doing so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: But, will he be charged? That is the $64,000 question. I wouldn't hold your breath there. Comey was a mess but I'd be shocked if there's a conviction in his future. Ohr might have more to worry about. Edited December 9, 2019 by John Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, John Adams said: I wouldn't hold your breath there. Comey was a mess but I'd be shocked if there's a conviction in his future. Ohr might have more to worry about. Why would you hold her breath? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, njbuff said: Why would you hold her breath? ? LMAO... a blue bag over his head would be met with ZERO resistance I'm sure.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, njbuff said: Why would you hold her breath? ? He’s full of it. He doesn’t know dick about this topic because he spent three years mocking it rather than reading and thinking for himself. Comey was referred for criminal prosecution already by the OIG. That happened earlier this year, the DOJ declined because of ongoing investigations. Meaning Barr and Durham. The same two men who felt strongly enough today to release joint statements undercutting the OIG’s finding of no bias. JA doesn’t want to talk about that though. Because it would show he was wrong. Again. And he’s too much of a coward to do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 It does look like anyone on the higher scale is going to skate after this whole thing is said and done. But, of course, I really don’t know what the hell im talking about either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, njbuff said: It does look like anyone on the higher scale is going to skate after this whole thing is said and done. But, of course, I really don’t know what the hell im talking about either. The entire echelon of higher ups involved in this report have all been fired, demoted, or “retired”. Over 24. No one is skating. Those saying people are skating are either intentionally lying to you or ignorant. 45 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..Horowitz=vanilla as expected?...yes or no?............ No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: True indeed. Ball is in Barr's court. Money is long against it, but I'm still quite confident it's coming. @transplantbillsfan needs to watch this as i believe he would consider it, 'a respectable news source'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The entire echelon of higher ups involved in this report have all been fired, demoted, or “retired”. Over 24. No one is skating. Those saying people are skating are either intentionally lying to you or ignorant. You would know better than me. People lying and being ignorant about this report? Quite shocking really. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Foxx said: @transplantbillsfan needs to watch this as i believe he would consider it, 'a respectable news source'. He’s too busy cowering and hiding from direct questions while he waits for his next NPC download. 54 minutes ago, snafu said: It is still autumn, 2019. Call him wrong later this month if it turns out he is wrong. It’s a bull#### statement I never made. He can’t link it — it did not happen. He’s a liar. Hasn’t he proven that enough times for people down here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, njbuff said: Lisa Page seems vindicated too. So, who’s next to tell us all that they are vindicated and laugh in their enemies faces while doing so? Whaaaaa? I think you may want to read this report. It indicates she did not start this (people have surmised that was John Brennan) but I am not sure how anyone can say she was "vindicated" by this report. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Whaaaaa? I think you may want to read this report. It indicates she did not start this (people have surmised that was John Brennan) but I am not sure how anyone can say she was "vindicated" by this report. Lisa Page said it herself, on twitter, of course. I’m too stupid myself to vindicate anyone. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, njbuff said: Lisa Page said it herself, on twitter, of course. I’m too stupid myself to vindicate anyone. ? OH! Of course! She and Comey are toots absolved of any wrongdoing. They said so on Twitter. How stupid of me not to realize that was all it took.? Edited December 9, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: OH! Of course! She and Comey are toots absolved of any wrongdoing. They said so on Twitter. How stupid of me not to realize that was all it took.? It’s a Twitter world and everything said on there is true. Didn’t you know that? - oh for Heaven’s sake, the balls on these people. Didn’t they ever hear of just staying quiet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, njbuff said: - oh for Heaven’s sake, the balls on these people. Didn’t they ever hear of just staying quiet? Most have proved the adage that an attorney who represents himself has a fool for a client (sorta). I've said for a while the only "smart" one of the bunch during this debacle has been Tony Podesta who closed down his firm and has remained silent during this whole debacle. (The justice department ended their investigation into him this past September.) Edited December 9, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) Nora O’Donnell just told me there was no political bias in the Trump/Russia investigation, so there you have it! Trump colluded with Russia! ? Edited December 9, 2019 by dubs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) "I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff," Durham also said. "However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department. Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S." ? ? Edited December 10, 2019 by dubs 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Read the whole thread: 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Whaaaaa? I think you may want to read this report. It indicates she did not start this (people have surmised that was John Brennan) but I am not sure how anyone can say she was "vindicated" by this report. Same way Trump said he was vindicated by Mueller report? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Ann Althouse notes a flipflop in the way the IG report is being spun: “Exonerated? I remember when ‘exonerated’ had a strong meaning — back when the Mueller report was said not to have exonerated Trump because it did not prove Trump’s innocence but only failed to prove guilt. Now, to fail to prove guilt is to exonerate?” It’s whatever the narrative needs it to be at the moment. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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